9800x3d Air Cooling?

[uber_m0j0]

Hey all. I'm looking for advice for air coolers for my new 9800x3d.
I enjoy Noctua and have used that brand for years. But the D15 that the internet seems to recommend is way too big for my tastes.
I'd like to keep a single tower cooler if possible, again the dual towers are just so massive, uck.
I'm really eyeballing the U12a. I can't find a lot of information from 9800x3d users and that cooler.
So I'm turning to you folk =)
Do you guys think the u12a in a Fractal North XL will be enough?

The only reason I'm leaning air is because I cant seem to find anyone who agrees on what 240-280mm aio is actually quiet?

 

[phanbuey]

Hey all. I'm looking for advice for air coolers for my new 9800x3d.
I enjoy Noctua and have used that brand for years. But the D15 that the internet seems to recommend is way too big for my tastes.
I'd like to keep a single tower cooler if possible, again the dual towers are just so massive, uck.
I'm really eyeballing the U12a. I can't find a lot of information from 9800x3d users and that cooler.
So I'm turning to you folk =)
Do you guys think the u12a in a Fractal North XL will be enough?

The only reason I'm leaning air is because I cant seem to find anyone who agrees on what 240-280mm aio is actually quiet?

U12A is fine but it gets spanked by the thermalright coolers - peerless assasin, phantom spirit / evo, etc.

Just a normal peerless assasin is enough to cool it but phantom spirit for a few bucks more may do an even better job.

An AIO is as quiet as you make it -- alot of people run their pump at full speed and ramp fans with CPU temperature (which will fluctuate) which makes an AIO actually louder than an air cooler. If you get an AIO, get one with a thermal sensor (like the nzxt) then use a program like Argus or CAM to ramp fans and pump with liquid temperature -- at that point you will have a really quiet cooler - especially if your AIO is in the INTAKE (not exhaust) position.

As the liquid temperature ramps up, your cooling system will gradually get louder to match -- that graduality is almost impossible to detect so the machine will be and will feel extremely quiet.

Fractal North XL is a great case - get a nice 360 AIO put it up front, and use the liquid temp to ramp it - start the fans off at 700RPM and spin up as needed to keep water at 25C or whatever T delta works to keep the chip temps where you want them.

 

[Vya Domus]

It will be fine, a 280mm AIO will be quieter because you can simply run the fans slower.

 

[uber_m0j0]

It will be fine, a 280mm AIO will be quieter because you can simply run the fans slower.

Do you think a 240 would cut it too?
Something like this Kraken Elite 240

 

[Marcus L]

Do you think a 240 would cut it too?
Something like this Kraken Elite 240

I would look at thermalright or idcooling you can get 240/360 for $100< I see no need to pay 2.5 times that for what will be similar performance

 

[uber_m0j0]

I would look at thermalright or idcooling you can get 240/360 for $100< I see no need to pay 2.5 times that for what will be similar performance

Thanks, I'll check 'em out.

U12A is fine but it gets spanked by the thermalright coolers - peerless assasin, phantom spirit / evo, etc.

Just a normal peerless assasin is enough to cool it but phantom spirit for a few bucks more may do an even better job.

An AIO is as quiet as you make it -- alot of people run their pump at full speed and ramp fans with CPU temperature (which will fluctuate) which makes an AIO actually louder than an air cooler. If you get an AIO, get one with a thermal sensor (like the nzxt) then use a program like Argus or CAM to ramp fans and pump with liquid temperature -- at that point you will have a really quiet cooler - especially if your AIO is in the INTAKE (not exhaust) position.

As the liquid temperature ramps up, your cooling system will gradually get louder to match -- that graduality is almost impossible to detect so the machine will be and will feel extremely quiet.

Fractal North XL is a great case - get a nice 360 AIO put it up front, and use the liquid temp to ramp it - start the fans off at 700RPM and spin up as needed to keep water at 25C or whatever T delta works to keep the chip temps where you want them.

I appreciate the recommendations. But those thermalright coolers are all dual tower ones? I'm trying to stick to single tower (two fan installed) , just because of size. A personal preference on size thing =)

 

[Marcus L]

Thanks, I'll check 'em out.


