Ryzen 9000-series Pricing Leak Ahead of Launch

[Dristun]

People who were still holding out and are on middle-end budget better run for 7800X3D deals while they last, looks killer compared to even this slightly lower than expected 9700X price.

 

[phints]

Pricing for 9700X is very reasonable, but the problem with AMD for a gaming focused build (I do many things on my PC but want the best gaming) is they have proven these don't have enough cache to maximize gaming performance. If 9800X3D is coming next with 20% faster and more power efficiency for gaming again there is no reason to look at these right now.

 

[Tomgang]

If i was in the phase to buy new cpu, witch i am not (5600X and 5950X still deliver what i need).
And if the rumers of zen 5 3d are fully unlocked for oc. I would hands down only have my eyes on the 3D zen 5 chips. That 3D cashe has truly show how much it can gain in games compared to none 3D variants, that it is the right cpu for me.

 

[HBSound]

I doubt there will be a dual chipset mini-ITX board, since you have to squeeze in the USB4 host controller as well.
Also, Asus has already proven that a dual chipset mini-ITX board is pointless.

I got ya. I would not want to get this kind of processor, and not be able to take advantage of the extra PCI lanes over the X870.
Also, which Asus motherboard are you referring too?

 

[Tomgang]

Pricing for 9700X is very reasonable, but the problem with AMD for a gaming focused build (I do many things on my PC but want the best gaming) is they have proven these don't have enough cache to maximize gaming performance. If 9800X3D is coming next with 20% faster and more power efficiency for gaming again there is no reason to look at these right now.

I totally agree. Amd has said them self that zen 5 None 3d will be on pair or a bit under the zen 4 3D variants in fames. If you truly want a significant gaming upgrade over zen 4 3D, zen 5 3D is the way to go. Else you can just as well stay with your zen 4 3D if you all ready have such a cpu.

 

[yfn_ratchet]

Hoping this is whispers of AMD trending back to the earlier days of Zen—giving the best prices in the midrange area. Zen 4 limped pretty hard in that department next to Raptor Lake. Also also, fingers crossed they pull a Zen 3 chip-dump and come out with a 7600X3D. Even if only as a Micro Center exclusive like last time, Ryzen 5 desperately needs some V-Cache in its corner.

 

[TheLostSwede]

I got ya. I would not want to get this kind of processor, and not be able to take advantage of the extra PCI lanes over the X870.
Also, which Asus motherboard are you referring too?

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This one. Admittedly it has Thunderbolt 3/USB4 support already, but the second chipset is just for the NVMe drives.

ROG STRIX X670E-I GAMING WIFI | ROG Strix | Gaming motherboards｜ROG - Reinternal of Gamers｜ROG Global

ASUS ROG Strix X670E-I Gaming WiFi features 10 + 2 power stages, ROG Strix Hive, EZ mode PBO button, DDR5 support, PCIe® 5.0, onboard Wi-Fi 6E, two M.2 slots and M.2 Gen 5 & chipset heatsink, and two USB4® Type-C ports. It also features AI Cooling II, AI Networking, Two-Way AI Noise Cancelation...

rog.asus.com

 

[HBSound]

This one. Admittedly it has Thunderbolt 3/USB4 support already, but the second chipset is just for the NVMe drives.

ROG STRIX X670E-I GAMING WIFI | ROG Strix | Gaming motherboards｜ROG - Reinternal of Gamers｜ROG Global

ASUS ROG Strix X670E-I Gaming WiFi features 10 + 2 power stages, ROG Strix Hive, EZ mode PBO button, DDR5 support, PCIe® 5.0, onboard Wi-Fi 6E, two M.2 slots and M.2 Gen 5 & chipset heatsink, and two USB4® Type-C ports. It also features AI Cooling II, AI Networking, Two-Way AI Noise Cancelation...

rog.asus.com

That is indeed the motherboard I had in mind. It would be great to see if Asus plans to release an updated X870E-I gaming motherboard that addresses the existing issues and errors while elevating their overall performance. Personally, I have always been a fan of Asus, despite the fact that many others may not share the same sentiment. In my experience, I have never encountered any issues with an Asus motherboard.

 

[bug]

So where's the so called inflation?

"So called inflation"? Have you had a single economy course?

 

[b1k3rdude]

Edit: Probably looking at something like this: (all released before the end of the year)

9800X3D $449
9900X3D $549
9950X3D $699

But we need to wait and see how the 3d cache is configured, if its the same lame only one ccd nonses as the 7000 series then the only chip worth getting is the 9800x3d. But if the 9900x3d is across both ccd's and has the same sweetspot between gaming and productivity as my 5900x then that will be the chip to get...

 

[Totally]

Screw cpu pricing, let's see how much they and their partners are going to fleece people on motherboards. It was somewhat decent enough of them to try soften the blow by throwing out "AmD Iz PrEmIuM nOwZ" but no amount of warning or "that's just the way it is could've" prepped for that +50% to +100% slap across the face. Even when AMD were considered lesser boards vs Intel even though paid more for an equivalent Intel board you GOT MORE on the board in terms of features and connectivity. Nothing for that price increase on an AM5 board, pay the same prices for both AMD/Intel now and still get less.

 

[JustBenching]

Pricing for 9700X is very reasonable, but the problem with AMD for a gaming focused build (I do many things on my PC but want the best gaming) is they have proven these don't have enough cache to maximize gaming performance. If 9800X3D is coming next with 20% faster and more power efficiency for gaming again there is no reason to look at these right now.

