AMD Radeon RX 9070 XT Gains 9% Performance at 1440p with Latest Driver, Beats RTX 5070 Ti

[JustBenching]

The point of the video was to take the review data for the 9070 XT and 5070 Ti, and compare that to what we’re getting now, using the same games and settings featured in the review. This gives us a look at how things have progressed after 4 months, are the margins still the same or has one card improved more than the other? I wasn’t the first to notice that for whatever reason the 9070 XT had improved in a number of games. @pcgameshardware first reported a 13% increase in performance for the 9070 XT in Hunt Showdown 1896, 13% in Space Marine 2, 24% for Forza Motorsport, 17% for Indiana Jones and the Great Circle, 23% for Half-Life Ray Traced and 14% for Portal RTX. Outside of that they tested a range of games I didn’t, meaning many of the 16 games I tested weren’t featured in their content, so I was keen to see what changes might be seen in those titles. The gains for the 9070 XT and RDNA 4 series in general aren’t just a result of newer drivers, they’re likely a combination of things, such as game updates, platform updates and perhaps even Windows updates. So a simple driver test where you compare the release driver with the latest driver won’t necessarily show the same gains for all games, as all other updates have already taken place. Just to be clear that wasn’t the purpose of this content, and I think I explained the idea behind the video quite well. As stated in the video the idea was to take the outdated review data for the 9070 XT and 5070 Ti, and compare that to what we’re seeing today. My mistake was focusing on drivers as being the leading cause for the performance gains, which was an assumption on my part.

So how did we get to "finewine" which traditionally refers to drivers? Come on now man.

This is the latest review from computerbase - published yesterday. The 9070xt is barely beating the 4070ti S...

 

[Krit]

So how did we get to "finewine" which traditionally refers to drivers? Come on now man.

This is the latest review from computerbase - published yesterday. The 9070xt is barely beating the 4070ti S...

It does not work like that if HW unboxed video would be wrong it would be taken down almost immediately and he is not only. Different settings different testing areas. You can not buy reputation.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Drivers or not the end result is the same now RX 9070 XT is as fast as RTX 5070 Ti that's the most important thing.

AMD have less budget for game optimization etc.... If we look at transistor count and good optimization AMD probably would be slightly ahead of RTX 5070 Ti in raster.

OK but, genuine question. When has it not been?

 

[Tomorrow]

OK but, genuine question. When has it not been?

Only someone who doesn't know history would ask such a question. Some people have spent their entire adult lives with Nvidia's domination so they dont believe things were ever different...

 

[Dr. Dro]

Only someone who doesn't know history would ask such a question. Some people have spent their entire adult lives with Nvidia's domination so they dont believe things were ever different...

It's not that deep, both are 3 month old products... and they've always offered about the exact same amount of performance, a W here, another there for each side. Any way you go you'll have a solid experience, and in this case all you have to do is see if the nvidia goods (studio drivers, RTX ecosystem, NVENC, CUDA support) are worth the premium for your use case

 

[Dahita]

Can you elaborate on the driver problem? In my opinion 5080 is the worst card to buy. Either 5070 Ti or 5090, but 5080 is a waste of sand.
But if you're happy paying $600 more (almost the price of a second 9070 XT) for less than 20% more performance at the same 16GB ram then who am i to judge.

Obviously your analysis is not shared, but who am I to change your mind.

Regarding the issue, it seems I had a driver corruption. I blamed the 9070 XT on graphics not looking good, but then upon switching with a 5080, I had performance issues. I had to remove the drivers fully with a specific program, reinstall, then everything worked well again. something to keep in mind, I loved that 9070 XT (Asrock Taichi model).

 

[Visible Noise]

Hardware Unboxed released a podcast that responds to this controversy. They admit their testing mistakes like failing to control for things outside of the drivers that could have sped things up like the operating system updates or game updates, mislabeling the results as "Release Drivers" and "Latest Drivers" instead of "Release Data" and "Latest Data", and drawing a bad conclusion that the speedup is due to the drivers without better data to back it up. They admit that they should have used an up-to-date system where everything was tested with up-to-date everything except for the review driver for that test to control for all of the other possible factors and have that data in hand before drawing any conclusions. Basically, what can be concluded using the initial tests is that the RX 9070 XT is faster than it was during the pre-release testing, but the reason why cannot be inferred from that data.

I’m afraid to ask how many clicks this video got.

And no, these mush brains aren’t getting one from me