NVIDIA Issues vBIOS Update to Fix RTX 5060 (Ti) Reboot Black Screens

[PixelTech]

Graphics driver was a very a real problem for me with the 5090 FE before when Overwatch 2 would crash every time I launched it, unplayable, and every game of Fortnite battle royale it would crash randomly during the match. But with current drivers that doesn't happen now.
There's still some issue with using multi monitors.
Might be just my card, but certain web pages glitch out with a static rectangle in the bottom center.
No missing ROPs.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

People keep saying that but I actually had less driver overhead on my 3090ti, though AMD has certainly improved I still don't buy that they are "better" in that way. A more realistic way to phrase this, is both AMD and NVIDIA are acceptable now, and Intel has a ways to go.

tl;dr, there's nothing to fix.

Sure......


and yes, before the goalpost is moved again, yes, it is a 4 years old video, but it was a quick search result and I am sure there are more recent ones.

anyways....

And maybe throw in an apology or something?

Ngreedia admitting that they are wrong and made a mistake?

what kind of blasphemy is this?!?!?!

 

[Bomby569]

this shit has absolutely came full circle.

Like when real people had constant real problems with AMD drivers there were also some idiots claiming it was not relevant, only a few people had them, the anectdotical "mine is fine", bla bla bla... Even when AMD had constant disclaimers on the drivers about fixing those problems (they never did but hey...)

Now we get the same stupid speech from the other side. Damn, tech nerds are annoying idiots. FFS

 

[Hecate91]

Aren't you beginning to imagine that this is a hardware defect? It seems to me that software is being used as a means to mitigate it, but at the end of the day it is incapable of correcting it completely.

It has to be more than a software bug at this point, as every Blackwell gpu has had black screen and crashing issues.

Ngreedia admitting that they are wrong and made a mistake?

what kind of blasphemy is this?!?!?!

No, we're supposed to be thankful for Nvidia even making consumer gpu's. /s

 

[JustBenching]

this shit has absolutely came full circle.

Like when real people had constant real problems with AMD drivers there were also some idiots claiming it was not relevant, only a few people had them, the anectdotical "mine is fine", bla bla bla... Even when AMD had constant disclaimers on the drivers about fixing those problems (they never did but hey...)

Now we get the same stupid speech from the other side. Damn, tech nerds are annoying idiots. FFS

No, not at all equivalent. If i go into an amd thread and claim there is a bug with a driver or something its because I - personally - with my amd gpu encountered the issue. On the other hand - in nvidia threads - the majority of the crapposts are from people that never had, do not have and are not going to ever have an nvidia gpu cause according to their own words they "hate the company". Please, do not equate the 2.

 

[RejZoR]

Same here, although i got a 40 series cards. I feel like im either neo from matrix dodging bugs like bullets or people are exaggerating


Nvidia has the majority sales in consoles as well. And the new switch isnt even out yet..

Well, my RTX 3080 black screened 3 consecutive driver updates. Update as usual and screen goes blank during update and never recovered. I had to forcibly reset system.

 

[R-T-B]

this shit has absolutely came full circle.

Like when real people had constant real problems with AMD drivers there were also some idiots claiming it was not relevant, only a few people had them, the anectdotical "mine is fine", bla bla bla... Even when AMD had constant disclaimers on the drivers about fixing those problems (they never did but hey...)

Now we get the same stupid speech from the other side. Damn, tech nerds are annoying idiots. FFS

I'll just point out its not all tech nerds. But there certainly exists a vocal breed of them.

 

[Tek-Check]

Yet you rarely see anyone nailing them to the cross in the same way that they all did and are still doing to AMD.

There is no evidence of this. One could invent any narrative they want to. Impossible to prove the point. Give up on this one.

I mean, ask anywhere which company STILL has bad drivers and they all will respond AMD.

"Anyone"? Right... You can't even define the word in this context.

How many RDNA4 gpus you saw listed at the last Steam Hardware Survey and how many Ngreedia 5000 series?

