NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50 Cards Spotted with Missing ROPs, NVIDIA Confirms the Issue, Multiple Vendors Affected

[Vya Domus]

The kinds of defective RTX 5090s discussed in the article have 168 active ROPs, so they can be disabled in groups of 8 or factors of 8. I would think that disabling the same 16 ROPs via VBIOS would cause yields to plummet because those left could be damaged or failed.

I imagine they are sorted by which ROPs are fussed off and configured independently then sold as different models, sometimes even amongst the same model you have cards that come with different versions of VBIOS.

I also explained that there are just way too many defects to figure out by simply checking fuses.

 

[W1zzard]

that come with different versions of VBIOS.

The VBIOS does not configure any unit counts on modern GPUs, hasn't for like 10+ years. The VBIOS is identical on all cards, no matter how they are configured for harvesting.

Because otherwise people could unlock units and GPU vendors really don't want that. Yet its how this journey into computer hardware began for me around 2003

 

[Vya Domus]

Because otherwise people could unlock units

If they are physically disabled as I am assuming it must always be the case these days there would be no risk of that, even if it's by means of blowing fuses or whatnot. Every wafer gets checked for defects anyway, I just don't see why you'd leave it up to software, it's not reliable and in theory there would always be a risk of someone finding out a way to enable them.

Why does Nvidia talk about seeking replacements rather that giving people the option to update the VBIOS. This doesn't make sense, if they are defective this means there is no risk of unlocking units, if they aren't that means they were disabled through the firmware and this could be fixed by a VBIOS update but why would they ever do that in the first place, doesn't sound plausible at all.

 

[N/A]

to be honest 5090 should have had 240 ROPs for the shader count.
Now it's just a pale shadow of what it could be. 8 ROPs is not the only issue here and you're missing the forest for the trees.

 

[Deleted member 247178]

Paper launch, fake prices, fake frames, fake resolution, terrible generational performance uplift, bricked cards, flawed board design, defective chips and no PhysX. But hey, at least we got real flames for our $2,000 $6,000 card.

 

[lexluthermiester]

except Macz is correct

No. The economic theory that user presents is little more than amateur-hour nonsense.

For people buying directly a dGPU through retail, you are probably right, but what about people buying prebuilt ?

That's a larger, more expensive purchase. Do you think people would not do their homework? Sure, some don't, there are always going to be those who buy based on buzz words and flashy gimmicks. But to say most are like that is very narrow thinking indeed.

Paper launch, fake prices, fake frames, fake resolution, terrible generational performance uplift, bricked cards, flawed board design, defective chips and no PhysX. But hey, at least we got real flames for our $2,000 $6,000 card.

What really sucks is that you are not wrong. This has become the most pathetic GPU launch in history. What makes it even more pathetic is that NVidia is likely going to call it a success.

das ist nicht gut

Translation, That is not good.

 

[erek]

RTX 5080 missing ROPs​

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/?f=flair_name:"PSA"

https://www.reddit.com/r/nvidia/comments/1iwi18d

 

[lexluthermiester]

This is either a very weird driver glitch, or NVidia has a very serious problem.

 

[Tek-Check]

Well... the first 5080 - 8 ROPs is smiling too

First GeForce RTX 5080 discovered with 104 ROPS, 8 missing in action - VideoCardz.com

Apparently it is not just RTX 5090 and RTX 5070 Ti, but also 5080 Exactly how widespread is the problem, NVIDIA? Yesterday, NVIDIA announced that two cards may be affected by a production “anomaly” which causes lower ROPs specs in the final configuration. NVIDIA claimed that this can result in...

videocardz.com

This is either a very weird driver glitch, or NVidia has a very serious problem.

One almost does not want to believe, right? Nvidia did not tell us that 5080s could be affected.
But hey, they did not even tells us anything about missing ROPs until the community here discovered it.

 

[erek]

This is either a very weird driver glitch, or NVidia has a very serious problem.

Reminder: nvidia announcement only said 5090, 5090D, and 5070 Ti. They are clueless.

Nvidia GeForce global PR director Ben Berraondo tells The Verge:

We have identified a rare issue affecting less than 0.5% (half a percent) of GeForce RTX 5090 / 5090D and 5070 Ti GPUs which have one fewer ROP than specified. The average graphical performance impact is 4%, with no impact on AI and Compute workloads. Affected consumers can contact the board manufacturer for a replacement. The production anomaly has been corrected.

 

[Daven]

Looks like 5080s are missing ROPs as well.

First GeForce RTX 5080 discovered with 104 ROPS, 8 missing in action - VideoCardz.com

Apparently it is not just RTX 5090 and RTX 5070 Ti, but also 5080 Exactly how widespread is the problem, NVIDIA? Yesterday, NVIDIA announced that two cards may be affected by a production “anomaly” which causes lower ROPs specs in the final configuration. NVIDIA claimed that this can result in...

videocardz.com

Founder’s edition effected.

 

[PerfectWave]

Looks like 5080s are missing ROPs as well.

