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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5090 And RTX 5080 Likely to Be Extremely Hard to Get at Launch

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Recently, we covered a rumor arising from PCGH which stated that the RTX 5090, and perhaps even the RTX 5080, are gearing up to face an extremely stock-limited launch in Germany. Now, it appears that customers in North America will likely face very similar circumstances, if the claims made by tipster Moore's Law is Dead's sources are taken to be true. MLID spoke with several sources, including distributors and AIBs, all of whom had the same thing to say - it is going be quite hard to snag an RTX 5090 or RTX 5080 at launch.

One of the distributors that MLID apparently spoke with, went as far as to comment that they simply won't be having any RTX 5090s at all in the first month of launch. Further, while they received almost 200 RTX 4080s during the previous launch season, they only expect to get 20 units of the RTX 5080 this time around. As for the RTX 5090, they do not foresee inventory before late Q1, or even Q2 of this year. A second source, who claimed to be from an AIB partner, stated that while they will have RTX 5080s ready at launch, they are "only a fraction" of the RTX 4080s they had last time. Moreover, the number of RTX 5090s they claim to have matches that of the RTX 3090s they had, which, for those who don't remember, suffered from severe supply shortages at launch.




Another source in the EU claimed something along the same lines, and a source from NVIDIA revealed that they have already been warned that the stocks in the NVIDIA Employee Store will be very limited, unlike the RTX 4090s, which were easily available at the employee store at launch. Clearly, as mentioned previously, scoring a RTX 5090 at launch might turn out to be even more difficult than previously thought, despite the supply chain having mostly recovered. The reason behind the limited supply of RTX 50-series GPUs is not clear, but it might be fair to state that NVIDIA is bottlenecking supply to handle scalpers. That said, how launch availability for the RTX 5090 and 5080 plays out in real life, remains to be seen.

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I think we need a new term here instead of paper launch.

drip-feed-launch?
maximum torture for the impatient?
 
I think we need a new term here instead of paper launch.

drip-feed-launch?
maximum torture for the impatient?
Just hook it to my vein launch

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"...but it might be fair to state that NVIDIA is bottlenecking supply to handle scalpers."
I dont get it...
How exactly bottlenecking the supply will help with scalpers?
 
If the rumor is true, then making these hard to get would be a really good way to make sure MSRP is nothing more than a marketing tactic.
 
Well, I guess it is true then and Huang gave a hint in the presentation at CES when he said that nVidia and their partners are working hard to produce as many cards as possible for launch. I briefly thought, while watching the presentation, if this was a hint with regard to limited supply as it seemed like a slightly strange statement, but looking at these recent rumors/reports, I guess he was really dropping a hint there...
 
I’m glad I just like to have fun gaming with my GPU so I can buy AMD over Nvidia.
 
Nvidia "leaking" info to create FOMO. The 4nm node that the 5000 series uses is identical to the 5nm node the 4000 series uses so yield (and stock) should be good. There's no logical reason that stock would be low when Nvidia was the one that also choose to stop 4000 series production, unless of course Nvidia is manipulating the market.

All these games Nvidia is playing to screw with buyers when these new cards aren't going to be notably better except for the 5090 (and even then that comes at monetary and TDP cost).
 
Nvidia "leaking" info to create FOMO. The 4nm node that the 5000 series uses is identical to the 5nm node the 4000 series uses so yield (and stock) should be good. There's no logical reason that stock would be low when Nvidia was the one that also choose to stop 4000 series production, unless of course Nvidia is manipulating the market.

Wrong. The bottleneck in the last couple of years has been packaging across a wide variety of chips, not yields. There is a logical reason and it is called prioritizing the packaging of higher margin chips.

BTW, AMD's Zen 5 X3D CPUs are also made on a 5nm process again. So, what is your explanation for that one? Also market manipulation by AMD? :D

Spoiler: Nope. They are subject to the same (partially self-imposed) constraints. AMD also want to sell more Instinct, Threadripper and EPYC and less low margin consumer crap.
 
