AMD Debuts Radeon RX 9070 XT and RX 9070 Powered by RDNA 4, and FSR 4

[AusWolf]

Looks like RX 9070 XT is faster than RTX 5070 if we not count stupid frame generation!

9070XT Price rumor

AMD Reference card: 479 dollar
AIB: ~549 dollar

If that is true, then give me the AMD reference and I'll call it a day. F*k fake frames and 12 GB cards for 500!

Thats the narrative when its about AMD.

The havent said a word yet they are already judged, found guilty and trashed accordingly.

Rinse and repeat.

And people wonder why they seems to be abandoning the market.

I don't think they're in danger of leaving the market as long as nearly every console uses an AMD APU.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

I don't think they're in danger of leaving the market as long as nearly every console uses an AMD APU.

I know, I meant the dGPU market, since no matter what they do, they are always the bad guys in this neck of the woods.

Consoles, handhelds and stupid AI markets are better for their pockets, at the moment.

 

[Kapone33]

The World is upside down. The narrative has created a scenario where people refuse to see the truth and use things like the Switch to defend their position. The truth is that is there is not only a hardware spec that AMD dominates in and Nvidia is nowhere to be seen. Then you take the fact that the Steam Deck OS is about to be ported everywhere and what do you get? An OS that is created and refined for Ryzen/Radeon. Then you combine that with what Windows 11 has become and you will understand why Nvidia has done 2 things.

1. Tried drastically to improve their Linux drivers.
2. Announced that they are making their own APU.

I have even seen comments like raster is dead and AI is going to replace raster. In the real world none of those features work before raster.

As much as people are still trying to defend Nvidia's pricing the best selling GPU on Newegg.ca is still the 6600. There was a time when the 6700XT was the recommended choice but when the 7900 series launched they called the 7900XT the 6800XT and when the 7800XT launched they called that the 6700XT replacement. Distributors then priced these cards as high as they could but when the As Rock 7900XT was $839 Canadian it sold out pretty fast.

Then you have AMD software. On more than one occasion someone has made a comment about what AMD does not have that a screenshot solves. Then there is City Skylines 2. I currently have a population of 1,100,000. The Game supports DLSS but no FSR. Ok let's go into AMD software and turn on Hyper Rx with 1 click. What is this a 1,100,000 city and the map scrolling is smooth and vehicles are smooth. What is that the FPS are 50 to 70 at 4K? While DLSS4 is in 75 Games I can do that with my Entire library.

None of what I have said above is conjecture and you can grab a copy of City Skylines 2 and try for yourself. In fact I am going to ask on the 7000 user's thread what Games people struggle with. That is the only Game that needs Hyper RX in my library that I play regularly though.

I honestly feel that the narrative is what made AMD do what it did. We don't have any numbers though so everything we wax on about is just our thoughts on what these cards can do.

 

[BlaezaLite]

Things just got SPICY!

Faster than a 4080 Super in Raster and a few points off the 7900XTX in RT? Sign me up!

 

[Kapone33]

Things just got SPICY!

Faster than a 4080 Super in Raster and a few points off the 7900XTX in RT? Sign me up!

If that is true and it is the price of a 7700XT my Daughter will be getting a GPU for her Birthday.

I know, I meant the dGPU market, since no matter what they do, they are always the bad guys in this neck of the woods.

Consoles, handhelds and stupid AI markets are better for their pockets, at the moment.

On PC World there is one of the presenters that loves handhelds but is loathe to talk about AMD DGPUs. He was so excited for the Claw.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

On PC World there is one of the presenters that loves handhelds but is loathe to talk about AMD DGPUs. He was so excited for the Claw.

Thats the sad reality that we are living.

People on positions of power”power” pushing their bias to those looking for purchasing guidance.

Thats the main reason why Ngreedia is enjoying an almost absolute monopoly in pc gaming.

 

[Kapone33]

Thats the sad reality that we are living.

