ASUS Radeon RX 9060 XT Prime OC 16 GB

[lexluthermiester]

As a staff member, he should behave on a less biased way and he has been called out many times

TPU staff are not restricted from expressing their own thoughts and opinions. Additionally..

for his pro Ngreedia actions.

When users say daft and immature things like this, you instantly discredit yourself as someone to be taken in any manner seriously. Lose the nonsense..

Hell, his posts have been LQ by other mods.....

He's not a mod and he's just as passionate about tech as many of the rest of us. We need to stop with the dogpiling or I'm going to point out how many times others made complete fools of themselves(and that's a LONG damn list).

Anyways, I have no desire in continuing mentioning him.

Very good.

 

[Cheeseball]

Does it really matters to a player in a tournament that his hardware is pushing over 200 or more FPS?

Of course it does, especially in FPS games. Visibility and reaction time are key.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

TPU staff are not restricted from expressing their own thoughts and opinions. Additionally..

When users say daft and immature thing like this you instantly discredit yourself as someone to be taken in any manner seriously. Lose the nonsense..

See how you contradict yourself on those two answers....

Of course it does, especially in FPS games. Visibility and reaction time are key.

At what point it stops mattering from a player physical point of view?

 

[EatingDirt]

Card should have been priced at $319 and it would be a decent product compared to RTX 5060 Ti 16 GB.
It should have been made with 192-bit bus and 12 GB VRAM, that would lower costs.
RX 9060 non-XT 16GB version now makes absolutely no sense.

Changing the bus requires actual engineering and changes to the design and physical chip. The 9060XT required practically no R&D because it's just a 50% Navi 48. It's clear RDNA 4.0 hardware is a minimum effort hardware stopgap between RDNA & UDNA.

 

[lexluthermiester]

See how you contradict yourself on those two answers....

Only if you fail to understand context. Stop with the personal jabs.

 

[JustBenching]

Are we seriously suggesting that games should be REMOVED from the review? I mean the goal of a reviewer is to test as many games as humanly possible, even more so the popular ones. How the heck did we get down to "remove this and this". This is not a DIY salad bar buffet picking and choosing what you like or what you don't. What the hell.

The card barely by the skin of it's teeth beat the 5 year old 3070. Turning this into a buffet won't make the card better

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'm seeing contradicting results compared to Hardware Unboxed review, specifically in Hogwarts Legacy and God Of War Ragnarok both at 1440p.

Little tip, there is a HUGE difference in credibility between HUB and TPU. My advice, stop giving HUB/Steve Walton any of your time.

Are we seriously suggesting that games should be REMOVED from the review?

No one with any sense is suggesting that. IMHO, any game that is currently popular and offers a valid benchmarking result should be considered for review testing. I believe W1zzard carefully considers the options for what games to include based on specific requirements and merits.

 

[Cheeseball]

At what point it stops mattering from a player physical point of view?

Until the player has trained enough to have low reaction time and adequate aim to compete at a high level. Remember that higher FPS also means lower latency, excluding using crap like DLSS/FSR FG.

 

[JustBenching]

Until the player has trained enough to have low reaction time and adequate aim to compete at a high level. Remember that higher FPS also means lower latency, excluding using crap like DLSS/FSR FG.

My 1080p 480hz is ready for the 5060ti for those juicy high framerates.

 

[dgianstefani]

TPU staff are not restricted from expressing their own thoughts and opinions. Additionally..

It's a good thing for ideas to be discussed publically so their quality can be publically determined through discussion, and the matter put to rest. That's the point of a public forum. Regardless of who raises or answers the points, staff or member. The idea of selectively excluding results from a specific test based on apparently nothing more than dislike of them goes against every scientific methodology principle taught from age 13 and up.

Attacking methodology then complaining when staff answer is certainly one of the approaches of all time.

