Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT Nitro+

[mkppo]

Its only a matter of time... This card is not worth $730. AMD better cash in while it can...

It's 600, and there are cards to be had at that price. Unlike 5070ti which cannot be had at that price or even close to it.

730 is for the flagship Sapphire model, but they have a pulse for 600.

What you're doing is comparing a flagship AIB model to a imaginary MSRP. That's strange..

 

[Sir Beregond]

How unfortunate.

After finding out the issue is more 'balancing' and less 'ampacity', I'm not at all confident in a ++12VHPWR, even @ 50-67% of its rating.

I don't worry about the 12-pin on my 3080 Ti FE. I don't know why they didn't just replicate that.

 

[LabRat 891]

I don't worry about the 12-pin on my 308p Ti FE. I don't know why they didn't just replicate that.

[tinfoil hat]That would make worn and well-used cards 'malfunction' rather than 'non-function'. [/tinfoil hat]
Seriously though... I cannot understand the reasoning behind this trend, other than purposeful inbuilt obsolescence.

 

[Rover4444]

When I checked out eBay, newegg, etc. last month (about the 50*0 launch) that was not the case. (-and non-12pin XTXs were $1200-1500+)
Though Navi48 is equipped w/ less VRAM, it's not showing it. Even @ 4K, it's not losing to the 20 and 24GB Navi3x cards. -In gaming*.

Short-term memory. Pricing was lower before that. Microcenter still has them at ~$700. GPUs are in very high demand right now for some reason and have been since February, so the prices you've seen are inflated because they aren't in stock anywhere. 4 GB is 4GB and less is less, I don't care if it's not utilized enough, the point is you're getting less VRAM but better raytracing so it's a trade-off.

1% better value, is still a better value.

Better doesn't mean compelling. If AMD wants market share, it has to be the latter.

The $550 RX 9070 (non-XT) is reliably better than the 7900 GRE in all aspects, and meeting-beating the 7900 XT. While not the 'leaps' we've once been used to, that's a pretty good value. IMHO, the 7900 GRE was the highest value "greater than mid-tier" card we'd seen, in ages. Merely matching that value, is notable (today).

We all want things to keep getting smaller, faster, and ESPECIALLY cheaper. Sadly, a *lot* of seemingly-unrelated factors have slowed that historical trend to a crawl.

AMD's goal this generation is to increase market share. It has to be a much better value even when compared to their own cards to move the needle a meaningful amount.

The way I see it, somebody moving from a 4070 Ti Super to a 5070 Ti is getting a better value purchase than somebody moving from a 7800 XT or even a 7900 GRE to a 9070 XT. That's horrendous.

IIRC, AMD still is considered to have the best driver support on Linux.

Everything's relative right now, and we're kinda in a rut of suck.

L1T's video shows really good performance. There's still no real ROCm support to speak of so I'll have to wait either way.

 

[MxPhenom 216]

Its only a matter of time... This card is not worth $730. AMD better cash in while it can...

You realize this is just one card of several flavors from AIBs. This is potentially the most expensive one.

 

[lexluthermiester]

AMD seems to have pulled out the stops. Good showing. This launch makes NVidia look like monkey's diddling a football this round. Well done AMD!

PLEASE Note: Before any of you call me an AMD fanboy, I'm an NVidia guy for many reasons. As you can guess, I've been supremely annoyed and irritated by NVidia's pathetic launch this round. This showing by AMD is great for everyone! Users get a very solid offering for(hopefully) better prices, AMD gets to profit from NVidia's dumbassery and finally NVidia get a well deserved kick to the nether-region, which will hopefully serve as motivation to kick it up a few notches.

Now it's Intel's turn for the ARC B750 and B770. Come on Intel, bring'em out!

 

[FreedomEclipse]

@W1zzard why couldnt the regular 9070 be added to all the charts?

 

[Rover4444]

AMD seems to have pulled out the stops. Good showing. This launch makes NVidia look like monkey diddling a football this round. Well done AMD!

