Nintendo Confirms that Switch 2 Will Not Support VRR in Docked TV Mode

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Not long after Nintendo's comprehensive Switch 2 showcase, official product descriptions were edited. The removal of Variable Refresh Rate (VRR) support for TVs (in docked mode) from official websites proved to be highly confusing. At the time (around mid-April), the company did not release any explanatory material. Industry watchdogs anticipated a future firmware update, that would eventually restore docked mode VRR capabilities (over HDMI). In the meantime, the hybrid console's surprisingly capable integrated display would provide the only gateway into VRR-elevated gaming experiences—courtesy of NVIDIA G-SYNC tech. Late last week, Nintendo Life shared an official update—sourced from a company spokesperson: "Nintendo Switch 2 supports VRR in handheld mode only. The incorrect information was initially published on the Nintendo Switch 2 website, and we apologize for the error."

It is not clear why it has taken over a month to provide clarification, but the online publication did send in a query. When asked about a possible post-release fix, the Nintendo representative replied with a curt answer: "we have nothing to announce on this topic." Last week, the Digital Foundry team surmised that the much-anticipated Switch successor would not launch with a previously advertised feature. Commenting on this missing spec point, Richard Leadbetter elaborated: "something that is important to clarify is that as far as Switch 2 developers are concerned, VRR is indeed a function of the internal display only and that there is no support at all right now for VRR over HDMI...The best theory we have for this is that the dock's DisplayPort to HDMI converter doesn't support standard HDMI VRR, but whatever is the cause, we would hope to see Nintendo provide some sort of solution in due course."



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[bonehead123]

Gimpy, skimpy & whimpy...aka nOntendy, strikes again, hahahaha

 

[lexluthermiester]

Gimpy, skimpy & whimpy...aka nOntendy, strikes again, hahahaha

Is this a troll on Nintendo? On TPU? On the rest of us? Seriously, what the hell was that?

 

[Kwadratowicz]

Is this a troll on Nintendo? On TPU? On the rest of us? Seriously, what the hell was that?

I think that He is talking about all the stuff Nintendo has done in the last few weeks, that was like what the hell, why would they do that, You do not own Yours console, You are just consumer, and we can Ban not brick Your device if we think that there was suspicious activities on Your console.
EDIT Not brick, only ban console is correct.
But it may be just my translation .

 

[lexluthermiester]

You do not own Yours console, You are just consumer, and we can brick Your device if we think that there was suspicious activities on Your console.

That's not what they've said, and that's not what they can or will do. Such activities are EXTREMELY unlawful. Sony and microsoft tried it for a very short time and got, quietly, bitch-slapped for it. So instead they just ban a console from online play. Normal games still run offline. If Nintendo tried this crap again, they'll get a bunch of big feet lodged firmly up their bum. It will hurt and their legal eagles will not help them.

 

[Kwadratowicz]

@lexluthermiester
Yes You are right my bad. (stupid shitty clickbait sites).

 

[dir_d]

That's not what they've said, and that's not what they can or will do. Such activities are EXTREMELY unlawful. Sony and microsoft tried it for a very short time and got, quietly, bitch-slapped for it. So instead they just ban a console from online play. Normal games still run offline. If Nintendo tried this crap again, they'll get a bunch of big feet lodged firmly up their bum. It will hurt and their legal eagles will not help them.

They did update their TOS to include bricking consoles if they assume your are doing something nefarious.

 

[Kwadratowicz]

IGN has some statements from the eula or something like that from nintento https://www.ign.com/articles/ninten...tendo-reserves-the-right-to-brick-your-switch
"You acknowledge that if you fail to comply with the foregoing restrictions Nintendo may render the Nintendo Account Services and/or the applicable Nintendo device permanently unusable in whole or in part."
and if it's true it's stupid. and for now it's US and UK.

 

[lexluthermiester]

They did update their TOS to include bricking consoles if they assume your are doing something nefarious.

Without due process, such activities are not at all lawful and as such any of those types of policies are blatantly unlawful and violate citizen statutory rights that can not be contractually waived. Nintendo will not be pulling this crap without severe penalties. If they do, class actions will be the result and will be harsh.

 

[dir_d]

Without due process, such activities are not at all lawful and as such any of those types of policies are blatantly unlawful and violate citizen statutory rights that can not be contractually waived. Nintendo will not be pulling this crap without severe penalties. If they do, class actions will be the result and will be harsh.