First GeForce RTX 5080 discovered with 104 ROPS, 8 missing in action - VideoCardz.com

Apparently it is not just RTX 5090 and RTX 5070 Ti, but also 5080 Exactly how widespread is the problem, NVIDIA? Yesterday, NVIDIA announced that two cards may be affected by a production “anomaly” which causes lower ROPs specs in the final configuration. NVIDIA claimed that this can result in...

videocardz.com

Founder’s edition effected.

Also >Jensen is affected his brain has 1 rop defective

 

[Hecate91]

Looks like 5080s are missing ROPs as well.

First GeForce RTX 5080 discovered with 104 ROPS, 8 missing in action - VideoCardz.com

Apparently it is not just RTX 5090 and RTX 5070 Ti, but also 5080 Exactly how widespread is the problem, NVIDIA? Yesterday, NVIDIA announced that two cards may be affected by a production “anomaly” which causes lower ROPs specs in the final configuration. NVIDIA claimed that this can result in...

videocardz.com

Founder’s edition effected.

Nvidia had to have known about this well in advance for an FE card to be affected.
Not sure if its still true, but the FE cards were supposed to have the higher quality chips.

 

[PerfectWave]

The easy way to fix it for nvidia is to modify the sheet info on their card. So customer with correct rops count will never do a class action vs nvidia because they have gpu with more rops LUL

 

[Auxityne]

Now I can't help but wonder if this played some role in the delay of the regular 5070 and 5060.

God, imagine paying hundreds or thousands of dollars to play ROP gacha. At this point I may as well bid on a 30 series or an RX 6000 series on eBay.

 

[PerfectWave]

imaging >>>>>AI server blackwell are also affected too but they dont have proper gpuz program. company spend billion for defective gpu LUL. Also they have problem with hbm3...

 

[Niceumemu]

Nvidia 100% sold chips with missing ROPs knowingly and just hoped people wouldn't notice. You don't have the exact same "defect" across every tier of GPU with the same consistent number of missing ROPs by accident

The fact they are relying on consumers to check and put in warranty claims shows they're just trying to see how much they can get away with

 

[InVasMani]

Paper launch, fake prices, fake frames, fake resolution, terrible generational performance uplift, bricked cards, flawed board design, defective chips and no PhysX. But hey, at least we got real flames for our $2,000 $6,000 card.

The infamous real time flame tracing...

and these PhysX are so lit! Situation is ruff, but first coffee...

 

[sbacc]

Wow, beyond all the joke and memes, this is wild, as a brand agnostic, currently AMD GPU owner, if someone would have told me months ago that Nvidia would have a launch that messy, I would have never believed them and probably called them AMD cultist back. But here we are, my memory isn't perfect, but as someone that was here when the first 3dfx card launched and when the first pentium launched, I can't remember a launch that bad in PC history...I am far from an Nvidia fanboi, but even for me this level of fail from Nvidia seems unbelievable...

 

[ThomasK]

You'd expect this level of amateurism from amd, not the multi trillion dollar valued company.

 

[Godrilla]

You'd expect this level of amateurism from amd, not the multi trillion dollar valued cocompany.

The turtle wins the race by default.

 

[Dr. Dro]

You'd expect this level of amateurism from amd, not the multi trillion dollar valued company.

I don't expect this level of amateurism from ANYONE. Not the couple of trillion dollar green company, and not the couple hundred billion dollar red company, or even the couple of dozen billion dollar blue company. Hell I don't expect it from China's Moore Threads.

 

[GhostOps21]

Phew, this release just keeps getting worse and worse.

 

[Godrilla]

I don't expect this level of amateurism from ANYONE. Not the couple of trillion dollar green company, and not the couple hundred billion dollar red company, or even the couple of dozen billion dollar blue company. Hell I don't expect it from China's Moore Threads.

Maybe they cought the Intel bug. Doesn't give me confidence in the long term use of these if they were affected by TSMC'S earthquake. I wonder if TSMC is equally to blame. Although one monopoly probably fears retaliation of another monopoly to state something public.

 

[Dawora]

Paper launch, fake prices, fake frames, fake resolution, terrible generational performance uplift, bricked cards, flawed board design, defective chips and no PhysX. But hey, at least we got real flames for our $2,000 $6,000 card.

6000$ those sold so high where?
I sold under 5k, and bought 4090 liquid X.

Now I can't help but wonder if this played some role in the delay of the regular 5070 and 5060.

God, imagine paying hundreds or thousands of dollars to play ROP gacha. At this point I may as well bid on a 30 series or an RX 6000 series on eBay.

Yes losing some performance, but good thing is u can return the GPU even afther over 1year in EU and u get new Gpu or 100% moneys back.

some of the first 5070/5060 will have same problem, so maybe fixed because delay.

Just stop it or wake up! When looking at history in general (performance gains) RTX 50 Series on average are the weakest generation ever released.

Maybe not the best deals but those can be much more expensive also thank to AMD..
So in the end.. its AMD fault because no competition.

Imagine how freaking terrible everyone else is doing on performance gains if they can't even get top 5 against these crappy nvidia cards. Insane, right?

2 crap nvidia generations in a row and instead of everyone else passing them by in performance, the gap gets larger and larger. Unfathomable...

For now planet earth cant do better Gpus sadly.
Maybe afther 5nm...