If you do primary school math on current market share, you will now that Nvidia cards would appear on Steam earlier. And then you wil say: "Oh,...I see"

Yeah, they are still selling like crazy.

'Crazy' is an emotive word, indeed.

 

[AusWolf]

It's just the expected reaction when there's an opportunity to dunk on Nvidia, a few here have their entire personality wrapped up in that. Understanding the details and applying logic are not required.

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Yep, if you say anything against Nvidia, you're an AMD fan, and if you say anything against AMD, you're an Nvidia fan. And fans don't know shit, that's obvious. That's it, every single topic is concluded, issues don't exist, no more threads needed, we can close TPU now. Thanks everyone for coming. See 'ya.

 

[Bomby569]

AMD and Nvidia both acknowledged the issues in their driver releases, so this is just stupid people being stupid. It becomes more evident now that it's not a AMD problem anymore.
It's not a fanboy issue, not about AMD or Nvidia, it's a general tech nerd idiocy problem. I'm sorry but it's the truth.

Unfortunately there is no known cure for stupid.

 

[AusWolf]

AMD and Nvidia both acknowledged the issues in their driver releases, so this is just stupid people being stupid. It becomes more evident now that it's not a AMD problem anymore.
It's not a fanboy issue, not about AMD or Nvidia, it's a general tech nerd idiocy problem. I'm sorry but it's the truth.

Unfortunately there is no known cure for stupid.

Exactly. If there weren't any issues, we wouldn't need driver updates from any company. Or do people think that their WLAN adapters get driver updates because the new one is somehow better than the old one?

Or that the word hotfix actually means hot new feature?

 

[Bomby569]

Exactly. If there weren't any issues, we wouldn't need driver updates from any company. Or do people think that their WLAN adapters get driver updates because the new one is somehow better than the old one?

Or that the word hotfix actually means hot new feature?

AMD spelled out the issues (in the driver release notes) these morons said at the time didn't exist. The same is happening now with Nvidia.
I'm not sure these people should be allowed to use the internet without supervision, they are toxic.

 

[wolf]

Yep, if you say anything against Nvidia, you're an AMD fan, and if you say anything against AMD, you're an Nvidia fan. And fans don't know shit, that's obvious. That's it, every single topic is concluded, issues don't exist, no more threads needed, we can close TPU now. Thanks everyone for coming. See 'ya.

Your words, not mine, despite wording this in a way that makes it seem like it was the core of my point.

Not the first time it happened in this thread and might not be the last by the looks.

 

[AusWolf]

Your words, not mine, despite wording this in a way that makes it seem like it was the core of my point.

Not the first time it happened in this thread and might not be the last by the looks.

It's the core of your point, just with a different angle. Instead of pointing fingers at everyone who uses the word "issue" or "problem" and yell "AMD/Nvidia fan", maybe we should listen to each other and try to be constructive. What's a big booboo for me might not be one for you, and vice versa.

For example, you might remember me complaining that my TV doesn't do 4K 60 Hz full dynamic range with Nvidia GPUs, only with Intel or AMD. Is this an isolated problem not affecting 99.8% of users? Definitely. But it is an issue nonetheless, which will probably never be fixed, but is easily solved by using my Intel iGPU or any AMD GPU. Does this make me an AMD/Intel fan and the issue only a figment of my imagination? C'mon, let's be reasonable.

Like I said, if issues didn't exist, we wouldn't need driver updates, let alone hotfixes. This doesn't make anyone a fan of the opposite camp (and even if one is, that doesn't mitigate the problem).

 

[wolf]

It's the core of your point, just with a different angle

It's really not. There are individuals within this thread that are toxic fans (not you) with nothing constructive to add, and I pointed it out in a way that's typically me. I am not referring to anyone constructively taking part in the conversation about this update.

