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you smell that? something is cooking. Oh its just the 14900KS...

Joke a side. Thats one power hungry and litterly hot chip for not to mention totally inefficient cpu. And it aint that much faster than 14900K. Unless you want the bragging rights, this cpu seems only like a waste of money all around.
 
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I wonder if there would be much of an improvement with the 14900KS delided in that cooling fluid used for servers?
 
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Well, some little memory tweaks to the 7800X3D and it'll only extend the gaming performance advantage over the 400+W 118'C 14900KS at around 1/4th the power draw and a $20 cooler.

Will also let your GPU boost further, since you aren't dumping an extra 150-200W into the system. Especially true for custom watercooled builds.

There's...no real point of this 13900K's third refresh.
 
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Something tells me it's not going to be the last of it's kind.
 
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All I can say about this Intel CPU, is.....

Spider Man Lol GIF


And ofc, the Intel boys being this with their computers in the background.....

 
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The Intel Core i9-14900KS reaches impressive clock frequencies up to 6.2 GHz, which yields remarkable performance in applications and gaming. However, this comes at the cost of serious power consumption, especially if you go beyond stock, where we saw over 500 W during testing.
Would you clarify how you test WebXPRT4? In one single or in any browser? All other settings are iso-?
7800X3D scores above 310. Even Zen3 CPUs get over 300. A bit confused by this graph on TPU.
 
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Last big, bad, monolithic CPU probably.
The 13900/14900K isn't even a large chip, it's 250mm^2, pretty mediocre. Those that think this CPU has such bad power consumption because it's monolithic are in for a big surprise when Intel will switch to chiplets which consume even more power due to their nature.

The issues these chips have are not related to their monolithic designs.
 
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I would be very interested on this higher end chips to know what the life expectancy is with allowing changing the threshold (And the CPU hitting) 115c. I just would be curious since its not by default.

As for overclocking, I will be really curious with some of the MSI boards and seeing other trying to push max turbo on some of the cores to 6.4 and higher. I really want to see 6.5ghz on 2 cores for some reason :laugh: .

Now as for the power consumption, I mean we knew it was gonna be around 500 so not a shock but man thats hard to swallow. Paired with an overclocked 4090, I just imagine building a system and thinking a 1000watt power supply is not enough :roll:.
 
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joke of the year already made..

can't wait how hungry will be the 15900KSS
 
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Congrats Intel, you have effectively made the worst CPU I've ever seen in my 20 years of hobby PC building. I didn't think there was any way to make such an unimaginably bad CPU in 2024 but you have done it.

Edit: okay I'm seeing at a 65W cap this CPU actually has decent efficiency (especially given the ancient Intel 7 lithography used), this is how it should come by default with OC available as an option. Oh well.

Look at the R24 MT score. If someone needs that much MT without a threadripper, and can cool it, then this is the chip. So not exactly the worst is it.
 
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Im very tempted to delid my unit, since its a none-retail packaging unmarked sample. I'm trying to find reasons to make it entertaining enough.
 
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500W peak power... For a CPU. Intel came a long way compared to AMD's Bulldozer, lol.
 
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Extreme chip, extreme MT performance, extreme ST performance, extreme power use, where is the problem.

This is the last mega monolithic CPU probably ever, so what'sa wrong with going out with a bang fzzzzz pop?

I bet they still sell a stocking full of 'em though
 
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Better just wait for next gen CPUs to mitigate CPU bottleneck of the 5090. Raise you hand if you use air conditioning in the winter while gaming.

Update look Intel updates APO support for 12 games


 
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Look at the R24 MT score. If someone needs that much MT without a threadripper, and can cool it, then this is the chip. So not exactly the worst is it.
If you NEED that MT performance, why don't you have a ThreadRipper?
NEEDING that much performance implies that time=money for your renders and even a 24-core Threadripper will pay for itself in very little time.

IMO, CPU rendering is something that's easily distributed because it's only animations that really take time. The time it takes to render a single frame is never so long that your workflow is being delayed by your render previews - but the time it takes to render 5 minutes of 60fps 4K video can be hours or even days on a single processor. For a long time now, we've been farming CPU renders out to a dedicated renderfarm consisting of dozens of cheap boxen that have the most cost-effective CPU in them. Most of them are 5950X/64GB boxen still, though we have a couple of 8-boxen render nodes with Zen3 ThreadRippers for extremely heavy 50 megapixel final static renders that go on A0 posters and the like.

For the $10,000 asking price of a 96-core Threadripper 7995WX, likely to go into a $2500 platform, you can buy 10+ complete systems with 16-core 7950X processors in them. Yes, you have to pay for 10+ motherboards, RAM, cases, and power supplies but the rendering software usually grants you 10 render node licenses per 1 workstation seat at zero or minimal cost, your distributed rendering management is free (eg Backburner) or affordable (Deadline/Nuke etc), and the farm is more granular. If you can only afford three ThreadRipper systems then only 3 people can render jobs simultaneously, whilst you could have, say, 40x 7950X systems in a renderfarm for the same money and allocate any number of boxes to anywhere from 1 to 40 people at the same time, dynamically, with spare capacity going back to pool as it finishes work for those additional people.

There's no right or wrong way to CPU render, but looking at costs, and looking at the number of tools in the market (both first-party and third-party) to facilitate cloud rendering and local distributed rendering, it's clear that there's a huge market for CPU rendering to lots of smaller, less powerful systems.

