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AMD Silently Introduces Ryzen 7400F Raphael 6-core/12-thread 65 W CPU

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While the Ryzen 5 7500F was the least expensive Raphael AM5 Zen 4 CPU that you could find, AMD has now silently launched the Ryzen 5 7400F, a new 6-core/12-thread SKU. Similar to the Ryzen 5 9600 (non-X) that was silently introduced during CES 2025, the Ryzen 5 7400F was not officially announced, but rather just showed up on AMD's product pages. Unlike the Ryzen 5 7500F, which was available only to OEMs and system integrators (SIs), the Ryzen 5 7400F will apparently be available in retail/e-tail as well.

As said, the Ryzen 5 7400F is a Raphael architecture CPU with Zen 4 CPU cores and fits into an AM5 socket. It is a 6-core CPU with support for AMD Simultaneous Multithreading (SMT), so it packs 12-threads and has the same 32 MB of L3 cache. The base clock is set at 3.7 GHz, with a maximum boost clock of 4.7 GHz. The TDP is still at 65 W. As with the rest of the lineup, it is an unlocked CPU, so overclocking is possible, and it supports AMD EXPO Memory Overclocking technology, as well as Precision Boost Overdrive. In the boxed version, it comes with an AMD Wraith Stealth cooler.



AMD is living up to its promise to expand its previous generation AM5 lineup, which includes the previously launched Ryzen 5 7600X3D 6-core SKU with 3D V-Cache. AMD has yet to confirm the price of the Ryzen 5 7400F, but since the Ryzen 5 7500F could be found for around $163, despite being limited to OEMs and system integrators, we expect the Ryzen 5 7400F to be priced at around $150.



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This has the oppertunity to be a great gaming CPU if AMD prices it right. If I were AMD, I would go for 130-150€.
 
I think people underestimate how powerful these 6C/12T CPUs really are. We could even go 4C/8T and still have plenty of power for web browsing and office tasks and build systems around them for dirt cheap.
 
This CPU is fast, indeed.

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Still falls short of some capable mobile chips.

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To get a proper understanding of how fast these chips are:

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Caring1 said:
What I took away from that is, the Intel chip runs a faster Turbo speed, has almost twice the TDP and MORE cores, and still loses. :laugh:
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What you didn't take away is the Intel chip is also several generations behind ;)
(NB That doesn't make the AMD parts any slower.)
 
bug said:
We could even go 4C/8T and still have plenty of power for web browsing and office tasks and build systems around them for dirt cheap.
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Yields are too good for that. AMD are having a blast and it's hard to them to defect chips out to being 6-cores, let alone 4-cores, too expensive to also dedicate production for that. 6/12 is gonna be the new minimum.

The problem with AM5 isn't CPUs, however, it's mainboards. They're still too expensive for budget users. It only targets those with money, even A620 boards aren't that cheap. Can't say it's bad, it's fine but those with limited cash are gonna choose between legacy models (AM4) and the competition ones (mainly i3-12100F+H610).
 
Macro Device said:
Yields are too good for that. AMD are having a blast and it's hard to them to defect chips out to being 6-cores, let alone 4-cores, too expensive to also dedicate production for that. 6/12 is gonna be the new minimum.

The problem with AM5 isn't CPUs, however, it's mainboards. They're still too expensive for budget users. It only targets those with money, even A620 boards aren't that cheap. Can't say it's bad, it's fine but those with limited cash are gonna choose between legacy models (AM4) and the competition ones (mainly i3-12100F+H610).
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I'm thinking motherboards, rather than production capacity, is why we don't have smaller CPUs: it's rather ridiculous when the motherboard costs 3x as much as the CPU. That's not to say there aren't any CPUs like that. AMD has the 8300G, Intel has several (and even weaker, like Pentiums). But they tend to be OEM-only, not something to buy so your (grand)parents can use to surf the web and check their email.
 
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There really is no impetus to release new budget CPUs or GPUs from Intel, AMD and Nvidia.

Intel might release a B310 and B350 but they will probably be slower than an AMD 16CU iGPU.

Would a few socketable CPUs and discrete GPUs under $100 really be that bad? A quad all performance cores using Zen 5 or Arrow Lake for $99 would hit the spot. Maybe even a 16-20CU RDNA4 for $99 with 6 GB RAM.
 
