Gamers Reject RTX 5060 Ti 8 GB — Outsold 16:1 by 16 GB Model

[lexluthermiester]

Then call it a RX 9060XT-B (or RTX 5060Ti-B) for Budget and I will have no issue with it.

Why? Is "9060XT 8GB" not enough of a descriptor for you?

Expecting every non-informed person out there to clearly understand the potential performance penalties between a [9060XT / 5060Ti] 8GB card and 16GB card is disingenuous.

That's your opinion. When they read the reviews, they will understand, in a flash, exactly what to expect. Not disingenuous at all. It's in fact very clear.

but they should clearly differentiate them as so.

They have, they describe them as 8GB cards. How is this difficult to understand?

they have to do it anyways to show that one is an 8GB card, and the other is 16GB.

Exactly, that's all they need, there's no need for any extra model numbers/letters.

 

[Vayra86]

I swear Nvidia haters are such drama queens. No, I don't think most people agree on that, actually, given that over 50% of people are still using GPUs with 8GB or less.

Most people aren't even half serious gamers. They bought a card to play the odd game every week or so, because they have other priorities, and they know jack shit about anything regarding VRAM or horsepower. That's the :1 here, the crowd that is liable to get a card recommended to them from a retailer instead of doing homework.

They don't upgrade frequently either, but it is a large group.

Is that the demographic you want to base yourself on? Be my guest lol, why don't you order a few x60s while you're at it. Or 8GB AMD cards for that matter... They're just as bad in 2025, simply very bad purchase choices. They'll run games. But so does a half decent IGP that said users probably already have.

 

[outlw6669]

Why? Is "9060XT 8GB" not enough of a descriptor for you?

For you, me, and other tech-heads, it sure is.
For the rest of the idiots out there, not a chance.

Again, they will see the same 9060XT / 5060Ti card, and the price.
The understanding that the extra 8GB of VRAM has a material impact on the product is 98% sure to fly over their heads, if they even notice the 8/16GB on the product listing at all...

When they read the reviews

Have you met any normies before?

That's your opinion.

Jeup, sure is

 

[Vayra86]

Then call it a RX 9060XT-B (or RTX 5060Ti-B) for Budget and I will have no issue with it.

Expecting every non-informed person out there to clearly understand the potential performance penalties between a [9060XT / 5060Ti] 8GB card and 16GB card is disingenuous.
They will simply see that it is the exact same model, and that one is cheaper.

I understand the need/desire for AMD/NV/etc. to offer Budget offerings... but they should clearly differentiate them as so.
The consumer can still vote with their wallet, if they want the budget offering or not, but passing a budget offering off as the premium option is very scuzzy in my eyes.

Printing extra letters/numbers on boxes is cheap; they have to do it anyways to show that one is an 8GB card, and the other is 16GB.
So, just spend these cheap extra letters/numbers on clearly differentiating the two products.

EDIT:

Perhaps call them "Platinum" models?
Makes them still seem high-end, but still clearly different than the standard XT/Ti designations?

I don't think Nvidia has any issues in segmentation, if you can't read the difference between all capital 8GB vs 16GB you need to go back to school, nothing will help you anyway.

Its called due diligence, and on the most basic level, as in, reading the fucking box. Don't pass that bottom barrel intelligence issue over to companies. Its bad form. People need to go to school and learn. We're already devolving into utter stupidity as it is.

 

[Hecate91]

Someone would expect the 9060xt to be ~at least 80$ cheaper than the 5060ti 16gb

The 9060XT is $110 cheaper than the 5060Ti.

Spoiler

Surely amd is also being egregious with putting 8gb on 9060xt as well, right?

Do you have to take every chance to bash on AMD? But they're simply following the market leader with 8GB cards, Nvidia is clearly being the most egregious since they're charging more for an 8GB card.

 

[JustBenching]

Then call it a RX 9060XT-B (or RTX 5060Ti-B) for Budget and I will have no issue with it.

Expecting every non-informed person out there to clearly understand the potential performance penalties between a [9060XT / 5060Ti] 8GB card and 16GB card is disingenuous.
They will simply see that it is the exact same model, and that one is cheaper.