PLEASE Note: Before any of you call me an AMD fanboy, I'm an NVidia guy for many reasons. As you can guess, I've been supremely annoyed and irritated by NVidia's pathetic launch this round. This showing by AMD is great for everyone! Users get a very solid offering for(hopefully) better prices, AMD gets to profit from NVidia's dumbassery and finally NVidia get a well deserved kick to the nether-region, which will hopefully serve as motivation to kick it up a few notches.

No it's Intel's turn for the ARC B750 and B770. Come on Intel, bring'em out!

I don't think Intel's going to put out any higher tier Battlemage cards when Celestial is already cooked. If anything Battlemage comes out it'll be a 24GB B580 and then a Celestial card would come out in H2 this year, optimally.

 

[Guwapo77]

It's 600, and there are cards to be had at that price. Unlike 5070ti which cannot be had at that price or even close to it.

730 is for the flagship Sapphire model, but they have a pulse for 600.

What you're doing is comparing a flagship AIB model to a imaginary MSRP. That's strange..

I specifically stated Nitro+ @ $730. I told you were the 570Ti @ $749.99. Nothing is strange about anything... Matter fact, did you even read my post?

You realize this is just one card of several flavors from AIBs. This is potentially the most expensive one.

I'm fully aware of that bro... and hello neighbor, we shop at the same Microcenter. If you're curious, they said they have all the launch models and there are plenty.

 

[nolive721]

From a market perspective, not in the slightest. You may still find someone willing to part with the amount you're looking for, though!

Did exactly that a month ago

Sold it for the exact same price I bought it at launch

Hopefully prices for the 9070xt here in Japan won’t be following what I see on 5000series which is absolutely nuts

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Did exactly that a month ago

Sold it for the exact same price I bought it at launch

Hopefully prices for the 9070xt here in Japan won’t be following what I see on 5000series which is absolutely nuts

In the UK it's looking promising so hopefully other territories will follow.

UK retailer confirms stock of 1,000 units of a single Radeon RX 9070 XT model at MSRP - VideoCardz.com

OCUK has 1000 of Sapphire RX 9070 XT Pulse Just one MSRP model at one retailer. We didn’t publish a launch post for the GeForce RTX 5070 graphics card today due to its unavailability and the clear difficulty in purchasing these cards at the MSRP. However, tomorrow’s AMD launch appears to be...

videocardz.com

 

[Onasi]

Good card. Theoretically. I tire of writing this on every fucking GPU review this year, but everything will depend on having stock and the price being at least vaguely close to what is “announced”. If it isn’t or the card is perpetually out of stock, well, at least it was an entertaining 24 hours after reviews.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Did exactly that a month ago

Sold it for the exact same price I bought it at launch

Hopefully prices for the 9070xt here in Japan won’t be following what I see on 5000series which is absolutely nuts

Nice, I did more or less the same too. I sold my RTX 4080 ROG Strix OC White for basically ~$1100 USD net profit after platform fees and all, card had around 18 months of gaming-only use and was well cared for, the buyer was naturally happy. I paid $1500 USD equivalent or so on it (it's really an exotic model with ROG and white model taxes on top) back when it was new, end of the day it paid more than a good chunk of my RTX 5090. If there are any delays beyond scheduled, though, I'm seriously considering canceling my order and then simply buying this and pocketing the rest.

 

[xSneak]

I don't get why they can't release a 96 CU version. It really feels like they are spitting on us again.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I don't get why they can't release a 96 CU version. It really feels like they are spitting on us again.

They didn't expect the 50 series to be so trash so figured why bother. Even had Nvidia got the gains they have on average the last two generations this wouldn't have been all that competitive.

 

[tpa-pr]

AMD seems to have pulled out the stops. Good showing. This launch makes NVidia look like monkey diddling a football this round. Well done AMD!