 

[AusWolf]

It's really not. There are individuals within this thread that are toxic fans (not you) with nothing constructive to add, and I pointed it out in a way that's typically me. I am not referring to anyone constructively taking part in the conversation about this update.

Possibly (I admit, I haven't read back too much, with the exact intent to avoid such comments).

Fanboyism is never good, but pointing it out won't solve the core of the issue which is human nature. When any area of life is dominated by two parties, most are inclined to choose one to support and one to hate. It's much easier to see the world in good and evil instead of various shades of colour. That's why dualities are always dangerous. They do away with nuance, which is an essential part of life, not to mention it forces one to pick sides instead of thinking outside the box. But that's just the American / new global thing, I guess. Coca-Cola vs Pepsi, Chevy vs Ford, Papa John's vs Domino's, etc. You don't even think you have a choice when you're only choosing between two options. It's wrong, but it's an easy way to control the masses.

Anyway, the other part of the issue is trying to fight the above by pointing it out every time one sees it. The problem with that is that it's easy to fall on the other side of the horse and see every point being made as an attack on the opposing party, which isn't necessarily the case. Issues do need to be pointed out (with the appropriate nuance of course), and people should be allowed to form opinions different from others without being labelled and their points dismissed purely on the basis of the above without evaluation. Finger pointing only leads to the loss of open and honest conversations.

 

[wolf]

Anyway

I'm quite comfortable with whom I assess to have balance and contribute to the discussions and those who don't, no matter where they fall on the... shall we say 'political' spectrum. Everyone has preferences and some bias and that's ok. I'll happily engage with the vast majority of people and overlook things to certain extents, or perhaps point out directly to them where I believe their bias weakens their discussion. You've seen me do that I'm sure.

Some people however, quite clearly are beyond good faith engagement, they drop disingenuous, provocative, sarcastic arguments (trolling/rage bait adjacent at a minimum) with no intention of good faith discussion or accepting other viewpoints as valid - they just want to dunk and be validated by other like minded individuals. And so to that, I have my own personal style of underlining it, and it's often through the rather concise and contemporary communication medium, memes. Am I perfect? nah, but it's my way to have fun with it.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

There is no evidence of this. One could invent any narrative they want to. Impossible to prove the point. Give up on this one.

"Anyone"? Right... You can't even define the word in this context.

If you do primary school math on current market share, you will now that Nvidia cards would appear on Steam earlier. And then you wil say: "Oh,...I see"

'Crazy' is an emotive word, indeed.

Ah yes, the "resort to insults" maneuver.

Not worth the effort.

Oh, hi wolf.

 

[Tek-Check]

Ah yes, the "resort to insults" maneuver.

Not worth the effort.

Oh, hi wolf.

The answer merely matches what you claimed.

 

[Ahhzz]

Whole lot of back and forth here. Stop it. Thanks!

 

[Rightness_1]

Aren't you beginning to imagine that this is a hardware defect? It seems to me that software is being used as a means to mitigate it, but at the end of the day it is incapable of correcting it completely.

I find it odd that it could be. The chip is the same as the 40x0 series, just with some extra cores, and a new video section thrown in. It's exactly the same architecture.

More likely is maybe NV is making use of A.I. in it's driver software.

 

[number201724]

Aren't you beginning to imagine that this is a hardware defect? It seems to me that software is being used as a means to mitigate it, but at the end of the day it is incapable of correcting it completely.

I can't say if it's a hardware defect, but I had a bad experience.
When I use 40 series graphics card for gpu passthrough it has no problem, when I use 50 series graphics card it has serious problem.
It will get stuck at PciBusInterface_GetBusData and loop forever in the driver.

 

[Rightness_1]

I can't say if it's a hardware defect, but I had a bad experience.
When I use 40 series graphics card for gpu passthrough it has no problem, when I use 50 series graphics card it has serious problem.
It will get stuck at PciBusInterface_GetBusData and loop forever in the driver.

I guess after the ROP incident, it is entirely possible that some other areas of the chip could be defective...