Microsoft Forces Automatic Windows 11 24H2 Update on Pro and Home PCs

[capdauntless]

Just successfully moved my parents off Windows completely. Both are running Linux on their laptops and are happy as could be. All my systems (and I have several) are on Linux now as well apart from a single windows machine for support reasons.

I get the pull of staying on Windows, especially for gaming but I've gotten to a point now, if the game doesnt run on Linux, I dont wanna play it.

 

[rv8000]

Forced updates are bad yes, but how do people have so many issues with w11? It’s like people have never experienced using different adobe suite programs and realizing the same tool function does a completely different thing in ps vs illustrator, now that’s some dumb software. In the last 3+ years between w10 at work and w11 at home, I’ve not had a single windows related issue even with bad updates floating around.

 

[DaemonForce]

I get the pull of staying on Windows, especially for gaming but I've gotten to a point now, if the game doesnt run on Linux, I dont wanna play it.

Actually pretty based. I tend to hear calls for kernel level anti-cheat, which we do NOT need anywhere.
It's just devs being dumb with a revolving door problem when the solution has been never trust the client.
If I have to go through a whole bunch of setup to play a game that is even semi-enjoyable, it's not worth it.
I will never be forced into some Win11 update package just to keep my game library. That is not the mission.

Good luck to every terminally online scrub that needs their computer to JUST WORK or they're out of a job.
For a ton of normies that is literally GG no RE. Why does it sound like we've been here before? Because we have.
Guess Microsoft wants to start playing keepaway with their own marketshare/mindshare.
Each passing day in the nerd spaces, so many names are dumping Windows for linux and FAST.
I'll still be sticking around on some kind of Windows Server for production infra but I might dip in too.

 

[Dr. Dro]

I've returned to Windows 10. I'm very unhappy with the state of Windows 11 right now. Hoping that the next milestone release focuses on stabiity and workflow cohesion.

 

[otieze]

oh good ppl of earth.. JUST USE LINUX !!

 

[Onasi]

I've returned to Windows 10. I'm very unhappy with the state of Windows 11 right now. Hoping that the next milestone release focuses on stabiity and workflow cohesion.

I have thought about it too and did move some work PCs back to 10 for now, but personal PC has been on 11 since RTM and I am sticking with it. Any annoyances I have are irrelevant in the face of the fact that dread it, run from it, doesn’t matter, 11 will soon be the only one with mainstream support and I don’t really have as much issues with it as some others. Hell, I am someone who jumped on 24H2 day one, without a clean install, just an upgrade, and I had absolutely no issues specific to it.

 

[Dr. Dro]

I have thought about it too and did move some work PCs back to 10 for now, but personal PC has been on 11 since RTM and I am sticking with it. Any annoyances I have are irrelevant in the face of the fact that dread it, run from it, doesn’t matter, 11 will soon be the only one with mainstream support and I don’t really have as much issues with it as some others. Hell, I am someone who jumped on 24H2 day one, without a clean install, just an upgrade, and I had absolutely no issues specific to it.

Can't afford to have it act up in any manner, using my machines for business right now.

 

[mtosev]

Nice. I'm currently running 23H2 on my main desktop.

 

[Chomiq]

Can't afford to have it act up in any manner, using my machines for business right now.

Together with 2 other colleagues we're in a project that requires GlobalProtect VPN for system access. My work laptop is on W10 Pro, they're on W11. Guess which system has random problems accessing the VPN due to not meeting the anti-malware protection requirements?

Hint:
It's not the one that reaches end of support in October this year.

This sh!t costs companies serious money.

 

[AGlezB]

@AleksandarK the quick poll is missing a "11??? I'll keep using 10 'till the end of days (or 12)!!!" option (voiced in my head by John Cleese) .

 

[Paganstomp]

what they mean is...

 

[W3RN3R]

I have thought about it too and did move some work PCs back to 10 for now, but personal PC has been on 11 since RTM and I am sticking with it. Any annoyances I have are irrelevant in the face of the fact that dread it, run from it, doesn’t matter, 11 will soon be the only one with mainstream support and I don’t really have as much issues with it as some others. Hell, I am someone who jumped on 24H2 day one, without a clean install, just an upgrade, and I had absolutely no issues specific to it.

Yeah been using win11 since December 2023, i also installed 24h2 on release day, no issues, seems people just like pissing on win11 just because, for me it's a better experience overall.

 

[Calmmo]

Wonder if they fixed the issue with certain usb controllers not working on 24h2. My z790 had that issue, couldn't use any external storage/tablet/mobile device nor audio my interface.

MS probably : This is fine.

 

[_roman_]

I like those post: I do not have an issue with XY. Therefore any other people having issues is not valid. I shared plenty of text and screenshots on the software quality of windows 11 pro.

Maybe the windows 11 home version works better.

I'm sure when I look for it, I'll find a new windows 11 pro bug in less than 2 hours which I did not knew it exists before.

