Elon Musk Sues Open AI and Sam Altman for Breach of Founding Contract

[btarunr]

Elon Musk in his individual capacity has sued Sam Altman, Gregory Brockman, Open AI and its affiliate companies, of breach of founding contract, and a deviation from its founding goal to be a non-profit tasked with the development of AI toward the benefit of humanity. This lawsuit comes in the wake of Open AI's relationship with Microsoft, which Musk says compromises its founding contract. Musk alleges breach of contract, breach of fiduciary duty, and unfair business practices against Open AI, and demands that the company revert to being open-source with all its technology, and function as a non-profit.

Musk also requests an injunction to prevent Open AI and the other defendants from profiting off Open AI technology. In particular, Musk alleges that GPT-4 isn't open-source, claiming that only Open AI and Microsoft know its inner workings, and Microsoft stands to monetize GPT-4 "for a fortune." Microsoft, interestingly, was not named in the lawsuit as a defendant. Elon Musk sat on the original board of Open AI until his departure in 2018, is said to be a key sponsor of AI acceleration hardware used in the pioneering work done by Open AI.



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[theouto]

Elon is speaking sense here, I actually agree with him.

Hoping he wins the case.

 

[ChuzzWuzza]

Elon is speaking sense here, I actually agree with him.

Hoping he wins the case.

I will second that how can you call it 'open' AI if it ain't

 

[Iain Saturn]

Absolutely agree with Elon.

He helped fund that monster - but they quickly changed course and abandoned the company's original mission to develop artificial intelligence for the benefit of humanity not profit.

 

[bug]

Taken at face value, the claims seems to stand.
As for Microsoft not being mentioned... why would they be? This is about OpenAI doing an about-face.

Maybe this could be settled by renaming to OpenishAI?

 

[dgianstefani]

Taken at face value, the claims seems to stand.
As for Microsoft not being mentioned... why would they be? This is about OpenAI doing an about-face.

Maybe this could be settled by renaming to OpenishAI?

It's not open until the public can inspect the code to see if there's hidden parameters, like what Google has been doing recently with their AI kerfuffle.

 

[Easy Rhino]

I really hope people educate themselves on AI so they realize just how harmful it can be. People think that for some reason these advanced math algorithms won't be used for evil.

 

[Fishymachine]

Hopefully Elon wins and this becomes as foundational as the Ford vs Dodge lawsuit

 

[Eternit]

Taken at face value, the claims seems to stand.
As for Microsoft not being mentioned... why would they be? This is about OpenAI doing an about-face.

Maybe this could be settled by renaming to OpenishAI?

It’s either open or it isn’t. If you are using open source libraries in closed source project the project is closed source not openish. I’m not saying everything must be opened. But if you are funds for open source foundation then it must have its source open.

I really hope people educate themselves on AI so they realize just how harmful it can be. People think that for some reason these advanced math algorithms won't be used for evil.

It is a tool like a knife. People probably know how dangerous it can be in wrong hands. This needs international and national laws governing its usage.

 

[Kohl Baas]

Taken at face value, the claims seems to stand.
As for Microsoft not being mentioned... why would they be? This is about OpenAI doing an about-face.

Maybe this could be settled by renaming to OpenishAI?

The problem is not about the semantics of the name but the alleged breach of the founding contract. Even if they rename it MonetAIze, that contract is still the same.

 

[AnarchoPrimitiv]

I think this SHOULD be done, but I'm skeptical of Musk's reasons...granted, I'm not privy to his reasoning, but based on everything else he seems to believe....I probably won't agree.

That said, while on the topic of dangerous AI, has everybody seen this 7 minute film that was created by a professor of Computer Science, Staurt Russel,to warn of AI being combined with weapons? It's crazy

 

[bug]

The problem is not about the semantics of the name but the alleged breach of the founding contract. Even if they rename it MonetAIze, that contract is still the same.

I was being sarcastic. Geez, people...

 

[tomo82]

basically: I don't want to pay alot of money to put the leading AI in my Teslas.

 

[bug]

basically: I don't want to pay alot of money to put the leading AI in my Teslas.

You wouldn't want to pay either, if you sponsored an entity to develop an open solution. Shareholders wouldn't let it slip, if he just coughed up the $$$.

 

[Kohl Baas]

I was being sarcastic. Geez, people...