Daven said:
There really is no impetus to release new budget CPUs or GPUs from Intel, AMD and Nvidia.

Intel might release a B310 and B350 but they will probably be slower than an AMD 16CU iGPU.

Would a few socketable CPUs and discrete GPUs under $100 really be that bad?
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Cheap dGPUs are dead. But we have IGP instead.
 
#5

Please no nonsense comparison

Not every task can be executed on multiple cores.

Please compare 12 thread processors with 12 thread processors. Or pick the proper counterpart like ryzen 9900x? (I m on my tablet writing)

Do not pick high end 11900k - pick cheap 11th gen 6 core i5 counterpart also

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I'm always buying too early so those bargain amd cpu or gpus are not available. Downgrading for a 20€ difference is not worth it.

European buyers should be aware of the warranty differences between a 7600x box cpu and a 7500f tray cpu.
 
Macro Device said:
Yields are too good for that. AMD are having a blast and it's hard to them to defect chips out to being 6-cores, let alone 4-cores, too expensive to also dedicate production for that. 6/12 is gonna be the new minimum.

The problem with AM5 isn't CPUs, however, it's mainboards. They're still too expensive for budget users. It only targets those with money, even A620 boards aren't that cheap. Can't say it's bad, it's fine but those with limited cash are gonna choose between legacy models (AM4) and the competition ones (mainly i3-12100F+H610).
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Cheapest H610 is $80, cheapest a620 is $70 and will have Zen5 and Zen6 upgrade path, its not dead platform
 
3valatzy said:
iGPU is even more expensive. There is no problem to release 100 mm^2 chips for passively cooled, tiny, nano-class graphics cards.
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There IS a problem, and that is: why would you sacrifice room on your expensive node for a dirt cheap low end product nobody wants? Why do you even need such a product? for basic tasks IGPs come in nearly all CPUs today, they're not "expensive", they are the defining feature of low end hardware. For anything else, you're not buying low end stuff anymore. The 6400/6500 were tiny, made of spare parts form the mobile lineup, and nobody bought them.
 
3valatzy said:
4 years earlier - flagship RTX 3090 Ti. To put in a perspective - means that a Radeon RX 9060 should be as fast.
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I wouldn't have minded this tableturn but this isn't nearly what I meant by that.

What I meant is "4 years later, we have about 1.5x the power for about 75% money." This isn't bad by any stretch. CPU market is still improving.

GPU wise... whatever $360 GPU ($300 in 2021 money) being 50% faster than 3060 Ti ($400 MSRP) is about the same level of progress. We unfortunately don't yet have that.
usiname said:
Cheapest H610 is $80, cheapest a620 is $70
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We got $65 and $90 respectively here in Russia (VAT included).
usiname said:
its not dead platform
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Doesn't matter for 90+ % people who upgrade like once a decade and whatever you can slot into your mobo is obsolete or semi-obsolete. But sure, AM5 is a little bit better overall.

NB: Intel LGA1700 platform supports DDR4. It IS important for those with very little money. This means they can re-use their sticks or at least buy some for dirt cheap, unlike with DDR5. Also cheaper to cool i3-12100F than it is to cool AM5 processors.
 
It seems b840 amd chipsets are rebranded a620 chipsets without cpu overclocking. There you have a b450 equivalent cheap mainboard of the current generation.

Please deduct the cashback and 30€ additonally for the wifi module to be fair
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I would not advise it.

When you compare cheap mainboards from around 4 years ago - you should not take a 160€ msi b550 gaming edge wifi. You should take cheap entry b450 board for 70€ from that time - which was already obsolete. 220€ was a msi x570 tomahawk wifi. Most cheap boards were without wifi


Initial source, why i checked it days ago

ASUS PRIME B840M-A-CSM Mainboard mit AMD AM5 Sockel + 25€ Cashback bei Asus für nur 141.89€ | Preisjäger

www.preisjaeger.at www.preisjaeger.at

142€ including shipping
Minus 25€ cashback
Minus 30€ for wifi ... for comparision ... wifi was not on those cheap entry mainboards
 
Macro Device said:
I wouldn't have minded this tableturn but this isn't nearly what I meant by that.