I understand the need/desire for AMD/NV/etc. to offer Budget offerings... but they should clearly differentiate them as so.
The consumer can still vote with their wallet, if they want the budget offering or not, but passing a budget offering off as the premium option is very scuzzy in my eyes.

Printing extra letters/numbers on boxes is cheap; they have to do it anyways to show that one is an 8GB card, and the other is 16GB.
So, just spend these cheap extra letters/numbers on clearly differentiating the two products.

EDIT:

Perhaps call them "Platinum" models?
Makes them still seem high-end, but still clearly different than the standard XT/Ti designations?

Feels like we took a 180 spin. I very clearly remember a point in time that the complaint was that the average joe buys gpus based on the amount of vram on the box and so companies keep adding more vram to upsell useless cards. The same think with core counts in cpus.

Now you are saying the average joe doesn't understand what vram is and how 16 is higher than 8 but he knows what a 5060ti is?

 

[outlw6669]

Seriously? That says MUCH more about YOU than anyone else.

I run a PC shop, soooo maybe.. And believe me, NONE of them will fail to understand the difference between "9060XT-8GB" and "9060XT-16GB".

Wait, who's the one with the ego? Look in a mirror...

An asshole, yes, but I would not consider myself to have that much of an ego.

Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to attack anyone here, I just truly believe that the vast majority of people out there will not be able to tell the difference between the 8GB and 16GB cards.
Everyone has their own knowledge areas, and lack that knowledge in many other areas.
I would say that anyone visiting a tech site like TPU, or even a real PC shop (probably a PITA, but still seems like a great job to have ) to be quite knowledgeable about... tech stuff!
Based on my contacts with a wide variety of persons without an inclination to tech stuff, though, it is my ardent belief that they are clueless to what that magical box with wires on it does

 

[JustBenching]

The 9060XT is $110 cheaper than the 5060Ti.

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Do you have to take every chance to bash on AMD? But they're simply following the market leader with 8GB cards, Nvidia is clearly being the most egregious since they're charging more for an 8GB card.

Not in EU it isnt.

Id ask you the same. So Jensen Huang is basically amds acting ceo is your argument, since whatever he wants - amd employees do. Kk, gotcha.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I would say that anyone visiting a tech site like TPU, or even a real PC shop (probably a PITA, but still seems like a great job to have ) to be quite knowledgeable about... tech stuff!

Not at all. Most of the people who come into my shop are coming in for guidance and insight on a PC upgrade or purchase. Most people just want their systems to work, they don't care or want to understand how they work. However, that in no way means they're stupid or incapable of understanding the differences in specs. Most of them are very smart, they're just not technology literate. They come to people like me to help them get what they need to do what they want to do.

 

[Vayra86]

An asshole, yes, but I would not consider myself to have that much of an ego.

Don't get me wrong, I am not trying to attack anyone here, I just truly believe that the vast majority of people out there will not be able to tell the difference between the 8GB and 16GB cards.
Everyone has their own knowledge areas, and lack that knowledge in many other areas.
I would say that anyone visiting a tech site like TPU, or even a real PC shop (probably a PITA, but still seems like a great job to have ) to be quite knowledgeable about... tech stuff!
Based on my contacts with a wide variety of persons without an inclination to tech stuff, though, it is my ardent belief that they are clueless to what that magical box with wires on it does

The groups both exist, as far as I can tell from 30 odd years of experience.

But really, its quite common to be expected to have done some form of due diligence whenever one buys something. Just like how we expect people to read road signs and adhere to traffic rules. And similarly, there's a bunch that dgaf about that, and get themselves into trouble, there are also a bunch of people who do watch out and stick to the rules and still get unlucky, and then there's a vast majority that does inform themselves and also doesn't get unlucky and they're quite fine with all of it.

As a baseline... I don't think we should have a world that caters to the bottom of the ladder of whatever quality you look at in humans. If humans need assistance, sure, facilitate it. But we need to have some basic expectations of one another, too.

 

[JustBenching]

The groups both exist, as far as I can tell from 30 odd years of experience.

