NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 8 GB Variants Not Made Available to Review Outlets

[Vayra86]

How dare Nvidia insult people by giving them choices, right?

Yeah, why don't they keep making 4GB x60's! All for the sake of choices.

There was a point in time when we expected a company to make, you know, decent products worthy of a purchase. How dare we demand that. Yeah.

Man stop fooling yourself. We're just getting the least possible amount of hardware for an inflated price point now. It used to be just an inflated price point. And here you are advocating 'choices'. Lmfao. You're like the employer that says to its employees 'At least you've got a job, right!' Stop complaining!' even though the job's underpaid, the free lunch that was promised isn't given, and you're actually doing shitty chores instead of what you were hired to do.

The 5060Ti is more like a 5050, a card meant to be HHHL

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'Choices'. Exactly You almost need a magnifying glass to find back the PCB under the overkill shroud. Its one big misleading clusterfuck built for the gullible, naive and stupid. 'but but 8GB runs almost everything at not max settings at 1080p!'.... and we wonder why we can't have nice things. With a customer base like this, you don't even need marketing. Just plonk half defective GPUs on the market next time, why not? We already saw missing ROPs.

 

[Ninehell]

The 5060Ti is more like a 5050, a card meant to be HHHL

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Imagine everyone need sag support from using pcie 8x mid tier card

 

[Hyderz]

$380 RTX 5050 in disguise

 

[john_]

How dare Nvidia insult people by giving them choices, right?

You are ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. And I will shout at Nvidia:
GIVE ME MORE CHOICES
I want a 6GB version for $300.
I want a 4GB version for $200.
I want a 2GB version for $180.(you where expecting $100, right? Only the Nvidia logo costs $100)
GIVE ME CHOICES NVIDIA.

The 5060Ti is more like a 5050, a card meant to be HHHL

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Damn, even some ancient G210s have more PCB than this. And they price this HALF piece of S at over $400.

Man stop fooling yourself.

Fooling? More like part time job.

 

[Rightness_1]

I don't get it. 8GB is sufficient to run games. Not with all eye candy turned on, but still it would perform as it should.

The price difference for a 16GB model is roughly 60$ - i doubt that you get any performance benefit from going twice the amount of VRAM.

Same story with the RX580/480 - 4GB vs 8GB. The 8GB model did not show any performance difference, and on top of that the GPU was never intended to be stronger then 1080p.

640k is more than enough...

Seriously, there are dozens of games now that stutter and won't even run properly on 8GB cards.

 

[Jism]

640k is more than enough...

Seriously, there are dozens of games now that stutter and won't even run properly on 8GB cards.

Example? That sounds more like a bad (ported) game rather then one being optmized. Many people seem to forget that allocating VRAM vs actually using it are two whole different things.

Yes you can "cache" as much as possible without having to make calls to system ram (which brings a really really small performance penalty) but in general there's barely difference to be seen. And often such GPU's that do have 8GB ram vs a brother 16GB does not offer anything more in regards of performance.

I have yet to find a game that can tax the full 12GB on my 6700XT which is intended for 1440p.

 

[john_]

Example? That sounds more like a bad (ported) game rather then one being optmized. Many people seem to forget that allocating VRAM vs actually using it are two whole different things.

Yes you can "cache" as much as possible without having to make calls to system ram (which brings a really really small performance penalty) but in general there's barely difference to be seen. And often such GPU's that do have 8GB ram vs a brother 16GB does not offer anything more in regards of performance.

I have yet to find a game that can tax the full 12GB on my 6700XT which is intended for 1440p.

There are plenty of videos online that compare 8GB and 16GB cards side by side in some games where the 8GB cards have huge framerate drops. There are plenty of videos that show that with 8GB VRAM some games don't load all the textures or use lower quality textures. Those videos run for years on Youtube, they are not something new.

We are talking about unoptimize games all the time the last few (many?) years. We can't ignore the fact of games getting realeased unoptimized when talking about the limitations of having 8GB VRAM and at the same time advertise DLSS as the absolute cure in all these cases where a new AAA game ends up an unoptimized mess.

8GB VRAM
"The game is not optimized, blame the developer not the limited VRAM"
"The game is not optimized, just enable DLSS and enjoy smooth framerates".

Double standards?

While caching the full VRAM is a thing, it's not always the case. In fact many games just need as minimum 8GB VRAM. We can't say "Oh, it's just caching data" everytime we see the 8GB VRAM constantly at full use. That's like choosing to close our eyes because it's more convenient that way.

12GBs is something different than 8GBs. And we have to start getting away from the 1080p resolution. We can't keep saying for years and years to come that $400+ graphics cards in 2025 target the 1080p resolution. I was at 1080p 15 years ago when I got my first 32'' 1080p TV to use as a PC monitor. And even before that I was at 1600x1200@85Hz in my 19'' CRT monitor. In a period of 12 years I jumped from 1024x768@75Hz to 1080p@60Hz and 14 years latter we are still talking about 1080p? And even if we talk about 1080p, people who are still there usually run monitors with 120Hz or higher refresh rate, not 60Hz. So they need higher framerates, they need more VRAM they don't want to see framerates dropping from 100 to 30, even for a second, because of lack of VRAM.

 

[Jism]

Well not going to weave through a dozen of video's about it. I just don't believe 8GB is no longer sufficient as with most of the games they are just horrible optimized. They can do it for consoles, that often have far less VRAM available.

1440P is still sufficient for 8GB. It makes no sense to slap 16GB or more on cards now that are not even capable of running 1440p or even 4K. So now Nvidia is charging pretty much more then 60USD for a increase in VRAM. Is that what you want then? I bet there's barely any difference in 8GB vs 16GB. @W1zzard Your opinion?