As for simulations and ML/LLM stuff - the Threadrippers are definitely worth it for that, solely for the additional RAM channels, but they're rarely used by us for that since in my primary office we run virtualised servers like most people do, and specifically high-availability where there's spare capacity to account for uninterrupted serving in the event of downtime, hypervisor updates, hardware failure etc. When you Server pool has several hundred cores and terabytes of RAM, you can afford to allocate the unused reserve to compute VMs that users can book time on. In the event of an exceedingly rare failure that requires that reserve, the compute VMs get suspended and the servers failover to the reserve hypervisors. Once the server emergency is resolved, you can un-suspend the compute VMs and have them pick up where they left off. So far, in the last 4+ years of operating like this with two different AEC companies, this suspending user VMs has happened 0 times unexpectedly, and only occured as part of planned, scheduled maintenance or testing the failovers.
 
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For a minute I thought I was reading an Extreme Edition Netburst CPU review ;)
 
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Extreme chip, extreme MT performance, extreme ST performance, extreme power use, where is the problem.

This is the last mega monolithic CPU probably ever, so what'sa wrong with going out with a bang fzzzzz pop?

I bet they still sell a stocking full of 'em though

There's probably not too many units available because it's heavily binned processor, but they'll all sell, alright. The 14900KS will probably always have people after it though, because it'll be the top of the top for LGA 1700.

If you NEED that MT performance, why don't you have a ThreadRipper?

Because the super ethical, consumer friendly company AMD, who always has their fans' interests at heart, is unopposed in the HEDT market and currently charges whatever it wants for the Ryzen Threadripper. The cheapest consumer-grade TR is currently $1,500.
 
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Extreme chip, extreme MT performance, extreme ST performance, extreme power use, where is the problem.

This is the last mega monolithic CPU probably ever, so what'sa wrong with going out with a bang fzzzzz pop?

I bet they still sell a stocking full of 'em though
There is somebody in the UK called Ian (8Pack) Parry who is a professional overclocker and he says the answer to the power and heat problems of the 14900KS is to overclock it.

A little bit more than that, specifically

"...(for gaming) 8Pack tunes the (14900KS) CPU using a Thermal Velocity Boost overclock, improving on stock speeds substantially. A static overclock of 5.9GHz is set with a TVB +2 ratio, allowing for consistent boosts of around 6.1GHz in gaming. The E cores are also tuned to 4.3GHz.

Improvements are also made on limitations of the stock CPUs behaviour by reducing power consumption, which leads to lower temperatures all while offering huge gains in performance. This is achieved by disabling hyperthreading on the p cores and turning off half of the e cores, allowing for up to 20% improvement in CPU bound gaming workloads such as high FPS esport titles."

See his YouTube video Fixed with Overclocking?? Intel Core i9 14900KS Review with 8Pack.
 
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There is somebody in the UK called Ian (8Pack) Parry who claims to be the world's #1 overclocker and he says the answer to the power and heat problems of the 14900KS is to overclock it.

A little bit more than that, specifically

"...8Pack tunes the (14900KS) CPU using a Thermal Velocity Boost overclock, improving on stock speeds substantially. A static overclock of 5.9GHz is set with a TVB +2 ratio, allowing for consistent boosts of around 6.1GHz in gaming. The E cores are also tuned to 4.3GHz.

Improvements are also made on limitations of the stock CPUs behaviour by reducing power consumption, which leads to lower temperatures all while offering huge gains in performance. This is achieved by disabling hyperthreading on the p cores and turning off half of the e cores, allowing for up to 20% improvement in CPU bound gaming workloads such as high FPS esport titles."

See his YouTube video Fixed with Overclocking?? Intel Core i9 14900KS Review with 8Pack.

Disabling HT does have side effects on raptor lake that can cause stuttering in some games, mainly with cache-sensitive games (Far Cries, Cyberpunk, etc.)... If he ran 1% lows and more benches he would have picked it up.

I'm a big fan of disabling HT in general, but in some instances it's not great.
 
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There is somebody in the UK called Ian (8Pack) Parry who is a professional overclocker and he says the answer to the power and heat problems of the 14900KS is to overclock it.

A little bit more than that, specifically

"...(for gaming) 8Pack tunes the (14900KS) CPU using a Thermal Velocity Boost overclock, improving on stock speeds substantially. A static overclock of 5.9GHz is set with a TVB +2 ratio, allowing for consistent boosts of around 6.1GHz in gaming. The E cores are also tuned to 4.3GHz.

Improvements are also made on limitations of the stock CPUs behaviour by reducing power consumption, which leads to lower temperatures all while offering huge gains in performance. This is achieved by disabling hyperthreading on the p cores and turning off half of the e cores, allowing for up to 20% improvement in CPU bound gaming workloads such as high FPS esport titles."

See his YouTube video Fixed with Overclocking?? Intel Core i9 14900KS Review with 8Pack.

Funnily, my ram is 8pack branded Team Group

There's probably not too many units available because it's heavily binned processor, but they'll all sell, alright. The 14900KS will probably always have people after it though, because it'll be the top of the top for LGA 1700.



Because the super ethical, consumer friendly company AMD, who always has their fans' interests at heart, is unopposed in the HEDT market and currently charges whatever it wants for the Ryzen Threadripper. The cheapest consumer-grade TR is currently $1,500.

Not forgetting the board you need to go with it.
 
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There's probably not too many units available because it's heavily binned processor, but they'll all sell, alright. The 14900KS will probably always have people after it though, because it'll be the top of the top for LGA 1700.



Because the super ethical, consumer friendly company AMD, who always has their fans' interests at heart, is unopposed in the HEDT market and currently charges whatever it wants for the Ryzen Threadripper. The cheapest consumer-grade TR is currently $1,500.
The Threadripper isn't typically suited for everyday consumers; instead, it caters to a select group who utilize workstations as tools to generate income rather than for gaming purposes.

For mere mortals like us, 16 cores is more than enough, and certainly much better than the era of quad-cores that were sold for the same price.
 
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