I appreciate the recommendations. But those thermalright coolers are all dual tower ones? I'm trying to stick to single tower (two fan installed) , just because of size. A personal preference on size thing =)

Here's my TR PA SE yes it's big but there's plenty of room for RAM clearance and no issues with space in general, I think a single tower cooler will struggle with a 9800x3D then you will b e sacrificing noise as the fans will have to run faster to make up for the lack of capacity, so if noise is a concern, go for dual tower or 280/360 AIO you can't have it both ways

 

[GerKNG]

i cool a 9900x with no powerlimit (220-250W) on a small 4 heatpipe single tower cooler with one fan and it's fine.

 

[nomdeplume]

I appreciate the recommendations. But those thermalright coolers are all dual tower ones? I'm trying to stick to single tower (two fan installed) , just because of size. A personal preference on size thing =)

Scythe Mugen 6 if where heat is generated remains similar to AMD processors it was reviewed with?

Link is to dual tower PA140 showing how Mugen 6 with dual 120mm fan compares on 7900X.

 

[freeagent]

i cool a 9900x with no powerlimit (220-250W) on a small 4 heatpipe single tower cooler with one fan and it's fine.

Show me 250w on 4 heatpipes please.

 

[GerKNG]

Show me 250w on 4 heatpipes please.

start's at ~5.4Ghz at ~265W and hits steady state at around 5.25-5.3Ghz at 235-245W after 30 Minutes.

 

[freeagent]

That is fucking crazy bro. I am impressed.

 

[phanbuey]

do you live in the arctic.

 

[GerKNG]

do you live in the arctic.

~20°C ambient.

 

[LabRat 891]

Freeagent helped me drill-down to a Thermalright dual-tower, when I still wanted to avoid an AIO.
The Thermaliright Phantom Spirit 120 was a big improvement over my old HDT 120mm single tower.
Still, I ended up on a 280mm AIO that a friend had spare. -and that AIO was another big improvement over the dual-tower Tr PS120EVO.

The only reason I'm leaning air is because I cant seem to find anyone who agrees on what 240-280mm aio is actually quiet?

With the exception of whatever magic GerKNG has going on, a 240-280mm AIO will reliably outperform a single tower cooler.
-and, with the exception of a noisy/defective pump, the noise level of an AIO is (almost entirely) dependent on the fans.

I'd trust and recommend an Arctic Freezer, just because it'll come with P12s/P14s. (some of, if not the best quiet high-pressure fans).

start's at ~5.4Ghz at ~265W and hits steady state at around 5.25-5.3Ghz at 235-245W after 30 Minutes.
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Is that cooler made out of Silver (Ag), or were you just blessed with the best example of an IHS, that AMD's ever made?

 

[Ruru]

Thermalright Peerless Assassin. Can't recommend anything else since that's a hella great cooler from the 50EUR budget area.

 

[Marcus L]

Thermalright Peerless Assassin. Can't recommend anything else since that's a hella great cooler from the 50EUR budget area.

Can be had for like $30 insane price/performance

 

[Ruru]

Can be had for like $30 insane price/performance

Yeah, I just checked quickly the price around here so there's the 50EUR price I said

 

[adulaamin]

Thermalright PA120SE... dual tower but it's not as big as an Noctua NH-D14/15...

 

[Ruru]

Thermalright PA120SE... dual tower but it's not as big as an Noctua NH-D14/15...

An used NH-12S would also be dope, I had that back in the day and that was the best 40EUR cooler I ever had.

 

[freeagent]

I cant get R23 to do more than 240w, but Linpack will do 260

Good times.

I think I will swap to my PS120 Evo right away.. I tried FC140 on this CPU.. it was ok..

Only 2 payments left on this case and then I can move back to my Torrent haha.

 

[A Computer Guy]

start's at ~5.4Ghz at ~265W and hits steady state at around 5.25-5.3Ghz at 235-245W after 30 Minutes.
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What air cooler this that? ....my shopping window is open and waiting for clicks...

 

[Toothless]

I just did a 9800x3d build with that uh.. dual tower ID-Cooling TPU did a review for. Zero issues with keeping the chip cool and it was sitting at 5.2 all core.

 

[GerKNG]

What air cooler this that? ....my shopping window is open and waiting for clicks...

Noctua NH-U12S Redux. Performs around the same as the Thermalright coolers (Assassin King, Burst Assassin, Assassin X).

 

[uber_m0j0]

Hmm shifting from air to aio feelings now. And there's a ton of reviews to read, yikes.
But I just kind of threw a dart and landed on Liquid 240 Atmos Do you folks think
this will be decent?