To me, the fact these two results just happen to show AMD in a bad light, plus some basic pattern recognition on the people commenting is very indicative of the real motivations behind wanting to exclude certain data. Fascinating how the accusations of bias along with general mudslinging come hard and fast though from these same people, when challenged by myself and others. Surely a standardised testing suite without special exceptions is the best way to avoid bias?

 

[Cheeseball]

My 1080p 480hz is ready for the 5060ti for those juicy high framerates.

This is actually doable. With all the settings to low (except for MSAA 2x) at 1080p (or 1280x1024 if you're really competitive), you should be able to pull 400+ FPS with a RTX 5060 Ti.

On my 9070 XT, I get 680+ FPS. On the 5090 around 805.

ON TOPIC:
I think there either needs to be a game update or a driver update for CS2 to work better.

Also @W1zzard

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Table shows 64 ROPs for the 9060 XT.

Nevermind it is supposed to have 64 ROPs lol

 

[JustBenching]

This is actually doable. With all the settings to low (except for MSAA 2x) at 1080p (or 1280x1024 if you're really competitive), you should be able to pull 400+ FPS with a RTX 5060 Ti.

On my 9070 XT, I get 680+ FPS. On the 5090 around 805.

I think ill be cpu limited at some point, haven't tested CS2 but eg. valorant I get around 500-600.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Are we seriously suggesting that games should be REMOVED from the review? I mean the goal of a reviewer is to test as many games as humanly possible, even more so the popular ones. How the heck did we get down to "remove this and this". This is not a DIY salad bar buffet picking and choosing what you like or what you don't. What the hell.

The card barely by the skin of it's teeth beat the 5 year old 3070. Turning this into a buffet won't make the card better

I can't imagine what being a reviewer is like in 2025.

Use weak RT games, you are pro AMD

Use games that are not vram heavy, you are pro Nvidia

Say DLSS is superior and in substantially more games you are pro Nvidia

Use games that are heavy on vram, you are pro AMD

Use popular games that don't perform well on a specific brand of gpus, please remove them.

Honestly we need all this data as consumers people who want to limit how a card is tested aren't really enthusiasts they are just brand simps that want their brand of choice only tested in a way that makes it look at it's best.

 

[dgianstefani]

I think ill be cpu limited at some point, haven't tested CS2 but eg. valorant I get around 500-600.

OW2 is one of best games to test HW scaling. The engine is fantastic even if the game itself has fallen off a cliff popularity wise.

 

[JustBenching]

OW2 is one of best games to test hw scaling. The engine is fantastic even if the game itself has fallen off a cliff popularity wise.

You mean overwatch 2? I get capped at 600, did they remove that?

 

[Hecate91]

Are we seriously suggesting that games should be REMOVED from the review? I mean the goal of a reviewer is to test as many games as humanly possible, even more so the popular ones. How the heck did we get down to "remove this and this". This is not a DIY salad bar buffet picking and choosing what you like or what you don't. What the hell.

The card barely by the skin of it's teeth beat the 5 year old 3070. Turning this into a buffet won't make the card better

Not completely removing it, just take away the game being weighted so heavily on relative performance, and perhaps use more realistic settings for esports games.
The 5060Ti is barely beating the 3070 as well, but I wouldn't buy a 8GB card let alone a used one that could have been using for mining, but picking and choosing is ironic when you're looking to cherry pick titles which make the card look worse than it is in reality across every other game tested.

My 1080p 480hz is ready for the 5060ti for those juicy high framerates.

Then enjoy paying $430 for muddy textures to even take advantage of a 480hz monitor, to each their own I guess.

 

[dgianstefani]

You mean overwatch 2? I get capped at 600, did they remove that?

Yes. There's 600 FPS cap, but the game scales very well. You can just increase quality settings and resolution a bit till you find a point where all cards/hardware tested show pretty accurate performance differences.

 

[W1zzard]

I was hoping for Oblivion Remastered Benchmarks Also, no Call of Duty Black Ops 6? Doom the Dark Ages? Clair Obscur? Spiderman 2 Remastered?