PLEASE Note: Before any of you call me an AMD fanboy, I'm an NVidia guy for many reasons. As you can guess, I've been supremely annoyed and irritated by NVidia's pathetic launch this round. This showing by AMD is great for everyone! Users get a very solid offering for(hopefully) better prices, AMD gets to profit from NVidia's dumbassery and finally NVidia get a well deserved kick to the nether-region, which will hopefully serve as motivation to kick it up a few notches.

No it's Intel's turn for the ARC B750 and B770. Come on Intel, bring'em out!

We all benefit from good competition, absolutely. I think Nvidia is experiencing the Intel effect, sitting on their laurels, stagnating and taking advantage of their customer base to an extreme. If they're not careful AMD might Ryzen them with UDNA

 

[lexluthermiester]

I don't think Intel's going to put out any higher tier Battlemage cards when Celestial is already cooked.

Maybe? That would be very cool.

If anything Battlemage comes out it'll be a 24GB B580 and then a Celestial card would come out in H2 this year, optimally.

That's an interesting thought, but let's not get off topic!

I think Nvidia is experiencing the Intel effect, sitting on their laurels, stagnating and taking advantage of their customer base to an extreme.

I think the Intel thing is more complicated with all the troubles with die defects popping up for 13th and 14th gen top tier models. That was an honest mistake in chemistry & engineering that bit them in the butt. Then the board-of-directors screwed things over even more with the Pat Gelsinger nonsense.

However, let's focus on the Radeon of topic here.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

We all benefit from good competition, absolutely. I think Nvidia is experiencing the Intel effect, sitting on their laurels, stagnating and taking advantage of their customer base to an extreme. If they're not careful AMD might Ryzen them with UDNA

That is really the key. A full stack this competitive on top of being consistent will go a long way towards helping them claw market share back. Right now they have the advantage of the closest competitor to the 9070XT being 899+ and very low volume.

Amd still priced the vanilla 9070 stupidly and are currently giving rebates to hit $599 with the 9070XT accordingly to HUB, it'll be interesting how competitive these will be once both gpu makers are at msrp

 

[wheresmycar]

Its nice to see more cards falling into this performance space > 5070 TI / 7900 XTX / 4080/S.... More importantly, having access to this level of performance at a reasonable cost makes the 9700 XT upgrade feel like a real possibility for me.

Nvidia needs to trim the $$-fat on the 5070 TI.

 

[RootinTootinPootin]

9060 incoming, where's 9090XT? (wishful thinking)

these is one slap to the butt of the 5070 and 5070ti..still FSR4 is there, but still is lackluster, it just plays catch with DLSS at this rate..thought DLSS isn't improving much either with the version 4..NVDIA is also crapping up the driver support, so AMD has to do it right somehow in that department..

 

[chrcoluk]

Hopefully stock is adequate for these unlike the Nvidia joke. Price looks decent for the performance.

 

[W1zzard]

@W1zzard why couldnt the regular 9070 be added to all the charts?

where is it missing?

Did you happen to make a note of what minimum and maximum power limits are for the tuning slider?

it's -30% to +10%

 

[Hyderz]

the 9070xt seems to be on par with the 5070ti... what do you guys think
further down the line with newer drivers and optimization... the 9070xt can overall edge out the 5070ti? by say 5-7%

 

[chrcoluk]

AMD FSR 4 Upscaling Tested vs DLSS 3/4 & - A Big Leap Forward - RDNA 4 Delivers!

According to DF FSR4 is superior to DLSS CNN(a miracle they pointed this out). It's still not on par with the transformer model, but it provides better AA in specific scenes.

Thats a huge step forward, very good news.

I like this arms race on FSR/DLSS, its a means to fixing TAA trash, and both companies are competing with each other now to make it better. RT I still consider 'meh' but DLSS/FSR I think is ending up a good tech.

 

[lexluthermiester]

the 9070xt seems to be on par with the 5070ti... what do you guys think

Yeah, about that.