You haven't used sarcasm mark, irony punctuation an emote or simply "/s" and I'm not a psychic at any distance...

 

[ADB1979]

I really hope people educate themselves on AI so they realize just how harmful it can be. People think that for some reason these advanced math algorithms won't be used for evil.

Exactly.

I will also add that AI as it is right now is NOT "Artificial Intelligence" it's still running a program created by Man and really should be referred to as ML, "Machine Learning" as what it does is read a heap of information, process it in various ways.

As we have seen from all of the problems with "AI" chatbots etc is that they are only as good as the programming, and very importantly the information that is fed into it, and by only feeding in certain information you can direct it to only output certain answers. All of these "AI" chatbots lean very heavily to the political Left, the answer is simple, that is the information they have been fed, and right now, that is the danger that everyone should be aware of, and is something that everyone can understand so they are better prepared to understand the many other dangers of "AI" that may not be as simple to understand as my above example/description (and no, I am no expert on this), but have always been familiar with the phrase "Garbage In, Garbage Out", and that perfectly describes everything we see with with "AI" chatbots today.

 

[ZoneDymo]

reminds me a bit of the google "dont be evil" moto

 

[bug]

You haven't used sarcasm mark, irony punctuation an emote or simply "/s" and I'm not a psychic at any distance...

I thought "openish" was a dead giveaway. Apparently not.

 

[ADB1979]

That said, while on the topic of dangerous AI, has everybody seen this 7 minute film that was created by a professor of Computer Science, Staurt Russel,to warn of AI being combined with weapons? It's crazy

I havent but will watch it, thanks for the tip. "AI" (Machine Learning) is already being tested in the military and will be a primary upgrade for existing F35 Fighter Jets with the "Block 3 upgrades" and "Block 4" newly built Fighter Jets, as well as every new Fighter / Bomber / UAV, and is also going under water and for Surface Ships, and will filter it's way down to land Command and Control, and then individual land vehicles and eventually individual troops until the Humans are removed.

We are already well on our way to the opening scenes of Terminator 2, just without the actual Intelligence, thankfully.!

 

[Philaphlous]

I don't think Musk is suing to get more money...lol

 

[ADB1979]

reminds me a bit of the google "dont be evil" moto

They kept the motto, but amended it years ago by removing the "don't"...

 

[ty_ger]

Pot calling the kettle black? One of the biggest tech fraudsters currently relevant complaining about someone else not keeping their word.

Musk is broke. This seems like a money grab.

 

[dgianstefani]

I havent but will watch it, thanks for the tip. "AI" (Machine Learning) is already being tested in the military and will be a primary upgrade for existing F35 Fighter Jets with the "Block 3 upgrades" and "Block 4" newly built Fighter Jets, as well as every new Fighter / Bomber / UAV, and is also going under water and for Surface Ships, and will filter it's way down to land Command and Control, and then individual land vehicles and eventually individual troops until the Humans are removed.

We are already well on our way to the opening scenes of Terminator 2, just without the actual Intelligence, thankfully.!

Most of the military AI is supportive AI, e.g. collates and presents information, or pre-empts pilot needs, providing targetting data etc ahead of time. AFAIK there are no pure AI systems that don't have a human decision maker in the mix, hopefully this doesn't change.

However it's a Pandora's box situation, once the technology is created, it will be used. We could never go back from nukes (those who think we could disarm are unbearably naive), and AI in weapons systems will be a similar jump I think, especially considering the current competency crisis and the lack of interest in joining the military by youth.

Pot calling the kettle black? One of the biggest tech fraudsters currently relevant complaining about someone else not keeping their word.

Doesn't make it untrue.

 

[ty_ger]

Doesn't make it untrue.

I have zero empathy.

 

[Eternit]

Most of the military AI is supportive AI, e.g. collates and presents information, or pre-empts pilot needs, providing targetting data etc ahead of time. AFAIK there are no pure AI systems that don't have a human decision maker in the mix, hopefully this doesn't change.

However it's a Pandora's box situation, once the technology is created, it will be used. We could never go back from nukes (those who think we could disarm are unbearably naive), and AI in weapons systems will be a similar jump I think, especially considering the current competency crisis and the lack of interest in joining the military by youth.


Doesn't make it untrue.

If the pilot is making decision based on information provided by AI then AI can cause some harm by filtering data. Let’s say it will filter out information about civilians being in the same building as enemy soldiers.