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Nintendo Seemingly Blocks Video Streaming Apps On Switch 2

Apple, Nintendo and Ngreedia are simply untouchables.

Their fans have no rhyme or reason nor logic to their acts and simply follow whatever those companies tell them do.

Specially if it does affects you.

Example, want to trigger an apple fanboi? Tell them that you want to have the option of sideloading apps on iOS devices.

I know, in the EU you have that, but the rest of the world doesn't have that option.
Apple and NVidia does Software and Hardware.
Nintendo makes games, and good one.
Not a Nintendo fanboi, but at least half of the fun I had from games this last 10 years comes from Nintendo.
 
I wonder how well the switch 2 will sell I know original switch owners who won't shift until their current switch breaks they just don't see anything that makes them go must but now. Start taking features away that the original had will only compound this.
 
Me, switch is awesome (after hardware unlock). Works as a tablet with a controller attached, can stream games from your PC, can browse the web, watch youtube, all at the smallest possible size and weight for a 7" device.
I just use a 10 meter HDMI cable to play PC games on my TV, which is routed away. And for browsing the web and watch YT i have a tablet, which can be used at the same time as playing a game.
 
Who actually uses anything from Nintendon't ?
I do. I have an NES(+mini), SFC(+SNESmini), GBA-SP, DSLite, Wii, 3DSXL, WiiU and Switch. So yeah, I'm a Nintendo guy. And even I'M on the fence about this new system. But not for the reasons subject of this article.

That's the thing. I just want a simple gaming system. Pop disk or cartridge in, turn on and play. If I want the streaming service, a cheap $50 walmart onn device works fantastic
Exactly. But you also likely already have a device of some sort you can use for that purpose.
 
It’s meant to play games, not watch henti.
You can do that on a Switch!? I might have to pick one up... not second-hand, of course...
Very mature.

News flash everyone, the Switch2 is a GAMING system! Want to watch video's? Turn on a PC, TV, tablet or phone. A lot of people never used the video streaming apps of the Wii/WiiU/Switch1.

TADA!
I bought a PS4 for the Blu-Rays ;)

Be mature when playing with your toys!
 
Are there any plus sides to owning a Nintendo? All I see is childish puzzle games and a hammer to hit you over the head with.
 
I remember the lack of Gamecube DVD to be rather glaring at launch and it may have hurt sales back then by quite a bit.

I think this is probably not an issue. It is something that is up to the streaming services to update the apps, which should be easy given the OS and system is very similar. Much like the Fortnite situation.

Are there any plus sides to owning a Nintendo? All I see is childish puzzle games and a hammer to hit you over the head with.

Yes, the last console I remember being so open to 3rd party hardware is the PS3. You can use whatever you like, not just crappy Nintendo controllers and they are also very well supported on Steam if you have a PC.

1. The online services are also rather cheap and storage too.
2. Games are small and microSD is about the cheapest you can get. Even PS4 the games are all massive, so eat space very quickly and take a long time to download.
3. There are some games cheaper than Steam, mostly for indie games.

Just yesterday was setting up a PS4 and boot a game disc. It wants to copy the disc and set up a 50GB update that takes 2h... This does not happen much on the Switch.  Put a cartridge in, in the next 5-10mins you are playing. But SW2 will be a bit more like current ones.
 
I remember the lack of Gamecube DVD to be rather glaring at launch and it may have hurt sales back then by quite a bit.

I think this is probably not an issue. It is something that is up to the streaming services to update the apps, which should be easy given the OS and system is very similar. Much like the Fortnite situation.



Yes, the last console I remember being so open to 3rd party hardware is the PS3. You can use whatever you like, not just crappy Nintendo controllers and they are also very well supported on Steam if you have a PC.

1. The online services are also rather cheap and storage too.
2. Games are small and microSD is about the cheapest you can get. Even PS4 the games are all massive, so eat space very quickly and take a long time to download.
3. There are some games cheaper than Steam, mostly for indie games.