They also included in the TOS that you waive the right to a trial and to use their arbitration only. I don't think this TOS made it to the EU and is only used in the US for now.

 

[lexluthermiester]

They also included in the TOS that you waive the right to a trial and to use their arbitration only.

That is tenuous at best. We'll leave it at that.

I don't think this TOS made it to the EU and is only used in the US for now.

Yeah, it's acceptable here either. But it's also a topic of conversation we're not getting into here.

 

[slyphnier]

They also included in the TOS that you waive the right to a trial and to use their arbitration only. I don't think this TOS made it to the EU and is only used in the US for now.

by the time TOS released by them, then they at least consulting with their law-firms , no?
and also isnt it needed to be reviewed by goverment (compliance with federal laws)?

i dont think they blindly make TOS whatever they like and get major class actions after

 

[blinnbanir]

LMAO Nintendo refused to pay the Gysnc premium.

 

[R-T-B]

Without due process, such activities are not at all lawful and as such any of those types of policies are blatantly unlawful and violate citizen statutory rights that can not be contractually waived. Nintendo will not be pulling this crap without severe penalties. If they do, class actions will be the result and will be harsh.

Someone needa to tell that to locked bootloader vendors, honestly.

As for the article it's probably just thar VRR as a spec in TV land is a weird spec minefield.

 

[TheinsanegamerN]

Without due process, such activities are not at all lawful and as such any of those types of policies are blatantly unlawful and violate citizen statutory rights that can not be contractually waived. Nintendo will not be pulling this crap without severe penalties. If they do, class actions will be the result and will be harsh.

Being unlawful is great and all, but unless said laws are enforced you may as well go yell at clouds.

I think that He is talking about all the stuff Nintendo has done in the last few weeks, that was like what the hell, why would they do that, You do not own Yours console, You are just consumer, and we can Ban not brick Your device if we think that there was suspicious activities on Your console.
EDIT Not brick, only ban console is correct.
But it may be just my translation .

Aside fromt he rampant price greed, the thing that got me was having to PAY for the switch 2 upgrades. Like, me buying your overpriced Android tablet wasn't enough, buying your games that make literal billions wasnt enough, now I gotta pay to upgrade my games on your system?

Absolute absurdity. I hope the switch 2 gets the 3ds treatment.

 

[ir_cow]

How did NVIDIA mess this up so badly? VRR is been out for ages now.

 

[MrMilli]

As far as I know, nVidia only supports VRR over HDMI 2.1 and the T239 in the Switch doesn't have HDMI 2.1.

 

[Upgrayedd]

As far as I know, nVidia only supports VRR over HDMI 2.1 and the T239 in the Switch doesn't have HDMI 2.1.

Nvidia has a gsync list of displays with how they support it and which drivers introduced support for it. GSync hardware has been around since DP 1.2. Display Port 1.4 is the most common to support it.

 

[mrnagant]

As far as I know, nVidia only supports VRR over HDMI 2.1 and the T239 in the Switch doesn't have HDMI 2.1.

It wouldn't surprise me if one of those aftermarket portable display dongles ends up supporting VRR output. Hopefully Nintendo only cheaped out on the HDMI port on the dock, and not on the output capabilities of the USB-C port.

 

[MrMilli]

Nvidia has a gsync list of displays with how they support it and which drivers introduced support for it. GSync hardware has been around since DP 1.2. Display Port 1.4 is the most common to support it.

I was talking HDMI specifically.

 

[alawadhi3000]

As far as I know, nVidia only supports VRR over HDMI 2.1 and the T239 in the Switch doesn't have HDMI 2.1.

No, my LG C9 had VRR even on HDMI 2.0.

 

[Upgrayedd]

I was talking HDMI specifically.

Ohh true true. It would be used with HDMI and not DP. Idk what I was thinking, just about gsync I guess.

 

[MrMilli]

No, my LG C9 had VRR even on HDMI 2.0.

I said specifically nVidia for a reason

 

[alawadhi3000]

I said specifically nVidia for a reason

VRR support in 2019 on HDMI 2.0 came officially from NVIDIA buddy.

 

[MrMilli]

VRR support in 2019 on HDMI 2.0 came officially from NVIDIA buddy.

You're right. GTX 16- and RTX 20 support VRR on a HDMI 2.1 screen. Though a max refresh of 60Hz @ 4K will still be an issue.

But after some thinking, I've been approaching this all wrong. Nintendo probably doesn't even use nVidia's HDMI output, so never mind.