But really, its quite common to be expected to have done some form of due diligence whenever one buys something. Just like how we expect people to read road signs and adhere to traffic rules. And similarly, there's a bunch that dgaf about that, and get themselves into trouble, there are also a bunch of people who do watch out and stick to the rules and still get unlucky, and then there's a vast majority that does inform themselves and also doesn't get unlucky and they're quite fine with all of it.

As a baseline... I don't think we should have a world that caters to the bottom of the ladder of whatever quality you look at in humans. If humans need assistance, sure, facilitate it. But we need to have some basic expectations of one another, too.

As someone thats trying to completely change my diet to super healthy options i can confidently say gpu companies are saints compared to the food industry. They are actively trying to mislead you over there, see the uncured meat for example, insinuating that they dont have salt but it turns out they contain more sodium than cured meat, lol. I found hundreds of such examples the last month that im taking care of my diet.

And here we are arguing whether or not 8 is different enough to 16 in order to not get someone confused

 

[Rightness_1]

And I can imagine the cries from the people here that think you are insane and attack you if you think you need more than 8GB of VRAM, and that no game will ever need more than that...

 

[b1k3rdude]

All I have to say is -

 

[Aapje]

A lot of these cards will go into prebuilds, so they can scam less knowledgeable consumers with a system that needs to be replaced soon.

 

[pressing on]

The 5060 vs 9060XT 8GB will be the most interesting to me.

Mindfactory.de sales as at this posting are 5060 8GB 280, 9060XT 8GB 30 and 9060XT 16GB 910.

 

[SOAREVERSOR]

Most people aren't even half serious gamers. They bought a card to play the odd game every week or so, because they have other priorities, and they know jack shit about anything regarding VRAM or horsepower. That's the :1 here, the crowd that is liable to get a card recommended to them from a retailer instead of doing homework.

They don't upgrade frequently either, but it is a large group.

Is that the demographic you want to base yourself on? Be my guest lol, why don't you order a few x60s while you're at it. Or 8GB AMD cards for that matter... They're just as bad in 2025, simply very bad purchase choices. They'll run games. But so does a half decent IGP that said users probably already have.

Most PC gamers are on a 1080p monitor and are not running full details and not really playing AAA games and as long as it's a potato it works.

Historically a way to milk gamers was buy selling cards with more VRAM than needed as people would assume a shittier card with more VRAM was vaster than a faster card with less VRAM because of the numbers on the box.

 

[LastDudeALive]

Mindfactory.de sales as at this posting are 5060 8GB 280, 9060XT 8GB 30 and 9060XT 16GB 910.

Mindfactory has never once reported sales numbers remotely close to actual usage numbers. All you have to do is look at the Steam Hardware survey to see how unrepresentative they are. At this point, if Mindfactory says the 9060 XT is outselling the 5060 3/1, I'd bet $10,000 the overall numbers are the other way around.

 

[Bomby569]

so all his good with the world, people aren't buying the thing everyone was complaining about, and someone that wants it can still have the option to get one... right
oh god what is going on with the comments



the only problem is the pricing, stop complaining about people having more choices.

 

[PixelTech]

Mmm, NV did move to GDDR7 VRAM for some models for the 50 series. When RAM is new, it's more expensive to produce at first. So likely 8GB models are there till GDDR7 drops in price and more 16GB models can stock the shelves. Then 8 models may stop being produced for retailers and online shopping. 8GB models eventually sell off and 8GB models may still be produced for system integrators/prebuilts.
That's at least what the PC DIY gamer thinks will happen. But for the business, if the 8GB models, they sell, and then they make more. They like making money and for their share holders. Not like NV wants do what's good for the market... or do they? idk

Also, a generation of new cards take time to develop. That in mind, the planning and developing started a year or 2, educated guess, before the release of the first models released.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

Wouldn't be a discussion on TPU about VRAM without devolving into a slapfight!

I feel we haven't beaten the "8GB is fine for $200, its not fine for $400" horse yet so I'll cover that base unless I missed something.

 

[lexluthermiester]

As a baseline... I don't think we should have a world that caters to the bottom of the ladder of whatever quality you look at in humans. If humans need assistance, sure, facilitate it. But we need to have some basic expectations of one another, too.