Just yesterday was setting up a PS4 and boot a game disc. It wants to copy the disc and set up a 50GB update that takes 2h... This does not happen much on the Switch.  Put a cartridge in, in the next 5-10mins you are playing. But SW2 will be a bit more like current ones.
In Japan you had the option of buying a Panasonic fork of the GameCube that could read DVDs. Nintendo never really wanted to be associated with media consumption. The PSP was a much more versatile platform were you could watch movies, shows and listen to music before the smartphone era, but that didn't help them compete with the DS, which almost sold twice as much. Media playback is nice to have, but certainly not mandatory for a gaming system. Especially when said gaming system (Nintendo) doesn't really compete with anyone else in the space. You buy their systems because you like their first-party games, but it's not a good platform if you want to play all the third-party stuff
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Apple and NVidia does Software and Hardware.
And?
Nintendo makes games, and good one.
And?
Not a Nintendo fanboi, but at least half of the fun I had from games this last 10 years comes from Nintendo.
They have some good games, but their anticonsumer actions have always rub the me the wrong way.

Plus their stance on emulators and their attacks on that community.

So grateful that Sega and then Sony broke their monopoly.
 
In Japan you had the option of buying a Panasonic fork of the GameCube that could read DVDs. Nintendo never really wanted to be associated with media consumption. The PSP was a much more versatile platform were you could watch movies, shows and listen to music before the smartphone era, but that didn't help them compete with the DS, which almost sold twice as much. Media playback is nice to have, but certainly not mandatory for a gaming system. Especially when said gaming system (Nintendo) doesn't really compete with anyone else in the space. You buy their systems because you like their first-party games, but it's not a good platform if you want to play all the third-party stuff
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Yeah sure but that was $500 and not available worldwide. They could have done like Xbox and sold a remote + DVD licence, since the drive itself read DVD.

But say you have a 4k TV that doesnt really play well with media apps (mine is unusable at 1440p+) or your TV doesnt support some of those platforms, say VIDAA from HiSense or Titan OS from Philips.
Having the other device allowing you access most apps is very useful. If you buy a Nintendo also because of that, it is more of a chance for them to sell you games. It is not like before where you will spend $500 in a console vs $50 for a TV Box to do the same thing!

There have already been pretty bad decisions with not handing out much in the way of developer kits, $90 games and a very high price for the device. Plus the limited 3rd party support due to lack of dev kits... Everything seems to be going the wrong way with this one.
 
Who actually uses their Nintendo anything for streaming services? Seems like a niche...
Their main audience is children, I think they want more say on what content will be available on the system so they can advertise that kids can't use it to see (the evil thing)*
 
And?

And?

They have some good games, but their anticonsumer actions have always rub the me the wrong way.

Plus their stance on emulators and their attacks on that community.

So grateful that Sega and then Sony broke their monopoly.

They aren't anti consumer and they were never a monopoly. The trap with Nintendo is that if Nintendo hardware ceases to exist so do all Nintendo games and the games they work with their best third party developers. You want to make sure there is never another Zelda game ever again? Get Nintendo out of the hardware game and that will happen immediately.

Nintendo has always sat off in their own land and never had the best of anything in hardware but in house had great teams that focus on fun and know how to extra every ounce of performance from the limited stuff they have. It works for them. And that combination of stuff has meant their own games and the ones they work with their partners on are always the best of the best of each generation. The problems they've had (lower graphics than competitors, frame rate drops) go back to the original NES. Their entire portable line which has crushed now dozens of competitors and driven them out of the market was always the worst of the worst when it came to hardware and functionality.

Emulation is theft. I say that as someone who emulates. Unless you own the original game or it is off copyright it is stealing, often in bulk, it is morally, legally, and ethically wrong. I'm OK with that, but I'm not going to lie and say it's not theft and shreds any moral credibility I may have on issues of theft completely. I'm ethical enough and respected games enough I bought the original JAMMA arcade boards for the arcade games I wanted rather than pirate through MAME. Six figure investment. Got married had to sell off the game room. Did I emulate them? Yes. Is it theft, un ethnical, immoral, and illegal? Yeah I don't own them now! I'm not going to lie about it.

Their stance on third party hardware is understandable. Going back to the NES a lot of third party hardware was crap and often damaged their own stuff. They don't want to deal with it and their consumers don't want to deal with it.

In some cases they have stances consumers should respect. Part of the reason their game prices stay high is they are committed to physical media. With everything going to digital downloads after the PC lead the way and the PC now forcing gaming into gaming as a service in the cloud (and yes it's coming, no it can't be stopped, and yes it is due to PC gaming so take a bow PC gamers) Nintendo is still good about physical games.