 

[TSiAhmat]

Well not going to weave through a dozen of video's about it. I just don't believe 8GB is no longer sufficient as with most of the games they are just horrible optimized. They can do it for consoles, that often have far less VRAM available.

1440P is still sufficient for 8GB. It makes no sense to slap 16GB or more on cards now that are not even capable of running 1440p or even 4K. So now Nvidia is charging pretty much more then 60USD for a increase in VRAM. Is that what you want then? I bet there's barely any difference in 8GB vs 16GB. @W1zzard Your opinion?

most Consoles have 16 GBs of Vram and it shouldn't take too long for the next gen (xboxxx & ps6)

 

[Jism]

Is that not Unified RAM? Meaning the SOC and GPU can use the RAM?

 

[TSiAhmat]

Is that not Unified RAM? Meaning the SOC and GPU can use the RAM?

I think it is, apparently 10gbs of fast memory & and 6gbs of slower memory on the series X. The OS shouldn't take more than 2.5 ~ 3 Gbs of the slower memory so it still leaves around 13 gbs for the game.

But it is a console, so very heavily optimized & I've heard developers hate the existence of the series S with 10 GB Vram (not sure if the vram is the problem tho)

 

[W1zzard]

Your opinion?

I have an 8 GB 5060 Ti coming for full testing. But I'm sure you will have to make compromises with an 8 GB card, i.e dial down textures one notch, or use higher upscaling levels (which lower resolution = VRAM usage), which might be ok, considering the cost savings

 

[john_]

Well not going to weave through a dozen of video's about it. I just don't believe 8GB is no longer sufficient as with most of the games they are just horrible optimized. They can do it for consoles, that often have far less VRAM available.

1440P is still sufficient for 8GB. It makes no sense to slap 16GB or more on cards now that are not even capable of running 1440p or even 4K. So now Nvidia is charging pretty much more then 60USD for a increase in VRAM. Is that what you want then? I bet there's barely any difference in 8GB vs 16GB. @W1zzard Your opinion?

I wasn't expecting you to do, that's why I didn't wasted my time in finding and giving you some examples.
There are so many videos online about the subject, that only someone not wanting to know about it, wouldn't manage to find any.

Consoles are way more optimized and settings there are preconfigured based on console VRAM. In PCs people have the settings at their disposal and combined with the fact that games are less optimized, because of the huge variation of hardware set ups, games will pass that 8GB VRAM limit more often.

8GB is OK for games that don't need much VRAM at 1080p, like older games or games with simpler graphics. While cards at sub $400 are usually not very powerful, they are more powerful than in the past, which means that they can play those older games at higher resolutions, like 1440p and 4K. So, why limit ourselves at 1080p when we have 1440p or 4K screens, probably at 100Hz or more? Why play the game of AMD or Nvidia? We should ask for more VRAM, that could at least offer us the opportunity of playing older AAA games at 4K with most settings at high. We shouldn't defend the 8GB VRAM options at $400, especially when we are talking about $400 or over. RX 580 with 8GB VRAM was selling for $150 in the past and now an 8GB card asks for $400, and we are going to defend it? I say no. I will in fact prefer this time to support Intel's 10GB and 12GB cards at sub $250 MSRP(but not so real pricing as everything) instead of AMD's or Nvidia's 8GB VRAM, much more expensive options in 2025.

 

[Jism]

I have an 8 GB 5060 Ti coming for full testing. But I'm sure you will have to make compromises with an 8 GB card, i.e dial down textures one notch, or use higher upscaling levels (which lower resolution = VRAM usage), which might be ok, considering the cost savings

Yep; and i don't think you'll see a magnitude of difference when dialing these textures down.

I think i tested this back on Doom eternal one day; maxed out on a RX580 which shows barely difference to what was considered standard settings. Nice i got 7.5GB taxed out of VRAM, but visually no difference when running at 4GB.

Thing is Nvidia is charging more then 60$ for a upgraded VRAM card. It starts to sound like Apple that does charge 100$ for the Double storaged Iphone now.

 

[Prima.Vera]

Question GTX 1080 -8GB or this 5060-ti -8GB ?

 

[Deleted member 187435]

I think it is, apparently 10gbs of fast memory & and 6gbs of slower memory on the series X. The OS shouldn't take more than 2.5 ~ 3 Gbs of the slower memory so it still leaves around 13 gbs for the game.

But it is a console, so very heavily optimized & I've heard developers hate the existence of the series S with 10 GB Vram (not sure if the vram is the problem tho)

Series S has split memory, 8GB @ 224GB/s and 2GB @ 56GB/s. You can certainly see why devs aren't a fan of it.

 

[Krit]

love this arc of nvidia digging their graves deeper and deeper with gamers

From me they already lost 3 gpus in last 2 years. Not buying nvidia only because of bad pricing tactics. nvidia 7-10 years ago was so much better company than now...... Then nvidia was straight up better than AMD but now.....

 

[3x0]

Overpriced? You been in a coma the last 5 years?

Have the salaries increased over those last 5 years proportionally compared to price increases of everything? No? Then luxury items like a middling midrange card aren't on anyone's purchase list.

 

[Krit]

8GB is dead in the water. I just witnessed nearly 9GB in warzone and they will grow over time. Why can't they stitch 192 bits, it's not that small a chip.

The main issue is not the VRAM amount but pricing look at ARC B580 specs and look at nvidia specs (intel is more expensive to produce but in reality it's cheaper)

RTX 5060 8GB should cost no more than 250$ (It's decent for old games but not for new ones)

RTX 5060 128-bit 8GB Die Size 181 mm² 300$
RTX 5060 Ti 128bit 8GB Die Size 181 mm² 380$
ARC B570 160-bit 10GB Die Size 272 mm² 220$
ARC B580 192-bit 12GB Die Size 272 mm² 250$