ASUS Radeon RX 9060 XT Prime OC 16 GB

[RaceT3ch]

The 6700 XT gets 67 FPS at 1080p max, I think that's pretty good.

Forgot to add this was for Indiana Jones*

 

[Visible Noise]

I think the biggest milestone is witnessing 16GB becoming the norm in the lower performance tier > finally hitting the sweet spot for the mainstream crowd.

It’s not though. AMD restricted day 1 reviews to 16GB cards. It’s even worse than what Nvidia did. Nvidia just didn’t send out 8GB cards, but AMD went as far as to say you can’t review any others except for what we sent you. Got an 8GB card from a partner? Tough nuggies, we get to control the day 1 narrative.

Kinda (not) surprised at the lack of outrage, considering how vocal people were about Nvidia not sending out 8GB cards.

 

[mrarmp]

Quite odd how much words are just being thrown about, cough, other reviewers.
I signed up just to say something about that. I don't read tech power up extensively (I don't really read much of anything outside of tech, sometimes politics, tech is more or less so and politics is from a "I kind of have to keep up with SOME sort of news" feeling) but use the GPU hierarchy page extensively.
I personally don't agree with the 9060xt being good value. According to both TPU and HUB, the 7700xt has perf comparable to the 9060xt. The 7700xt has 68% more cores. According to both TPU and HUB, that was too close to the 7800xt. So 400$ would have been a better price for that. This is -50$ from that, with an extreme core count cut down. Even Nvidia didn't do this this gen to this degree (I checked core count percentage differences, the only one where the new version is worse than (in this case) a super, was the the 5070 at 16% decrease that received a 9% price cut, much less worse than the 68% - 14% imbalance with the 9060xt - 7700xt. I did NOT really run other numbers against non-equivalent cards extensively, and frankly I am extremely confused at what the 7700xt is even supposed to be. It seems to be an aspiring 70, 60 ti class from the very little I have seen and from the hierarchy?).
Of course, an IMPORTANT note is that core counts aren't necessarily easily comparable between architectures AND that transistor count did increase from the 9060xt to the 7700xt 7700xt to 9060xt (I believe Thomas Peterson from Intel said so in a podcast with Tim from HUB. It's not also too outlandish to believe this is true outright, expecially between vendors). I am, however, extremely unsure if this simply discredits this line of reasonning. Really, the 9060 XT is good in the current market, which says more about the state of the GPU market than about how good the 9060 xt is.

Just because I don't agree with the conclusion of BOTH reviews (yeah, cause their conclusions are the same) doesn't make them biased (yes I know that is simplifying and that's probably not the reason you think X reviewer is biased. However you will at least recognize HUB has given plenty of AMD products bad reivews (INCLUDING zen 5, which TPU had differing opinions about, I believe?).). If you have genuine criticism you really should just send a message to the reviewer in question. Mayhaps you'll learn something that you didn't know. (that's not meant to be in bad faith, and really I don't mean this comment in bad faith to anybody here. Really hard to read meaning over the internet, especially for me.)

 

[wheresmycar]

What would you buy/upgrade too if your GPU died tomorrow?

My 3080 at 1440p has been holding up pretty good, just a little noticeably short of VRAM in a couple of titles. For a quick replacement, i'd fancy some 30% uplift with either the 16GB 5070 TI or 9700 XT. If closer to MSRP, most probably the Nvidia card to entertain the GSYNC panel + fancying the cards efficiency.

Problem being, if you're already blowing shit loads of cash for just 30%, you might as well drop another £200 for the 5080 which buys you 50%. Yep the in-house white coat think tanks with green undies have us by the balls on that one. Although, I'm just not feeling as generous nowadays.

Kinda hoping you don't kill my 3080 lol I'm planning on riding it late into 2025 or early 2026 until a couple of eagerly awaited new titles drop. Once these games have been benched, if the above 2 options don't cut it (desired performance + headroom), at that point, theres no need to think twice - its a full-on no-bollox approach: 5080

 

[SSGBryan]

You're getting the same amount of VRAM for $80 less. It's around 30-35% faster than the 7600XT for 10% more money, which is a better price/performance value than what the jacket man provided with the 5060Ti.

Did you miss what I said too?
The B580 is also higher on the chart but those aren't selling anything close to MSRP either.

I got mine at MSRP back in January; they went up for a while, but they have come back down (except the Gunnir cards - they are still trying to get close to $400USD for those.).

 

[scooze]

If I couldn't find a deal and had to buy at current prices, most likely a 5070.

It's just mind boggling how a 5070 that was destroyed at launch is now one of the best buys. I see more and more cases of people buying it because they only need to pay a little more than the 5060ti16, and for the 5070ti they need to pay another 50-60% of the cost and they refuse all other options.

 

[wheresmycar]

It’s not though. AMD restricted day 1 reviews to 16GB cards. It’s even worse than what Nvidia did. Nvidia just didn’t send out 8GB cards, but AMD went as far as to say you can’t review any others except for what we sent you. Got an 8GB card from a partner? Tough nuggies, we get to control the day 1 narrative.