People on positions of power”power” pushing their bias to those looking for purchasing guidance.

Thats the main reason why Ngreedia is enjoying an almost absolute monopoly in pc gaming.

It started getting really bad after the HUB incident where he made a positive review of an AMD GPU and went on vacation in the Indian Ocean. While he was flyfishing off a boat Nvidia informed his channel that they were cutting sponsorship. He came back mid vacation. The first video was a rant but the very next Nvidia card he reviewed had RT and DLSS and strong points to purchase.

Here on TPU a review will come out for a GPU. The AMD variant will be near the top but people will tell you that AMD cannot do it. Like when Intel praised their 580 vs the 4060 and 7600. They even made VRAM a focus and the reviewers agreed, until we found that they don't work good with budget CPUs. Meanwhile the 7600XT is waiting for a price drop to become the budget card to get with 16 GB of VRAM.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

It started getting really bad after the HUB incident where he made a positive review of an AMD GPU and went on vacation in the Indian Ocean. While he was flyfishing off a boat Nvidia informed his channel that they were cutting sponsorship. He came back mid vacation. The first video was a rant but the very next Nvidia card he reviewed had RT and DLSS and strong points to purchase.

Here on TPU a review will come out for a GPU. The AMD variant will be near the top but people will tell you that AMD cannot do it. Like when Intel praised their 580 vs the 4060 and 7600. They even made VRAM a focus and the reviewers agreed, until we found that they don't work good with budget CPUs. Meanwhile the 7600XT is waiting for a price drop to become the budget card to get with 16 GB of VRAM.

Dont forget the barrage of hit pieces from Tim Jensen when it was RUMORED that AMD blocked his beloved DLSS from Starfield.

On another note, at the 1 minute mark, it says that Steve was banned from CES, not sure why:

 

[Kapone33]

Dont forget the barrage of hit pieces from Time Jensen when it was RUMORED that AMD blocked his beloved DLSS from Starfield.

On another note, at the 1 minute mark, it says that Steve was banned from CES, not sure why:

Wow he does not even know that from 6000 AMD has supported DP 2.1. It is not the newest but I don't use DSC

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

Wow he does not even know that from 6000 AMD has supported DP 2.1. It is not the newest but I don't use DSC

Typical of today’s influencers.

 

[JustBenching]

Dont forget the barrage of hit pieces from Time Jensen when it was RUMORED that AMD blocked his beloved DLSS from Starfield.

We talking about the same Tim Jensen? The guy that just released a video praising FSR4? That one?

 

[Krit]

What i personally does not like is 3 x 8pin power what a mess in terms of looks.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

We talking about the same Tim Jensen? The guy that just released a video praising FSR4? That one?

Dont know what he or Steve are up to, since i stopped watching them after the Starfield bs.

What i personally does not like is 3 x 8pin power what a mess in terms of looks.

I dont mind the 3 connectors.

I’m curious why it needs 3 since the power consumption it’s rumored to be low enough to only need 2.

 

[DaemonForce]

"Some people cannot see the future."

Meanwhile some designers (and engineers) can.
There are reasons you don't cram tons of power rail into confined spaces.
There are more reasons to not do it with higher resistance cables.
Maybe the connector is okay for duty that are technically between single and dual 8-pin jobs.
I'm not pumping 300W+ through it and calling it safe. Good on AMD letting us experiment with that.
In a world of rampant ignorance, moral imbeciles and mass menhera, people just have to learn the hard way.
Save it, screenshot it, YTMND it. Save it for a future meme compilation. It is NOT going to age well.

 

[igormp]

1. Tried drastically to improve their Linux drivers.

I believe this was mostly due to appeasing companies that used their products in the enterprise, not really targeting desktop gamers, that was more of a side effect given how the drivers were the same, but I digress.

 

[sn2x]

Things just got SPICY!

Faster than a 4080 Super in Raster and a few points off the 7900XTX in RT? Sign me up!

