AMD Readies Ryzen 5000XT Line of Socket AM4 Processors

[btarunr]

AMD Socket AM4 platform gets yet another lease of life, as the company is planning another round of processor models for the platform. This was revealed by AMD in a meeting with its channel partners as part of the AMD Advantage Club event. The Ryzen 5000XT line of desktop Socket AM4 processors will be modeled along the Ryzen 3000XT series that formed the company's final refresh of the Ryzen 3000 "Zen 2" family before it launched the Ryzen 5000 series. The 3000XT series were criticized for being mere 100-200 MHz speed bumps that didn't offer tangible benefits over the parts they were replacing from the stack, but merely being a means for AMD to restore its presence at certain price-points. It remains to be seen what the 5000XT series looks like. In all likelihood, these will continue to be speed-bumps of the Ryzen 5000 "Vermeer" processors; but at attractive price-points. The slide revealing the 5000XT series also reveals two new SKUs—the Ryzen 7 8700F, and the Ryzen 5 8400F. Both are likely to be based on the 4 nm "Hawk Point" monolithic silicon, but with their iGPUs disabled.



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[Chaitanya]

At this point just why? Am5 CPUs have slid down in pricing(seems like CPU mining has blown up and even 7950x is back in stock at most retailers at $550 mark) and there are even decent boards at affordable prices for the new AM5 platform along with cheap DDR5 memory. For users of old AM4 platform have quite a decent line of upgrades available for both gaming and productivity use cases.

 

[Nater]

At this point just why? Am5 CPUs have slid down in pricing(seems like CPU mining has blown up and even 7950x is back in stock at most retailers at $550 mark) and there are even decent boards at affordable prices for the new AM5 platform along with cheap DDR5 memory. For users of old AM4 platform have quite a decent line of upgrades available for both gaming and productivity use cases.

Right! Can't imagine there's that many still out there on Ryzen 2000 and 3000 series. Both AM4 boards in my house already have 5800X's in them. The 5800X3D is a budget buster as an upgrade OR a new build these days.

 

[leezhiran]

At this point just why? Am5 CPUs have slid down in pricing(seems like CPU mining has blown up and even 7950x is back in stock at most retailers at $550 mark) and there are even decent boards at affordable prices for the new AM5 platform along with cheap DDR5 memory. For users of old AM4 platform have quite a decent line of upgrades available for both gaming and productivity use cases.

To get rid of defected stock I suppose.

 

[ViperXTR]

my AM4 is ready for 5800XT3D (lol)

 

[Guwapo77]

At this point just why? Am5 CPUs have slid down in pricing(seems like CPU mining has blown up and even 7950x is back in stock at most retailers at $550 mark) and there are even decent boards at affordable prices for the new AM5 platform along with cheap DDR5 memory. For users of old AM4 platform have quite a decent line of upgrades available for both gaming and productivity use cases.

Because not everyone wants to buy an entirely new platform. Now if you are after a whole new setup, by all means build an AM5. Like someone said above, if its a gaming rig only, 5800X3D or the 5600X3D are the only ways to go. If you need the higher speed, I can understand these cpus too.

 

[LabRat 891]

A-M-

 

[Keullo-e]

At this point just why?

If the price is right, why not? The current AM4 lineup is still great for budget builds or upgrading from an older CPU.

Right! Can't imagine there's that many still out there on Ryzen 2000 and 3000 series. Both AM4 boards in my house already have 5800X's in them. The 5800X3D is a budget buster as an upgrade OR a new build these days.

I upgraded from 3600 to 5800X and that was a significant upgrade already. Just didn't want to pay 50% more for the X3D as I play at 4K so the CPU is not THAT important in games.

 

[Lew Zealand]

Almost any die is functional at some reduced speed or higher voltage.

"Ship them out, all of them."

 

[Dr. Dro]

At this point just why? Am5 CPUs have slid down in pricing(seems like CPU mining has blown up and even 7950x is back in stock at most retailers at $550 mark) and there are even decent boards at affordable prices for the new AM5 platform along with cheap DDR5 memory. For users of old AM4 platform have quite a decent line of upgrades available for both gaming and productivity use cases.

