And George is right that the into from analysts on WS is generally BS and superficial. Very few of these analysts actually know wtf the industry is like. None of them saw AMD coming till it smacked Intel, too big to fail they said. I bought into AMD when it was $2 bux and change. I saw the writing on the wall with Mantle... and many others on forums like this saw it coming too. But Wallstreet, sheesh the ignored the facts, Intel is a juggernaut, ain't never going to happen. Some of these clowns were still pushing INTC on CNBS last month.