Kinda (not) surprised at the lack of outrage, considering how vocal people were about Nvidia not sending out 8GB cards.

You lost me.

I'm just generally pleased to see both of these black hole for a stomach duopoly overlords have included 16GB in their lower performance tier GPUs. Not sure how that is relevant to what they did or didn't do during their launches or what these mad-crazy-terrorising-religious-fanatics-in-red/green-skidmark-superman-pants keep banging on about.

 

[Visible Noise]

You lost me.

I'm just generally pleased to see both of these black hole for a stomach duopoly overlords have included 16GB in their lower performance tier GPUs. Not sure how that is relevant to what they did or didn't do during their launches or what these mad-crazy-terrorising-religious-fanatics-in-red/green-skidmark-superman-pants keep banging on about.

You said 16GB is becoming the norm for low end graphics cards. That’s not true.

 

[RandallFlagg]

It's just mind boggling how a 5070 that was destroyed at launch is now one of the best buys. I see more and more cases of people buying it because they only need to pay a little more than the 5060ti16, and for the 5070ti they need to pay another 50-60% of the cost and they refuse all other options.

Yeah, it's a matter of where you're coming from I think.

Thing is, I would be fine with 7800XT caliber performance at say $400. That's kind of what I was expecting, not being picky about +/- 10%. But instead, we get the same performance at the same price points, just the model numbers have changed. This 9060XT performs like a 7700XT - and has the same price, while the 5060 Ti 16GB wants you to trade $100 for another +8% performance at 4K. - which ironically allows it to keep up with said 12GB 7700XT. The 9070 / 5070 perform like a 4070 Ti - and have the same price (except the 9070 is $100 more). To make it worse, the prices on the last gen cards like the 7800XT have shot up, removing that as a viable option.

So from a what you get for your money standpoint, it's 2023 again.

I actually think the only ones that will win here will be Nintendo and Sony.

 

[theglaze]

Really, the 9060 XT is good in the current market, which says more about the state of the GPU market than about how good the 9060 xt is.

Welcome to the TPU forums!
And I think you nailed it with this statement.

 

[Hecate91]

You lost me.

I'm just generally pleased to see both of these black hole for a stomach duopoly overlords have included 16GB in their lower performance tier GPUs. Not sure how that is relevant to what they did or didn't do during their launches or what these mad-crazy-terrorising-religious-fanatics-in-red/green-skidmark-superman-pants keep banging on about.

I agree with this, it is nice to see 16GB on the lower end cards, although the pricing is still too high. I think a 9070GRE with 12GB and cut down to a 128bit bus would've made more sense than a 16GB version of the 9060XT.

But I have yet to see any proof of AMD not allowing reviews of 8GB cards, I don't see it being relevant here either, and it's such an outlandish claim it sounds more like the fanatics in green skidmark pants upset because the 9060XT is a better value than a 5060Ti. If AMD were to block reviews then all of the tech press would be be posting articles.

 

[arbiter]

SO AMD touted for 9060xt 16gb "we are 6% faster on avg then a 5060ti 8gb." but in TPU review its on avg 6% slower then 5060ti 8gb......... Hate being right sometimes that amd did some shenanigans again.

 

[Squared]

You're both right. I was thinking about the 5060ti 16GB PCIe scaling results.

It does look like you can put a 5060 Ti on a PCIe slot and lose only 1% of frame rate in most games and only a little over 10% in the worst case, and probably a little more loss in minimum frame rate. But that only tests games; I don't know what happens in other workloads. And the 5060 Ti and 9600 XT are priced similarly, perform similarly (in a 5.0 slot), and have similar features. So even with the PCIe 3.0 bandwidth causing only a small hit, it still tips the balance in favor of the AMD card.

 

[DemonicRyzen666]

What's with the discrepancies of the 2560x1440 on Native on showing 58 fps, but another graph shows 63fps for the same setting in Indina Jones at 2560x1440 Native no FSR??

ASUS Radeon RX 9060 XT Prime OC 16 GB Review

The AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT launches at a highly competitive $350 MSRP, which is much lower than the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 16 GB, yet the card offers similar performance. Thanks to the dual BIOS feature, noise levels of the ASUS Prime are incredible: whisper quiet!

www.techpowerup.com

ASUS Radeon RX 9060 XT Prime OC 16 GB Review

The AMD Radeon RX 9060 XT launches at a highly competitive $350 MSRP, which is much lower than the NVIDIA GeForce RTX 5060 Ti 16 GB, yet the card offers similar performance. Thanks to the dual BIOS feature, noise levels of the ASUS Prime are incredible: whisper quiet!

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8% difference for the same settings?

 

[JustBenching]

I agree with this, it is nice to see 16GB on the lower end cards, although the pricing is still too high. I think a 9070GRE with 12GB and cut down to a 128bit bus would've made more sense than a 16GB version of the 9060XT.

But I have yet to see any proof of AMD not allowing reviews of 8GB cards, I don't see it being relevant here either, and it's such an outlandish claim it sounds more like the fanatics in green skidmark pants upset because the 9060XT is a better value than a 5060Ti. If AMD were to block reviews then all of the tech press would be be posting articles.

