9800x3d temps

[abdulhkeem]

so i built a 9800x3d system but i am really nervous about the temps i am getting so when i have a/c on in the room i get 45-50 range on idle but whithout it it stays in the 50's and gaming goes pretty much near 75 without a/c never actually got 75 but 74 i live in a hot climate easily above 45 in the summer "now" room temp near 26-30's.
are those temps fine or did i mess up the thermal paste application?
specs:
MB asus x870e-e
CPU 9800x3d
cooler Noctua NH-U12A push/pull stock fans
GPU Asus Tuf 4070 ti
PSU Corsair HX1000i
SSD WD SN850X

 

[Subtilizer]

so i built a 9800x3d system but i am really nervous about the temps i am getting so when i have a/c on in the room i get 45-50 range on idle but whithout it it stays in the 50's and gaming goes pretty much near 75 without a/c never actually got 75 but 74 i live in a hot climate easily above 45 in the summer "now" room temp near 26-30's.
are those temps fine or did i mess up the thermal paste application?
specs:
MB asus x870e-e
CPU 9800x3d
cooler Noctua NH-U12A push/pull stock fans
GPU Asus Tuf 4070 ti
PSU Corsair HX1000i
SSD WD SN850X

You won't believe it, but I also have 48-50 degrees at idle with this processor (R7 9800X3D), and I'm using it with the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 Pro ARGB White. At first, I thought my water cooling was broken, but when I load Aida64, I only have 70-72 degrees at most, which is normal. For some reason, before the summer, I had a maximum of 40-42 degrees in idle mode, but after the summer, the temperature suddenly increased to 50 degrees, which is 7-8 degrees higher than before. I think it's because of the summer! It's a good thing that I found someone with the same problem as me.

 

[thesmokingman]

Those are decent temps given the really high summer ambient for your area.

 

[Athlonite]

cooler Noctua NH-U12A push/pull stock fans

That's your problem and those ambient temps are pretty high which leads to insufficient cooling, air cooling is good if you have reasonable ambient air temps (18~25c) but you don't you should go for a 360mm AIO instead

Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 Pro ARGB White.

That cooler is known to have seating issues you may need to try reseating it as when it's seated right it's a great cooler so I'd suggest taking it off repasting the cold plate and reseat it and see how you go just take you time and don't rush it

 

[evernessince]

It's probably the IOD hotspot. I get around the same temps but the cores sit 18c lower.

 

[abdulhkeem]

thanks for all the replies now i am relieved.
i tried water cooling first, but dirt gets stuck in the fins and no real way to clean it so i switched to air wich basically killed the h100i temps i was getting. and i stuck with air maybe because of te humidity here aio's can't work good?!
thanks again guys.

 

[AusWolf]

thanks for all the replies now i am relieved.
i tried water cooling first, but dirt gets stuck in the fins and no real way to clean it so i switched to air wich basically killed the h100i temps i was getting. and i stuck with air maybe because of te humidity here aio's can't work good?!
thanks again guys.

Don't worry about it. What matters is that your temps are OK.

 

[RootinTootinPootin]

its on the same boat as the 9700X its literally hot, I need 3x360MM rad space for a custom loop to always keep the temps in check (PBO with +200 offset and a scalar of 5, CO of -22 to -25)

 

[abdulhkeem]

i got mine to stabilize by tweaking many bios settings PBO curve optimizer to -40 load line calibration to level 1 and then watched a youtube video on how to get even lower temps with PBO limits PPT 115 TDC 90 EDC 105.

 

[Subtilizer]

i got mine to stabilize by tweaking many bios settings PBO curve optimizer to -40 load line calibration to level 1 and then watched a youtube video on how to get even lower temps with PBO limits PPT 115 TDC 90 EDC 105.

Did the PBO limits PPT 115 TDC 90 EDC 105 help you reduce your idle temperature?

 

[abdulhkeem]

nope, all the same i was getting 90's so did my research and got to that.

 

[Grimling]

your temps are actually very good. i have the same cpu and an arctic 360 aio and my temps are much higher on load. i limited the temp in bios to 85C and under full load in some cases it hits that, especially now with higher temps in the summer. i also have under-volt of -10 in curve optimizer. that helps alot.
everything under 80C with full load is very good for this cpu i would say. in idle i am in the 40ishC range. in gaming in the 50-60C range.

 

[freeagent]

its on the same boat as the 9700X its literally hot, I need 3x360MM rad space for a custom loop to always keep the temps in check (PBO with +200 offset and a scalar of 5, CO of -22 to -25)

For that puny CPU?

 

[Subtilizer]

your temps are actually very good. i have the same cpu and an arctic 360 aio and my temps are much higher on load. i limited the temp in bios to 85C and under full load in some cases it hits that, especially now with higher temps in the summer. i also have under-volt of -10 in curve optimizer. that helps alot.
everything under 80C with full load is very good for this cpu i would say. in idle i am in the 40ishC range. in gaming in the 50-60C range.