But at what price?

What if they only take off $50-$100 from the raster equivalent Nvidia GPU, where the Nvidia GPU probably has better RT and features.

Would be a repeat of the last several gens...

 

[Dawora]

Things just got SPICY!

Faster than a 4080 Super in Raster and a few points off the 7900XTX in RT? Sign me up!

its a call of duty where Amd is clearly faster.
So nope, u cant compare those results that way.
U can compare more like Amd vs Amd.

But u dont know price yet so... not so Spicy until that

 

[BlaezaLite]

its a call of duty where Amd is clearly faster.
So nope, u cant compare those results that way.
U can compare more like Amd vs Amd.

But u dont know price yet so... not so Spicy until that

Well, now we DO know the price. Carolina Reaper?

 

[TumbleGeorge]

It seems that the prices of AMD's 90X0 series graphics cards, which are due to hit the market in a few weeks, have been pre-scalped by traders in the European "Soviet" Union. 900-1100 USD equivalent for rx 9070 and rx 9070 xt.

 

[3valatzy]

It seems that the prices of AMD's 90X0 series graphics cards, which are due to hit the market in a few weeks, have been pre-scalped by traders in the European "Soviet" Union. 900-1100 USD equivalent for rx 9070 and rx 9070 xt.

Vote with your wallets!
No one sane will buy.

900-1100 USD equivalent means at least 24 GB VRAM, if not 32 GB VRAM, and performance 5-10% over RTX 4090!

 

[DaemonForce]

AMD's 90X0 series graphics cards

Nah, all I see are the usual suspects:

Gigglebyte.

 

[Dawora]

Again: so what? I don't care how many people disagree with me. I'm not the one trying to sell my personal opinion as the ultimate truth here.


Good for you. I'm fine with a 1440 ultrawide and no upscaling.

Ultimate truth is.
Nvidia know what we want.
Thats why Nvidia is Rank #1
They release products the most of us buy.

And little by little Amd fans go and buy green team Gpus.
Until there is only 10 HC amd fans left..the day will come

 

[AusWolf]

Ultimate truth is.
Nvidia know what we want.
Thats why Nvidia is Rank #1
They release products the most of us buy.

And little by little Amd fans go and buy green team Gpus.
Until there is only 10 HC amd fans left..the day will come

Because every single person on this planet wants the exact same thing. Obviously.

More AI, less VRAM, and a higher price. No, thank you.

 

[tpa-pr]

Ultimate truth is.
Nvidia know what we want.
Thats why Nvidia is Rank #1
They release products the most of us buy.

And little by little Amd fans go and buy green team Gpus.
Until there is only 10 HC amd fans left..the day will come

I've been pushing AMD to friends interested in upgrading unless:
1) They're seriously interested in ray-tracing.
2) They're seriously interested in Nvidia's software stack and features.
3) They're seriously interested in AI work.

Otherwise I say AMD are the better option for them. You generally get comparable or better performance with more VRAM for future-proofing at lower cost. AMD aren't my friend and they make plenty of mistakes, but the products are solid and competition is good.

I'm actually really interested in Battlemage too because again, competition is good. We don't want a single company to control the entire market, regardless of how good their products might be. They're not our friend and the second they get too much control they're going to make us pay for it figuratively and literally. Anyone with this much investment in a company would do well to remember that, even if you own stock.

 

[Space Lynx]

Even if FSR4 is not a blurry mess like FSR 1-3, it's only going to be used in a handful of games, where as DLSS 3 is in hundreds, DLSS4 in 75 with many more to come, etc. I think this is just the testing grounds for FSR4, and in 2-3 years we will get a new 2nm flagship AMD gpu with FSR4 implemented in many games, etc. I think it's best to wait or buy RTX 5070 Ti (I think that is the best bang for buck for new builders based on what little I have seen so far at $749). and I say this as an AMD fanboy, but yeah it is what it is.