No plans for Oblivion, no plans for COD. DOOM and Clair Obscur will be added in next rebench, Spiderman 2 already includede

 

[JustBenching]

Not completely removing it, just take away the game being weighted so heavily on relative performance, and perhaps use more realistic settings for esports games.

You can just ignore games you are not interested in my man. Lots of games in the review I really don't care about. EG. Cyberpunk without RT is absolutely useless to me, never going to play that game without PT on, but im not asking for it's removal. That would be asinine

The 5060Ti is barely beating the 3070 as well, but I wouldn't buy a 8GB card let alone a used one that could have been using for mining, but picking and choosing is ironic when you're looking to cherry pick titles which make the card look worse than it is in reality across every other game tested.

I looked at the averages, didn't cherrypick any game. On average it's barely beating a 5 year old 3070. Saying "so does the 5060ti" proves my point, they are both garbage.

Then enjoy paying $430 for muddy textures to even take advantage of a 480hz monitor, to each their own I guess.

It's 374 for the 8gb 5060ti.

 

[dgianstefani]

Not completely removing it, just take away the game being weighted so heavily on relative performance, and perhaps use more realistic settings for esports games.
The 5060Ti is barely beating the 3070 as well, but I wouldn't buy a 8GB card let alone a used one that could have been using for mining, but picking and choosing is ironic when you're looking to cherry pick titles which make the card look worse than it is in reality.

I suggest you look up the definition of the term. This is not the first time you seem to not understand or selectively understand what it means.

Using the same game suite and the same weighting as every other GPU review, that shows issues with the tested card in a couple of games in this case, is not cherry picking. That's the definition of standardised testing with no special treatment. Were you calling for the couple of games the 8 GB 5060 variants had issues running at ultra settings at high resolutions to be excluded for being "outliers"? No? Wonder why. These results are meant to inform, accurately, with hard data, not reinforce preexisting belief systems.

Asking to exclude those specific games in this specific review because you don't like the results, is cherry picking.

 

[Cheeseball]

You mean overwatch 2? I get capped at 600, did they remove that?

Still 600. But that's technically fine. There are no 600Hz+ monitors yet anyway.

So the 9070 GRE is going to be a replacement of the 7700XT and/or 7800 XT? 96 ROPs, so it would definitely be weaker than the 9070 but should match the RTX 5070 non-Ti?

 

[JustBenching]

I suggest you look up the definition of the term. This is not the first time you seem to not understand or selectively understand what it means.

Using the same game suite and the same weighting as every other GPU review, that shows issues with a couple of games in this case, is not cherry picking. That's the definition of standardised testing with no special treatment.

Asking to exclude those specific games in this specific review because you don't like the results, is cherry picking.

Wonder why they didn't want to remove doom as well, since it's a huge outlier as well. Do you have any idea why they are fine with doom but not the other outliers?

Spoiler

 

[dartuil]

Are stocks of 7800XT and 7900GRE depleted? Because that's where the 9070GRE will slot in raster-wise.

They disappear in france.
Im looking for 9070gre , aiming new 1440p monitor

 

[Hecate91]

The irony is selecting one game to say the 9060XT is bad then kneejerk react saying it would break the whole test suite to not weigh all of the relative performance on one game that performs worse. I'm tired of repeating myself on this and I'm not going to say it again.
I think there is something going on with the relative performance charts when the 9060XT performs as well, or is slightly faster than a 5060Ti in nearly every other game tested.

 

[Neo_Morpheus]

Until the player has trained enough to have low reaction time and adequate aim to compete at a high level. Remember that higher FPS also means lower latency, excluding using crap like DLSS/FSR FG.

I understand but at the same time, what is the limit?

Where does is stop mattering?

I dont believe that the human eye will perceive changes at infinitum.

We have hard limits everywhere, so the question persist, until when does these numbers matter?