I have the same water cooling, the same processor, the same curve optimization -28, I get 50 degrees in idle, but in games I also get 50-53 degrees, what am I doing wrong? Is it possible that the reason for such high temperatures in idle is the frame under AM5? (Original Thermalright AM5 V2 CPU mounting frame and AM5 Secure Frame bending correction) ??? Can this frame be the reason?

 

[freeagent]

You get 50 idle, so your fans and pump are all running at low speed? And when you play a game fans and all that ramp up a bit and you see 55-60 in game? Nothing wrong with that and totally normal.

 

[Grimling]

I have the same water cooling, the same processor, the same curve optimization -28, I get 50 degrees in idle, but in games I also get 50-53 degrees, what am I doing wrong? Is it possible that the reason for such high temperatures in idle is the frame under AM5? (Original Thermalright AM5 V2 CPU mounting frame and AM5 Secure Frame bending correction) ??? Can this frame be the reason?

This is normal, because the SoC complex is constantly in the around the 50C range, even in idle. That increases your reported CPU-Temp, but the actual CPU-Cores are much lower than that in idle. This is just how the CPU is reporting the Temp. So 53C in idle is normal, you do nothing wrong.
you can even check this with hwinfo.

 

[Subtilizer]

You get 50 idle, so your fans and pump are all running at low speed? And when you play a game fans and all that ramp up a bit and you see 55-60 in game? Nothing wrong with that and totally normal.

The point is that the pump runs at 2700 RPM when idle and around 2800 RPM when under load, but it runs quite quietly. The water cooling fans run at 1600 RPM, and the case fans run at 1000 RPM. The fact is that even if I set the pump speed to 2500 or 3000 RPM, it doesn't change the situation, but if the pump was malfunctioning, I would have had 70 degrees at idle and under 90 degrees in games, but that's not the case. I'm inclined to blame the black pressure frame under the AM5 socket. I recently purchased the Arctic Liquid Freezer III 360 Pro ARGB White water cooling system, so I don't think it's the issue.

 

[Besensac]

I have the same water cooling, the same processor, the same curve optimization -28, I get 50 degrees in idle, but in games I also get 50-53 degrees, what am I doing wrong? Is it possible that the reason for such high temperatures in idle is the frame under AM5? (Original Thermalright AM5 V2 CPU mounting frame and AM5 Secure Frame bending correction) ??? Can this frame be the reason?

Have you checked hardware info?
I did undervolt to negative 30 and dropped my temps a lot and I can run my Lian Li 360 in silent mode.
That 50C is probably the hottest spot on your CPU.

I have 50C on idle but this is the hottest spot on CPU.
All cores are actually below 40C.

I get 54-55C while gaming, after the game loads stuff.

 

[Subtilizer]

This is normal, because the SoC complex is constantly in the around the 50C range, even in idle. That increases your reported CPU-Temp, but the actual CPU-Cores are much lower than that in idle. This is just how the CPU is reporting the Temp. So 53C in idle is normal, you do nothing wrong.
you can even check this with hwinfo.

The SoC is at 40 degrees, but I keep getting 50 degrees when idle.

Have you checked hardware info?
I did undervolt to negative 30 and dropped my temps a lot and I can run my Lian Li 360 in silent mode.
That 50C is probably the hottest spot on your CPU.

I have 50C on idle but this is the hottest spot on CPU.
All cores are actually below 40C.


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I get 54-55C while gaming, after the game loads stuff.

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This is true, but the processor chip itself heats up to 49-50 degrees Celsius.

 

[Grimling]

exactly, the 50C CPU-Temp in idle is the highest reported SoC (CPU IOD) temp, while the CPU-cores are in the 30ish C in idle here.
So the CPU will always report the highest component and so in idle, that is the SoC.
Seems to be confusing for people.

 

[Subtilizer]

exactly, the 50C CPU-Temp in idle is the highest reported SoC (CPU IOD) temp, while the CPU-cores are in the 30ish C in idle here.
So the CPU will always report the highest component and so in idle, that is the SoC.
Seems to be confusing for people.

Does this mean that I don't need to worry about the temperature of the crystal itself anymore? I need to focus on the temperature of individual nuclei, right?

 

[freeagent]

Seems to be confusing for people.

Its normal..

 

[jaggerwild]

Go outside and play, it’s Summer!!! Save computing for winter……

 

[freeagent]

Go outside and play, it’s Summer!!!

My kids are sleeping still, long day at the beach yesterday

 

[abdulhkeem]

Have you checked hardware info?
I did undervolt to negative 30 and dropped my temps a lot and I can run my Lian Li 360 in silent mode.
That 50C is probably the hottest spot on your CPU.

I have 50C on idle but this is the hottest spot on CPU.
All cores are actually below 40C.


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I get 54-55C while gaming, after the game loads stuff.

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i just checked with libre hardware monitor and behold CCD1 really IS in the 30's LoL.
thanks man!