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[AusWolf]

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I don't have much use of a Canadian shop. Not to mention, these are expensive "gaming" models, exactly the stuff A620 shouldn't be.

 

[blinnbanir]

I don't have much use of a Canadian shop. Not to mention, these are expensive "gaming" models, exactly the stuff A620 shouldn't be.

You have not been looking at Mini ITX very long then. Though common sense dictates that a Mini ITX board should be cheaper than a Micro ATX it is not the case. The boards I listed are actually about $100 cheaper than a few years ago. PC parts in general are much more expensive though so these look even more attractive.

The 8500G is just a mobile chip put on AM5. The sad thing is, there is no other way to get the Zen4c cores on AM5.
For the targeted mobile market, the 8500G chip is a good balance.
I would estimate the Radeon 740 iGPU is around the 5600G iGPU performance. I have to look at my 3d mark benchmarks.

When I looked the 8600G was $20 more than the 8500G.

 

[AusWolf]

You have not been looking at Mini ITX very long then.

None of the UK's major PC hardware retailers have any m-ITX A620 motherboards. How much longer do you want me to look?

 

[blinnbanir]

None of the UK's major PC hardware retailers have any m-ITX A620 motherboards. How much longer do you want me to look?

Could come down to market Dynamics. There may be the fact that more of these boards were sold in the UK vs Canada. It is not like A620 is new.

 

[AusWolf]

Could come down to market Dynamics. There may be the fact that more of these boards were sold in the UK vs Canada. It is not like A620 is new.

I don't just mean stock. I mean, they're not even listed. "A620 m-ITX" doesn't even appear in the menu, and searching for it gives 0 results. There's plenty of m-ATX ones, only that I need m-ITX.

 

[Wirko]

I don't just mean stock. I mean, they're not even listed. "A620 m-ITX" doesn't even appear in the menu, and searching for it gives 0 results. There's plenty of m-ATX ones, only that I need m-ITX.

You can find some options here:

Motherboards AMD Socket AM5 with Form factor: Mini-ITX Price Comparison Skinflint UK

compare prices and read user reviews for Motherboards AMD Socket AM5 with Form factor: Mini-ITX

skinflint.co.uk

You can also check the "Germany" checkbox and see offers from German retailers that deliver to the UK. There's some chouce but prices sure aren't where you want them to be.

 

[AusWolf]

You can find some options here:

Motherboards AMD Socket AM5 with Form factor: Mini-ITX Price Comparison Skinflint UK

compare prices and read user reviews for Motherboards AMD Socket AM5 with Form factor: Mini-ITX

skinflint.co.uk

You can also check the "Germany" checkbox and see offers from German retailers that deliver to the UK. There's some chouce but prices sure aren't where you want them to be.

Never heard of this site. I'll have a look, thanks.

 

[Wirko]

Never heard of this site. I'll have a look, thanks.

It's the British version of the German (and originally Austrian) site geizhals.eu, which is often referred to in these forums. Each site only lists items available in the respective country, from sellers located in several countries (Netherlands used to be among them but I don't see it anymore).

 

[Dr. Dro]

You have not been looking at Mini ITX very long then. Though common sense dictates that a Mini ITX board should be cheaper than a Micro ATX it is not the case. The boards I listed are actually about $100 cheaper than a few years ago. PC parts in general are much more expensive though so these look even more attractive.

Not necessarily, micro ATX should in fact be some of the cheapest designs to manufacture as tolerances are high and the target market is, most of the time, not as demanding. Most mini ITX boards, even those who aren't designed with high performance in mind, need higher quality components to withstand the physical constraints, which drives prices up.

 

[blinnbanir]

Not necessarily, micro ATX should in fact be some of the cheapest designs to manufacture as tolerances are high and the target market is, most of the time, not as demanding. Most mini ITX boards, even those who aren't designed with high performance in mind, need higher quality components to withstand the physical constraints, which drives prices up.

Higher quality components? Like what VRM ok. That does not mean that the M2 slot is better or the single PCiex16 slot is better. Outside of Memory being better it is down to board design than any thing else. There is no other separation. Regardless of what some may think the cheapest Micro ATx board will blow away any Mini Itx in terms of flexibility. I am still wondering about the Physical constraints you mention when there is less material being used. For me it is a Cash Grab and nothing more

 

[Dr. Dro]

Higher quality components? Like what VRM ok. That does not mean that the M2 slot is better or the single PCiex16 slot is better. Outside of Memory being better it is down to board design than any thing else. There is no other separation. Regardless of what some may think the cheapest Micro ATx board will blow away any Mini Itx in terms of flexibility. I am still wondering about the Physical constraints you mention when there is less material being used. For me it is a Cash Grab and nothing more

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That AYW seems like a pretty good deal, solid midranger motherboard. ROG is overpriced, we all know that. But that B650E-I is not outside of the usual price range and is the one that is closer to the X870 non-E in nature. It contains quite a few extras compared to the AYW and as such, price is justified. Paying twice as much for the X870-I isn't worth it in this case.

 

[Apocalypsee]

ITX is a niche market so they cost a bit more, it always like that. I usually found ASRock that makes ITX using mainstream or budget chipset, like this A620I Lightning WiFi

https://pg.asrock.com/mb/AMD/A620I%20Lightning%20WiFi/index.asp

Gigabyte makes one too, A620I AX

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But availability of the product is questionable. I can find Gigabyte board at my place, but you can buy a good B650 motherboard for the price. But having budget ITX coupled with strong APU is appealing, the spare x16 PCIe can be used for something else other than graphics