What does maximize gaming performance even mean. Unless you are running a 4090 at some Uber low resolution I'm sure the 9700x will be great. If you do in fact have a 4090 you won't even be looking at 8 core chips with or without 3d cache in the first place

 

[Klemc]

What does maximize gaming performance even mean. Unless you are running a 4090 at some Uber low resolution I'm sure the 9700x will be great. If you do in fact have a 4090 you won't even be looking at 8 core chips with or without 3d cache in the first place

I read the forums this days, i found you posted a lot, then i realized you're an x3d hater, not an Intel fanboy (or perhaps, i never told that anyway), but really trully an x3d hater, or even THE x3d hater.

I'm an IA hater (no but just hardware wise, bc it's forced) ...will skip buy new PC parts anyway it was meant to be my last like i said past year, until i get old like in 15+ years..

 

[JustBenching]

I read the forums this days, i found you posted a lot, then i realized you're an x3d hater, not an Intel fanboy (or perhaps, i never told that anyway), but really trully an x3d hater, or even THE x3d hater.

I'm an IA hater (no but just hardware wise, bc it's forced) ...will skip buy new PC parts anyway it was meant to be my last like i said past year, until i get old like in 15+ years..

Nope, the 7950x 3d is amazing. I'm a low core count hater, especially for circa 400$ msrps.

 

[JohH]

People on AM5 don't need an upgrade yet. At the very least they should wait to see what X3D brings.
And those not on AM5, why not wait to see what Arrow Lake brings?

These early prices are likely to be corrected (downward) quickly.

 

[Kapone33]

People on AM5 don't need an upgrade yet. At the very least they should wait to see what X3D brings.
And those not on AM5, why not wait to see what Arrow Lake brings?

These early prices are likely to be corrected (downward) quickly.

Exactly my 7900X3D is perfect for my setup and I am not even tempted with these. 8900X3D yes man but not this stack.

 

[Klemc]

Nope, the 7950x 3d is amazing. I'm a low core count hater, especially for circa 400$ msrps.

Oh cool, but infact the amazing one is the 7800 bc it not needs Process Lasso
For my needs.

IDK what about CCD for 9000x3d, but i'm msure this gen is all about IA stuff, and even GPU will be btw.

 

[Visible Noise]

"So called inflation"? Have you had a single economy course?

Probably still lives with his parents and doesn’t have to pay for anything.

 

[Launcestonian]

People on AM5 don't need an upgrade yet. At the very least they should wait to see what X3D brings.
And those not on AM5, why not wait to see what Arrow Lake brings?

These early prices are likely to be corrected (downward) quickly.

I'm upgrading asap because of my reasons that have little do with chasing extra fps, but I don't mind the boost there anyway even without X3D.

 

[tfdsaf]

9600x needs to come down to $240 to make sense as a 6 core CPU.
The 9700x also needs to come down to $320 to make sense as a 8core CPU.
The other CPU prices are great.
At least now the 7000 series CPU's are going to be cheaper and more people can afford them.

 

[Jism]

In before the Ryzen fx 9590 anniversary edition.

Does it somehow only exist when the same fabs are used to produce nvidia GPUs?

Nvidia expensive due to the large dies it's producing. Faillure rate on those is more significant then what AMD is having their their CCD's.

 

[Minus Infinity]

9600X and 9700X are still too expensive. AMD just need to cut prices and behave well with Intel currently going wrong. Grab this chance.

Agreed, charging similar to what Intel asks for 14 cores is silly. Arrow Lake i5 6P + 8E will further decimate 9600X for what $50 more. $299 would make sense for a 9600X3D but they won't make that one.

Anyway, I'm only interested in the 9900's but definitely waiting for X3D variants.

 

[A Computer Guy]

So where's the so called inflation?

3950x MSRP $749
5950x MSRP $799
7950x MSRP $699
9950x MSRP $599

Does it somehow only exist when the same fabs are used to produce nvidia GPUs?


I would guess that they bet on people willing to overspend on Zen3 just to save on not having to upgrade mobo and RAM.

I was thinking about this some more. It is interesting how the tech parts industry has been dodging inflation.

Looking at recent Amazon pricing the 9950x MSRP makes sense considering how the 16 core parts are scaling right now.

MSRP vs. Amazon Trends (2024-07-31) casual observation
3950x__ MSRP $749 => (nonsense pricing)
5950x__ MSRP $799 => $350 Budget
7950x__ MSRP $699 => $530 Middle Tier
7950x3d MSRP $699 => $550 Middle Tier
9950x__ MSRP $599 => $600 Premium (Estimated)
9950x3d MSRP $??? => $650 (Estimated)

MSRP vs. eBay Trends (2024-07-31) casual observation excluding nonsense pricing
3950x__ MSRP $749 => $200 to 330
5950x__ MSRP $799 => $260 to 350
7950x__ MSRP $699 => $430 to 530
7950x3d MSRP $699 => $450 to 550

Finding a good deal on ebay looks to save about $50 to $100 below current pricing.

 

[Iain Saturn]

I also feel I should point out that the 9000 series is being released at lower TDP, lower price and higher performance. When was the last time that happened?

+ 1

 

[kondamin]

Initial pricing and a week later real prices will be introduced like with nvidia cards.
+200$ for the higher end ones