ASUS Radeon RX 9060 XT Prime OC 16 GB

[oxrufiioxo]

I'd rather just skip and wait for the 6090. Pray to god it's going to be faaaast.

Even if its another 30% bump I think that's ok if they get it back down to 450w...

The main problem is what it's going to cost calling 2500 msrp with a 3500 street price lmao.

 

[Krit]

I got one for 270 on Amazon in like Aug 2023 for a build ... Honestly I didn't feel that was too bad. Microcenter had them down to 280 I believe but that may have been with a mobo can't remember.

I got RYZEN 7 7700 slightly used for 170€ about 5 months ago and MB ASRock B650 PRO RS was 140€ new i wanted a gigabyte b650m ds3h but it was not available for less money.

 

[JustBenching]

Even if its another 30% bump I think that's ok if they get it back down to 450w...

The main problem is what it's going to cost calling 2500 msrp with a 3500 street price lmao.

Wouldnt spend more than 2.5k euros for a gpu.

Its funny but buying xx90s is more cost efficient than costantly upgrading midrange models, lol.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Wouldnt spend more than 2.5k euros for a gpu.

Its funny but buying xx90s is more cost efficient than costantly upgrading midrange models, lol.

In the states you can get 3 5070ti/9700XT for 1 5090 but with the poor generational improvements there is no guarantee that a 7070ti will actually be better than a 5090 lol.

#goodtimes

 

[JustBenching]

with the poor generational improvements there is no guarantee that a 7070ti will actually be better than a 4090 lol.

#goodtimes

Fixed

 

[Miiksuli]

This is big dilemma for me.
I was really hoping RX9060XT would edge out on the RX7700XT.
Even if just a little bit.

Im torn if I should get 7700xt or 9060xt for my budget.

It seems to me:
9060xt.
Pro: lower power consumption.
Newer tech.
Con:
Less performance than 7700xt

7700xt.
Pro: Higher performance.
Con: Power consumption is around 50w more under gaming.

What would you guys do?
It depends which one turns out cheaper?

7700 XT ray tracing performance is lower. No point to get it.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

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Come on man it can't be that bad.... I guess you're right it probably can. I hear Jensen now. "It's finally safe to upgrade ADA owners 4090 perfomance for 999 this time without the power of AI"

 

[mrarmp]

Even if its another 30% bump I think that's ok if they get it back down to 450w...

The main problem is what it's going to cost calling 2500 msrp with a 3500 street price lmao.

Bold of you to assume it'll have a set street price.
See, we might expect a 2x improvement in DLSS perf*
Thus, we can assume the prices will be upscaled accordingly. Since MSRP is not real, we may as well use the minimum street price on whatever platform and multiply that by 1.5. I know, very unrealistic of me. That gives around 4500$ or lower. After all, 4500 is barely 30% more than 3500$, lots of leeway there. Besides, 30% means 3500 and 4500 are basically the same number...
* (with -1% raster "uplift" but nobody cares about raster, MFG may be used)

Inb4 this becomes real and Nvidia just gives the full die as a pro card.

 

[PLAfiller]

No badge? I kinda went straight for the conclusions

Whole paragraph, like even two paragraphs on pricing....basically IF you CAN get at $300: RX6800/ 3070/ 7700XT/ you may wanna think about it....You can easily get a second hand 3070ti below €300, no warranty of course in most of EU. RX6800XT is also within reach at the €300 mark....and it is a fairly OK 4K capable card. At least AMD is not advertising PRO-drivers support for 9600XT, only adrenaline. I guess if you have up to €400 budget, you really need to look into each proposition new or used very carefully and I feel like warranty is what tips the scales here.

 

[JustBenching]

Come on man it can't be that bad.... I guess you're right it probably can. I hear Jensen now. "It's finally safe to upgrade ADA owners 4090 perfomance for 999 this time without the power of AI"

Well they will be using a new node next time around which is good news but they might as well end up using that for lower power draw instead of performance and youd end up with a 10-15% performance boost for the 6070ti vs the 5070ti.

But i fully trust jensen not to botch the xx90 model which is the one i care about (and amds xx90 competitor, naturally)

 

[W1zzard]

Well they will be using a new node next time around

Why would you think that? If this was me I'd first refresh the whole stack using the same GPU (on the same process), but with 3 GB mem chips, so people crying "VRAM" can be happy and will put their money where their mouth is. Then, one year later, newer but not best process, because my top of the line chips are now on the new best process and allocation on the older process is cheaper

 

[JustBenching]

Why would you think that? If this was me I'd first refresh the whole stack using the same GPU (on the same process), but with 3 GB mem chips, so people crying "VRAM" can be happy and will put their money where their mouth is. Then, one year later, newer but not best process, because my top of the line chips are now on the new best process and allocation on the older process is cheaper

Because i think the squeezed everything they could already. Besides the vram i guess.