Wrong. The bottleneck in the last couple of years has been packaging across a wide variety of chips, not yields. There is a logical reason and it is called prioritizing the packaging of higher margin chips.

CoWoS is in high demand and that is only used in high end AI enterprise parts. 5000 series GPUs are single chip GPUs that doesn't use CoWoS, Organic substrate, or any advanced packaging so with that you are equivalently wrong. It's identical to the 4000 series in that regard.

BTW, AMD's Zen 5 X3D CPUs are also made on a 5nm process again. So, what is your explanation for that one? Also market manipulation by AMD? :D

A quick look at top selling CPU lists easily answers that question. Intel's arrow lake is a known dud, thus increasing demand for the 9800X3D. I'm not sure what the point of your comment is other than an attempt to ignore obvious facts to try to create a gotcha moment. Despite using more advanced packaging a single AMD CPU (9800X3D) is outselling Intel's entire arrow lake lineup combined. If you can't understand the difference between "sold out" and "low stock" I don't know what to tell you.
 
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I think we need a new term here instead of paper launch.

drip-feed-launch?
maximum torture for the impatient?

I think pathetic works just fine.

It's the most valuable company in the world now, they can do better for non-datacenters consumers and prosumers, especially if they are using a TSMC 4NP the (nearly) same one used back in 2022 (so cheaper and with most high-end like Apple switching to 2/3N). It's not datacenters revenues, it's still a multi-billion a year market in their quarters financial report
 
How many 5090s are being sold direct to people like Google/Amazon/M$ etc from the AI aspect?

Remember when nVidia sold MANY 3xxx series cards to Farms if they could sell en mass? I smell similar happening again.
 
I think we need a new term here instead of paper launch.

drip-feed-launch?
maximum torture for the impatient?

Scalper launch.

All the prices are going to be +$300 over MSRP at a minimum because Scalpers will have them all. And NVidia won't release enough to actually satisfy the demand, thus keeping prices high.

How many 5090s are being sold direct to people like Google/Amazon/M$ etc from the AI aspect?

Remember when nVidia sold MANY 3xxx series cards to Farms if they could sell en mass? I smell similar happening again.

Almost none. Microsoft/Google/Amazon are buying the $5000 to $15,000 cards. There's no way NVidia is willing to let them get "only" $2000 or $3000 out of a card when NVidia has licenses, deals, and more VRAM that these companies need in the higher price tiers.
 
see below...

'nuff said :)
 

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Wow the thing we already knew but MLID as a source, a daring piece of journalism as usual.
:laugh:
 
We don't even want, need, look at IT
 
Wow. No one is yet counter arguing for paper launch. o.o

That person who wants it will get it for a "reasonable price" (up to a zillion currency)
 
Late gen always best time to buy, but everyone crowds in at launch.
 
It has been the ongoing strategy for a while now to artificially keep prices high and a sign of the ongoing distain for retail GPU. Only reason they give us poor plebs anything is to hedge there bets incase the current boom falters and they require consumer GPU sales until the next boom.
 
I hoped for lower prices on RTX3xxx after RTX5xxx launch. I don't see that happening now. It does look like intentional move to keep the profits high.
 
Wrong. The bottleneck in the last couple of years has been packaging across a wide variety of chips, not yields. There is a logical reason and it is called prioritizing the packaging of higher margin chips.

BTW, AMD's Zen 5 X3D CPUs are also made on a 5nm process again. So, what is your explanation for that one? Also market manipulation by AMD? :D

Spoiler: Nope. They are subject to the same (partially self-imposed) constraints. AMD also want to sell more Instinct, Threadripper and EPYC and less low margin consumer crap.
Damn good point there...
 
I think we need a new term here instead of paper launch.

drip-feed-launch?
maximum torture for the impatient?
Edging launch
 
Looks like I am skipping another gen boys. No rush, my Ampere still kicking butt.
 
in the 70's when my dad was buying a car, he had to pay the full price and wait 10 years for the car to be available. GG communism.
 
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