Why not? Massive install base means lots of potential customers, earlier node doesn't compete with the supply chain for current generation parts and of course, another front to attack the "14th gen" Intel chips at the lower end segments, especially since Raphael doesn't support DDR4.

Besides with the sheer age of this platform, it's all calm waters from here. Pretty much all severe issues with socket AM4 have been corrected by now.

 

[Redwoodz]

I guess nobody remembers AMD always refining their existing nodes and releasing updated chips. World record DDR4 inc.

 

[JohH]

Add 100-200MHz here and there to offer a slightly better value.
I'm not sure why, though. The people tempted to buy AM4 chips in 2024 would probably be more moved by 10% price cuts.

 

[freeagent]

They just need to make a 5900X/5950X replacement, something high end that gives a surprising spank

 

[sLowEnd]

The 3200G & 3400G are still in production? If so, it's probably in the OEM space mostly. I haven't seen them stocked in DIY retail in a long time now.

 

[Keullo-e]

The 3200G & 3400G are still in production? If so, it's probably in the OEM space mostly. I haven't seen them stocked in DIY retail in a long time now.

They've most likely been entirely replaced by the 4000G and 5000G series. After all, they're just Zen+ chips and that's OLD when we have Zen4 already.

They just need to make a 5900X/5950X replacement, something high end that gives a surprising spank

There were X3D prototypes as you may already know

AMD shows off unreleased Ryzen 9 5950X3D CPU with 192MB of 3D V-Cache - VideoCardz.com

AMD showcases prototypes of unreleased Ryzen CPUs with 3D V-Cache The company has invited the team from Gamers Nexus for a tour of their secret Ryzen labs. The latest video from Gamers Nexus sheds light on AMD’s journey of returning into a competitive CPU space with the first Ryzen CPUs. It was...

videocardz.com

 

[freeagent]

They've most likely been entirely replaced by the 4000G and 5000G series. After all, they're just Zen+ chips and that's OLD when we have Zen4 already.


There were X3D prototypes as you may already know

AMD shows off unreleased Ryzen 9 5950X3D CPU with 192MB of 3D V-Cache - VideoCardz.com

AMD showcases prototypes of unreleased Ryzen CPUs with 3D V-Cache The company has invited the team from Gamers Nexus for a tour of their secret Ryzen labs. The latest video from Gamers Nexus sheds light on AMD’s journey of returning into a competitive CPU space with the first Ryzen CPUs. It was...

videocardz.com

I would only be interested in vcache chips if they can do over 5GHz

 

[A Computer Guy]

They just need to make a 5900X/5950X replacement, something high end that gives a surprising spank

A 5999x zen4 overdrive CPU for AM4 would be sweet and nostalgic and prove the cow can be milked one last time.

 

[TechLurker]

Man, I'd love a Ryzen 5950X3D, and still am holding out a bit of hope for one. Bonus if it has better efficiency while still gaming as well as the 5800X3D.

 

[A Computer Guy]

Man, I'd love a Ryzen 5950X3D, and still am holding out a bit of hope for one. Bonus if it has better efficiency while still gaming as well as the 5800X3D.

Dual x3d CCD 5950X3D would be nice for power and thermals for high thread count SFF.

 

[Keullo-e]

A 5999x zen4 overdrive CPU for AM4 would be sweet and nostalgic and prove the cow can be milked one last time.

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Did you already forget the 5 generations of Skylake?

 

[A Computer Guy]

Did you already forget the 5 generations of Skylake?

For desktop I went from Q6600 Core2Quad (from 2009) to AM4 (R5 2600 Zen+ in 2018-ish) and skipped all that.

 

[harm9963]

They just need to make a 5900X/5950X replacement, something high end that gives a surprising spank

5950XT3D ! !

 

[Guwapo77]

5950XT3D ! !

Dude if they make one of those I won't upgrade until AM6

 

[AMF]

5950xt 256MB Cache! 5ghz all core sustained boost

 

[LabRat 891]

5950xt 256MB Cache! 5ghz all core sustained boost

I laugh but, a die shrunk Zen3D uArch, *might* maybe be feasible. Their yields with both generations/platforms seem fantastic.