 

[NSR]

I guess if you have up to €400 budget, you really need to look into each proposition new or used very carefully and I feel like warranty is what tips the scales here.

Ngl, the used market here (UK) isn't cheap enough at all to justify lack of warranty on an already-used card which might just die.

Basically every card since the 30 series is maintaining its value and scaling with the newer cards pretty tightly. Used 3070 Tis are going for as much as the new 9060 XT 16GB will cost.

 

[webdigo]

7700 XT ray tracing performance is lower. No point to get it.

Rx9060xt has to be launched alot less than the 480 Nvidia wants for their 5060 ti 16gb.
If rx 9060xt turns out to be same price in my country

 

[W1zzard]

Because i think the squeezed everything they could already

I see like 10-15% OC potential on lots of NVIDIA Blackwell "middle" GPUs, there's some good potential here for "next" gen Bump the voltage a bit and you get a solid 15%, plus +50% VRAM

 

[JustBenching]

I see like 10-15% OC potential on lots of NVIDIA Blackwell "middle" GPUs, there's some good potential here for "next" gen Bump the voltage a bit and you get a solid 15%, plus +50% VRAM

Yeah the 5080 gets within spitting distance of my 4090 when oced but then power draw goes vrooom.

But what about the 5090 though, its already tapped out.

 

[W1zzard]

But what about the 5090 though, its already tapped out.

Just don't refresh it, there wasn't a 4090 Super either. otoh, there's some disabled shaders in the 5090

 

[webdigo]

Thats the thing.
If price gets screwed up and turns out to be same or super close to 5060 ti 16gb, then amd have already lost the battle here.
I hope it will be as close to max 400 as possible.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Why would you think that? If this was me I'd first refresh the whole stack using the same GPU (on the same process), but with 3 GB mem chips, so people crying "VRAM" can be happy and will put their money where their mouth is. Then, one year later, newer but not best process, because my top of the line chips are now on the new best process and allocation on the older process is cheaper

I fully expect this with ever worse priced super models. But they could give them all 120GB wouldn't make them any better.

 

[JustBenching]

Thats the thing.
If price gets screwed up and turns out to be same or super close to 5060 ti 16gb, then amd have already lost the battle here.
I hope it will be as close to max 400 as possible.

Amd have lost the battle the moment they decided to launch a similarly performing product to nvidia.

Just think about it, if history is an indication it will take another 2 months until these cards are out at their normal prices. Which means 5060ti would have existed for 4 months. Whos gonna wait for 4 months to save 49$, lol

I fully expect this with ever worse priced super models. But they could give them all 120GB wouldn't make them any better.

But they can't just release a 10% performance bump, amd will murder them with their insane genetational jumps. Or should i say LEAPS.

 

[Outback Bronze]

If this was me

I wish it was you, and hopefully bring with you cheaper prices

 

[W1zzard]

I wish it was you, and hopefully bring with you cheaper prices

hehe .. that seems extremely unlikely in a monopoly, but it opens the market for the competition, like what happened with Ryzen

 

[NSR]

Amd have lost the battle the moment they decided to launch a similarly performing product to nvidia.

They can release similar performing products, they just have to market it better. 9070 XT vs 5070 Ti proved that. Despite people paying way above MSRP, they were sold on the marketing and kept buying.

Problem with the 9060 XT isn't the performance, it's the 8GB XT model. It detracts from the positives of the 16GB XT, is a waste of silicon, and clearly only exists so that the 16GB XT couldn't be $299 instead. Had they done this differently, there would be 0 negatives about the 9060 XT, despite performing like the 5060 Ti. It would be the best value 60 class gaming card unanimously.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

But they can't just release a 10% performance bump, amd will murder them with their insane genetational jumps. Or should i say LEAPS.

Amd likely makes more money from consoles than DGPU and both console makers wanted better Upscaling and better RT for next generation I still think that is the only thing pushing the AMD graphics division forward although Nvidia basically set them up for a layup this generation the 9070XT seems to be doing really well on Newegg US with 3 models in the top ten that consistently sell out.

 

[JustBenching]

They can release similar performing products, they just have to market it better. 9070 XT vs 5070 Ti proved that. Despite people paying way above MSRP, they were sold on the marketing and kept buying.

Problem with the 9060 XT isn't the performance, it's the 8GB XT model. It detracts from the positives of the 16GB XT, is a waste of silicon, and clearly only exists so that the 16GB XT couldn't be $299 instead. Had they done this differently, there would be 0 negatives about the 9060 XT, despite performing like the 5060 Ti. It would be the best value 60 class gaming card unanimously.

The 8gb model isnt an issue. Amd could price it at 250 and have the 16gb at 300. The problem IS the performance. These cards can't replace anything but 5 year old entry level cards like 6600s ans 3060s. Thats awful