This! Yes! We, as a civilization, did not get to where we are now by chance. We got here by co-operation, delegation and education. No one person can do everything, but a lot of people sharing the workload, knowledge base and responsibilities of progress can move mountains. That conveniently swings us right around to this article. Most people are aiming for something higher than an 8GB card, but not all, and that's ok.

I feel we haven't beaten the "8GB is fine for $200, its not fine for $400" horse yet so I'll cover that base unless I missed something.

Welcome to world economics in 2025. It sucks. So are we done with that now?

 

[Aapje]

Mindfactory has never once reported sales numbers remotely close to actual usage numbers. All you have to do is look at the Steam Hardware survey to see how unrepresentative they are. At this point, if Mindfactory says the 9060 XT is outselling the 5060 3/1, I'd bet $10,000 the overall numbers are the other way around.

Yeah, it's only one country and then only the desktop home builders, so it is a tiny part of the market globally.

 

[DarkDreams]

Nvidia: Here are two 5060 Ti models for you. One at $379 and one at $429 but with double the memory.
Reaction:
Reviewers and gamers bashing online the 8GB model.

AMD pricing it's RX 9060 XT with 16GB of VRAM at $349, lower than the 8GB model from Nvidia, while offering comparable performance
Reaction:
Reviewers and gamers reacting in a positive way to the 16GB model


So, what would someone expect a few weeks later as the logical result?

Gamers Reject RTX 5060 Ti 8 GB — Outsold 16:1 by 16 GB Model​

At Nvidia headquarters while reading the article

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At AMD's headquarter while reading the article and waiting for customers to buy the RX 9060XT 16GB model
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The 9060 XT 16GB has sold over 950 times compared to the 1600 the 5060 Ti 16GB sold. You pretend like nobody bought the AMD cards.

Maybe these console ports are just poorly made? In Spider-Man you've got the 7600 XT barely beating the 4060 (expected) and losing to the 8GB 3060-Ti. And with TLOU: P1 the 3060 12GB gets the same performance as the 4060 8GB (expected), while the 7600 XT loses to the 8GB 3070.

These seem to be edge cases where some extra VRAM provides benefits when comparing some equally strong cards but not when comparing others. There's no apparent point where performance drops off a cliff, like you'd expect if shared memory in system RAM needed to be utilized. TLOU: P1 also required like 20 minutes of shader compilation, and would frequently crash on Nvidia GPUs. I don't think the devs put a ton of time or effort into these games, and it obviously shows in areas beyond pure performance. If there's no other examples beyond poorly done Sony ports, that's not a very convincing argument.

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This is what an actual VRAM limitation looks like. 12GB and below, literally not working. 16GB and above, constrained by horsepower, not memory (except for the 6700 XT and 7700 XT, you go little buddies!)

It is literally the exact same card just with less VRAM performing worse in the same test. What else could be causing this performance drop other than lacking VRAM. That is the whole point of saying the card needs more than 8GB. As for badly optimized console ports: These will continue to be a thing and if you want to play them, you need the hardware to do so. Future consoles will not have less or even the same amounts of RAM but more, consequentially ported games will continue to have higher hardware requirements.

 

[john_]

The 9060 XT 16GB has sold over 950 times compared to the 1600 the 5060 Ti 16GB sold. You pretend like nobody bought the AMD cards.

The last time I was excited reading about how company A outsells company B, was in 2017 when we where learning what a success Ryzen was. And it was, in the DIY market that in the end was about 5-6%. It took years for AMD and Ryzen to become the major brand in CPUs and it also needed Intel doing one mistake after the other, with one exception. Hybrid CPUs that almost gave them back the market share AMD grabbed in a period of 3-4 years.
So, while the numbers of Mindfactory are good, I don't expect market share miracles. I see in Steam Survey almost all Blackwell GPUs getting in it's charts and that's something we keep seeing all the time. New Nvidia models getting in Steam Survey and AMD models, no matter how good they are and how good they (semm to) sell and for how long they sell, not being there. So, explain to me why I would have to be excited seeing AMD GPUs selling in a couple of retail stores well, when they don't even get in the bottom of the charts of Steam Survey. I want to see AMD mentioned in places that are counting millions, not hundrent of users.

 

[Aapje]

Why are you guys talking about AMD vs Nvidia market share? This is about VRAM, regardless of manufacturer.