LTT didn't get a card, and nobody reviewed the 8gb if you haven't noticed.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

LTT didn't get a card, and nobody reviewed the 8gb if you haven't noticed.

HUB is doing theirs tomorrow they've already said it's trash though.

 

[JustBenching]

Tpu is doing theirs tomorrow they've already said it's trash though.

That's even worse. AMD is playing favoritism, only sends review samples of the 8gb to select few

Is what the narrative would have been if it was nvidia that was doing it

Funny thing, they couldn't even get their deadline right, some people didn't publish a review cause amd told them the deadline is today instead of yesterday, lol.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

That's even worse. AMD is playing favoritism, only sends review samples of the 8gb to select few

Is what the narrative would have been if it was nvidia that was doing it

Funny thing, they couldn't even get their deadline right, some people didn't publish a review cause amd told them the deadline is today instead of yesterday, lol.

Meant to put HUB...

Doesn't matter, at least they didn't send it to influencers and force them to use MFG comparing it to a 2060 lmao

That be like them only allowing reviewers to review it with lossless upscaling 6x or whatever it's up to at this point lol.

 

[JustBenching]

Meant to put HUB...

Doesn't matter, at least they didn't send it to influencers and force them to use MFG comparing it to a 2060 lmao

That be like them only allowing reviewers to review it with lossless upscaling 6x or whatever it's up to at this point lol.

Well isn't it the same thing, sending to a select few reviewers makes sure they will use certain games with certain settings.

Especially someone like HUB that changes his test suite daily? I still haven't figured his methodology at all. Even when he uses the same games, he changes settings constantly, other times he is running high presets, medium preset, ultra presets, sometimes with rt sometimes without. Mostly it affects his CPU reviews and not so much his GPU but still..

 

[Hecate91]

LTT didn't get a card, and nobody reviewed the 8gb if you haven't noticed.

I don't watch their channel, and all it means is the 16GB cards were reviewed first, doesn't mean AMD blocked reviewers from having them.

That's even worse. AMD is playing favoritism, only sends review samples of the 8gb to select few

Is what the narrative would have been if it was nvidia that was doing it

Funny thing, they couldn't even get their deadline right, some people didn't publish a review cause amd told them the deadline is today instead of yesterday, lol.

Only sending review samples to some channels isn't the same as not allowing reviews on launch day.
Nvidia did play favorites with the 5060 though, they threatened reviewers with not getting any cards unless they only published a "preview" as an ad for DLSS and MFG 4x vs. a 2060 and 3060.
Also reviews a day before launch is how things should normally work, not ngreedia bribed previews disguised as a review a whole week before launch.

 

[JustBenching]

I don't watch their channel, and all it means is the 16Gb cards were reviewed first, doesn't mean AMD actively blocked reviewers from having them.

LTT said he didn't get a card man.

Only sending review samples to some channels isn't the same as not allowing reviews on launch day.

Of course it is. If you only send review samples to channels that for example are favorable to you.

 

[HisDivineOrder]

50% performance between 9070 and 9060XT is unacceptable, this card should have been born with at least 40CUs, the price is good, but AMD is leaving a whole range uncovered, the 5070, and it's a range where many cards are sold... Really inconceivable.

Isn't the 9070 non-XT the 5070 competitor? If you believe MSRP's, the cost is the same and we're all supposed to trust AMD's word that the MSRP is the MSRP, right?

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Well isn't it the same thing, sending to a select few reviewers makes sure they will use certain games with certain settings.

Both AMD and Nvidia know their 8GB gpus aren't going to get favorable reviews even TPU which is probably the least adverse to 8GB cards didn't seem overly impressed so why send them.

Amd keeps flip flopping when it benefits them they gloat about the extra vram when it doesn't they say 80% of gamers only need 8 or some shit.

Nvidia Just doesn't give AF but they also can't handle criticism whatsoever.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

That's even worse. AMD is playing favoritism, only sends review samples of the 8gb to select few

Is what the narrative would have been if it was nvidia that was doing it

Funny thing, they couldn't even get their deadline right, some people didn't publish a review cause amd told them the deadline is today instead of yesterday, lol.

-Thank Christ AMD is finally graduating from the peewee leagues into the majors.

Nvidia doesn't even flinch when they do everything possible to make their products appear in the best light whenever possible.

Yeah you get some "Ngreedia" bitching from basement dwellers on tech forums, but the masses shut up and buy.

AMD has a long and storied history of shooting itself in the dick with every GPU launch. Always something wrong, the drivers, the cooler, the price...

They're finally figuring it out. Look good in the launch reviews. Lie cheat and steal if you have to. But look good in the launch reviews and that is all that will ever matter to the unwashed masses and your shit will sell. And then you'll have money, and then you can actually spend some to make a better product.

Or just get better at lying, cheating, and stealing.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

AMD has a long and storied history of shooting itself in the dick with every GPU launch. Always something wrong, the drivers, the cooler, the price...

Gonna have to start calling them AMDong!