I suggest use google translate and read all those windows 11 has issues news posts on pcgameshardware.de. I have the feeling i read at least two posts average per month there. Warning lots of ads. Warning lots of semi news posts there. Most windows 11 has issues topics were not clickbait in the past year.

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of course people will change to the linux kernel with gnu userspace. I highly doubt. You need patience. You need reading capabilities.

People should be aware of the time spend for fixing windows 11 or to get stuff ready with the windows 11 upgrade.
I did not want to learn windows vista and spend two weeks in 2006 to install something else. I did not reinstall since 2006 this operating system where i just write from. Moving the data storage or upgrading components is something I have to do anyway regardless of which software I run, freebsd, apple macos, windows, ...

Windows 11 needs a lot of time to get it ready for work / production. Do not forget what time you will waste when you are still on windows 7 or 8 or 10.

What is your backup plan when your operating system does not work as it should? Do you have full backups of your system? I need 15 minutes to restore my full drive after the hardware swap for the data storage.

 

[Onasi]

I like those post: I do not have an issue with XY. Therefore any other people having issues is not valid. I shared plenty of text and screenshots on the software quality of windows 11 pro.

Literally nobody said that phrase. You are fighting windmills. MS themselves acknowledge several issue with 24H2 in their bulletins. But a lot of issues are specific to PC configurations and OS configurations and people may or may not encounter them.

I'm sure when I look for it, I'll find a new windows 11 pro bug in less than 2 hours which I did not knew it exists before.

That’s not how bug hunting works. Unless it’s a reproducible and sustained issue on ALL relevant configurations it’s almost impossible to fully diagnose and fix. And the majority of such issues ARE laid out by MS already. And no, random forum or Reddit posts about how someone has some issue on their specific config/OS installation does not proper information make. It never did.

of course people will change to the linux kernel with gnu userspace. I highly doubt. You need patience. You need reading capabilities.

Saying this and then following up with:

Windows 11 needs a lot of time to get it ready for work / production. Do not forget what time you will waste when you are still on windows 7 or 8 or 10.

is funny. No, the main problem for most non-normie PC users with Linux isn’t “reading is hard”. It’s the fact that a lot of serious software just isn’t supported. Good luck running the Adobe suite or, frankly, a lot of scientific software on Linux. As for Windows 11, no, no time is really needed. For anything that must be robust the 24H2 LTSC IoT is rock solid already.

What is your backup plan when your operating system does not work as it should? Do you have full backups of your system? I need 15 minutes to restore my full drive after the hardware swap for the data storage.

Modern Windows is, in fact, incredibly resilient and even protects itself from borked updates. The chances that you would unironically need a restore from backup for the case (and this is important) that OS itself screws itself up is incredibly slim. This isn’t to diminish importance of backups, but actually fucking up a Windows install nowadays is VERY hard.

 

[theglaze]

I like those post: I do not have an issue with XY. Therefore any other people having issues is not valid.

Just because you have issues, doesn't mean everyone has issues

 

[Steevo]

Idk, I went to upgrade(i5 10400F) to win 11 so i could have dx12 functionality and the install told me incompatible hardware . Maybe I'll try again this weekend, been almost a year since.

I thought it was odd. I remember thinking "I know it's not Alder Lake, but damn they're getting restrictive".

Run msinfo32 from a admin enabled cmd window and look at PCR7 Configuration and also see if encryption/DMA security is possible. If not there will be events showing what hardware is causing the issue. By "causing the issue" I also mean F MS for being trash.

 

[SirB]

I find it hilarious they respect the gaming industry enough to not conflict with easy anti-cheat, but if consumers don't want it too bad. I wonder if people like me with incompatible hardware for win11(10th gen intel) will still have it occupy storage space.

Your mother board doesn't support W11 Due to missing TPM module. nothing to do with the CPU.

 

[AsRock]

It's how Win10 always upgraded to 11.

Disabling TPM in the bios solves the problem as it will see a incompatible system.

 

[Steevo]

Your mother board doesn't support W11 Due to missing TPM module. nothing to do with the CPU.

What board is it?

 

[mikesg]

It guarantees a class-action lawsuit against them if users cannot stay on Windows 11 23H2, the last version that supports Windows Mixed Reality...

It's illegal to disable a product or means of using it, after it's been physically bought.

 

[phints]

Why would anyone NOT be updated to 24H2 by now, in improved performance on my PC across the board. 25H2 is around the corner what is the hold up here.

 

[avidgamer121]

I've returned to Windows 10. I'm very unhappy with the state of Windows 11 right now. Hoping that the next milestone release focuses on stabiity and workflow cohesion.

i have given windows 11 atleast 5-7 tries and never found it worthwhile

 

[lexluthermiester]

i have given windows 11 atleast 5-7 tries and never found it worthwhile

Did you debloat it? After debloating and slimming down, it's really good.

 

[avidgamer121]

Did you debloat it? After debloating and slimming down, it's really good.

didn't want to admit it but i use a custom lite version iso of both windows 10 & 11, it has most of the crap removed. RAM usage is a bit on the higher side and sometimes randomly windows modules installer becomes active in background which i found pretty annoying.