What I meant is "4 years later, we have about 1.5x the power for about 75% money." This isn't bad by any stretch. CPU market is still improving.

GPU wise... whatever $360 GPU ($300 in 2021 money) being 50% faster than 3060 Ti ($400 MSRP) is about the same level of progress. We unfortunately don't yet have that.

We got $65 and $90 respectively here in Russia (VAT included).

Doesn't matter for 90+ % people who upgrade like once a decade and whatever you can slot into your mobo is obsolete or semi-obsolete. But sure, AM5 is a little bit better overall.

NB: Intel LGA1700 platform supports DDR4. It IS important for those with very little money. This means they can re-use their sticks or at least buy some for dirt cheap, unlike with DDR5. Also cheaper to cool i3-12100F than it is to cool AM5 processors.
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Even the people on small budget will upgrade after 10 years and if there is Zen6 it will be their choice.
16GB DDR4 is ~$30, 16GB DDR5 is ~$50, but the DDR5 is faster
What is supposed to mean Intel is cheaper for cooling? You can run both with low end cooler. In fact most people on small budget are using old coolers and AM5 is compatible with the old AM3 socket so 99% of the people already have coolers, while LGA1700 is not compatible with LGA1200 or older so you will need at least new brackets in the best case. If you want you can run both with the stock cooler which will be terrible experience
 
usiname said:
16GB DDR4 is ~$30, 16GB DDR5 is ~$50, but the DDR5 is faster
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That also translates to 16GB DDR5 is ~$50, 32GB DDR4 is ~$60. If that fits in your budget.
 
bug said:
That also translates to 16GB DDR5 is ~$50, 32GB DDR4 is ~$60. If that fits in your budget.
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$10 less for motherboard, cheap upgrade path after 4-5 years and much faster system, yes its the smart choice
 
usiname said:
after 10 years and if there is Zen6 it will be their choice.
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Or maybe Zen 7? Or perhaps something Intel? Or they ditch the desktop PC platform? Who knows.
If we talk short and mid term investments then:

i3-12100F is roughly 50 USD (aftermarket).
Cooling is roughly 10 USD (also aftermarket). Despite you telling it's "a terrible experience" it's in fact pretty much fine for this chip. Never overheats, unless ambient temp is too high or you misplaced it.
Mobo is $65.
16 GB DDR4 is $30.
$165 for a whole build.
With AM5, THE CHEAPEST CPU ALONE will cost you about as much. 16 GB DDR5 + AM5 mobo's also gonna cost you about as much. Of course, 7500F beats 12100F in literally everything but it'll cost you at least 130 dollars more to build on it. And, y'know, you can buy a decent 2nd hand GPU for that money. 2060 Super for example.
usiname said:
What is supposed to mean Intel is cheaper for cooling?
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Stock coolers are fine for 12100F and 12400F. I still rock a Laminar RM1 and it does its job just fine, my 12400F never throttled.
However, AM5 CPUs throttle like crazy under cheapos. Sometimes to the point you lose 12% of performance (at least with Ryzen 7 7700 non-X).
 
Macro Device said:
Or maybe Zen 7? Or perhaps something Intel? Or they ditch the desktop PC platform? Who knows.
If we talk short and mid term investments then:

i3-12100F is roughly 50 USD (aftermarket).
Cooling is roughly 10 USD (also aftermarket). Despite you telling it's "a terrible experience" it's in fact pretty much fine for this chip. Never overheats, unless ambient temp is too high or you misplaced it.
Mobo is $65.
16 GB DDR4 is $30.
$165 for a whole build.
With AM5, THE CHEAPEST CPU ALONE will cost you about as much. 16 GB DDR5 + AM5 mobo's also gonna cost you about as much. Of course, 7500F beats 12100F in literally everything but it'll cost you at least 130 dollars more to build on it. And, y'know, you can buy a decent 2nd hand GPU for that money. 2060 Super for example.

Stock coolers are fine for 12100F and 12400F. I still rock a Laminar RM1 and it does its job just fine, my 12400F never throttled.
However, AM5 CPUs throttle like crazy under cheapos. Sometimes to the point you lose 12% of performance (at least with Ryzen 7 7700 non-X).
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$165 with your imaginary numbers. $200 with actual, or you can show me links from Amazon or other big retailer?
 
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