As long as your goals aren't stealing their games or permanently killing off Zelda and more just to get a release on the PC Nitendo is fine. But then again PC gamers have always been thieves and would murder infants in the crib if it got them a game on the PC so their judgement has long be held up for mockery.
 
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Are there any plus sides to owning a Nintendo? All I see is childish puzzle games and a hammer to hit you over the head with.
Nintendo is one of the few -major- gaming houses that still treats games as games (mobile slop notwithstanding), not JJ Abrams movies with segments in between where you have control. Not forgetting that their consoles are actually distinctive. Playstations and Xboxes are indistinguishable besides branding and some minor, internal hardware variations.

Doesn't excuse them being an awful platform maintainer and copyright owner, but one has to give credit where (when?) it's due.
 
Reading some of these comments makes me sad and is making me lose hope for gaming. The fact that there are people on here that fully defending Nintendo and thinking they are doing no wrong or thinking Microsoft is worse just sickens me to my core and this is coming from a former Nintendo fanboy.

I swear gaming is dying quicker than ever and Nintendo is leading the way.
 
Yeah sure but that was $500 and not available worldwide. They could have done like Xbox and sold a remote + DVD licence, since the drive itself read DVD.

But say you have a 4k TV that doesnt really play well with media apps (mine is unusable at 1440p+) or your TV doesnt support some of those platforms, say VIDAA from HiSense or Titan OS from Philips.
Having the other device allowing you access most apps is very useful. If you buy a Nintendo also because of that, it is more of a chance for them to sell you games. It is not like before where you will spend $500 in a console vs $50 for a TV Box to do the same thing!

There have already been pretty bad decisions with not handing out much in the way of developer kits, $90 games and a very high price for the device. Plus the limited 3rd party support due to lack of dev kits... Everything seems to be going the wrong way with this one.
Tbf, Even the first gen switch was barely a reseasonable alternative to a proper TV box. No netflix, no prime video, no HBO. Did nintendo prevented that from happening, or did these platform just had no intererest in developping an app ?

I'm not denying that it would be usefull for the customer, but that doesn't really seems like something that would really drive their sales numbers. It's nice to have, but not a killer feature. Games are always going to be their main driving force and only focus. Heck, by default you can't even play audio or video files, and you have to do a complex manipulation if you want to use a web browser. They've never shown any interest in making a multifunction device. them allowing limited third party apps was already a miracle imho.

It's not like the PS2 who was a cheap DVD player compared to a standalone DVD player of the era. The switch is bloody expensive for a TV box, and it's not even bledding edge. An Apple TV is a much better deal. If you are not interested in their games, buying a switch as a media center would have been a bad deal even if they were compatible with all the popular media apps.
 
Reading some of these comments makes me sad and is making me lose hope for gaming. The fact that there are people on here that fully defending Nintendo and thinking they are doing no wrong or thinking Microsoft is worse just sickens me to my core and this is coming from a former Nintendo fanboy.

I swear gaming is dying quicker than ever and Nintendo is leading the way.
Agreed.

Will add, its not only Nintendo that its killing gaming.
 
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Meanwhile, I am enjoying my Ally with a Amazon retro drive that has all of the old consoles and Games. It is sad to see how brand loyal people are when they remove features that everyone could use. The popularity of the Switch also makes this a dumb move.
 
Considering the cost of everything Switch 2 went up, I'm guessing Nintendo wanted a bigger cut from the companies to allow streaming apps onto their platform and some of the players don't want to pony up.

Nintendo knows being on the Switch opens up a huge untapped market for streaming services and figures the juice is worth the squeeze.

Well let's just wait for Epic to barge in and sue Nintendo for their walled garden and lack of consumer choice in storefronts. Any day now...
 
I swear gaming is dying quicker than ever and Nintendo is leading the way.
Gaming is dying because Nintendo isn't letting a non-game related functionality into their consoles?

Ok, I am actually starting to agree with Lex here...

PC gamers killed gaming and want to blame everyone but themselves.
That's impossible. Our gaming scene has been dead for three decades now. Or so they said.
 
Ok, I am actually starting to agree with Lex here...
And just like Lex would say, you’re missing the point entirely. The fact that you came to that simple conclusion just like he does, you’re missing the point entirely.
 
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