I doubt they would make them cheaper just because they are small and generally uselessAs long as it stays small in proportion I'll be happy. I'm glad AMD doesn't waste the die space. A 2D blitter is all that's needed for window compositing.
I doubt they would make them cheaper just because they are small and generally uselessAs long as it stays small in proportion I'll be happy. I'm glad AMD doesn't waste the die space. A 2D blitter is all that's needed for window compositing.
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Strix point is a monolithic die that is also wired for gddr, normal ryzen chips have the igpu on the io die which is tiny and just quadrupling the number of CU on that isn’t going to make it all that much biggerMaking the GPU bigger does increase the price though. That's already been clearly demonstrated with the MAX 300 range, aka Strix Halo. They're basically exactly what you've requested - A full blown chiplet set with a bloated I/O die containing a 8060 class GPU.
As I first stated, those sorts of APU packages will come along later.
It looks like it had always been a single controller, on the AM4/AM5 platforms, that managed multiple channels. To always effect 128-bit wide operation, filling one request at a time.I've gathered the dual memory controllers are for "single channel, per controller" operation but, could this lay the foundation for 'not-quad channel' (in the same vein of DDR5's 'not-ECC')?
Basically, I'm thinking:
Each memory controller might not be 'fully loaded' with only 1 DIMM attached, and 2DIMMs per controller provides more bandwidth.
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Strix Point can not use GDDR. Funnily they probably could add a GDDR7 memory controller if they got rid of the useless NPU which is a literal waste of sand.Strix point is a monolithic die that is also wired for gddr, normal ryzen chips have the igpu on the io die which is tiny and just quadrupling the number of CU on that isn’t going to make it all that much bigger
Could have sworn it used gddr, but yes it’s lpddr5 they surrounded the Soc with like they do a gpu with gddrStrix Point can not use GDDR. Funnily they probably could add a GDDR7 memory controller if they got rid of the useless NPU which is a literal waste of sand.
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That's true, but your post just make me think that a GDDR APU would rock.Could have sworn it used gddr, but yes it’s lpddr5 they surrounded the Soc with like they do a gpu with gddr
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Exactly, that's what I meant. Even GDDR isn't too expensiveSony's and MSFT's Game Consoles, would indicate that they do indeed rock (vs. DDR System Memory sharing).
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i dont know of any mobile 12core CCD.Why limit yourself? Mobile Ryzen has 12 core CCDs.
Also, please learn what an E core is, and what a ryzen C core is. These are not the same thing.
CAMM2 modules are having the same signal integrity issues that DIMM modules have trying to push past 6000 mhz.
It'd be a lot easier to simply put a x3d cache on their APUs instead of another memory controller. Not to mention that a triple bus system is going to be significantly more expensive for the end consumer than a dual pus system like we have now.
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They probably the 2 CCX on Strix Point. Its wrong but I get how one would make that mistake.i dont know of any mobile 12core CCD.
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Here we go again...
Tell us what desktop applications need dozens of cores other than video encoding by the CPU?
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Intel had 6 core chips for 379$ since 2014 my man.Tell us why Intel thought it was okay to keep us on 4 Core / 8 Thread CPUs when the market screams for more?
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Oh really? That means with how much the 9600X costs a 6-core hasn't really dropped in price.Intel had 6 core chips for 379$ since 2014 my man.
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JFC man get your facts straight. 5820K. Just three minutes is all it takes for your posts to not be ignorant.The only 6 core that Intel sold in 2014 was the $600 i7 4930K, which would be $800 today. Competition from AMD is a good thing or we'd probably still be stuck on quad cores unless buying a ridiculously expensive HEDT system. CPU's have gotten faster and cheaper.
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6 cores have dropped in price, just not amds specifically. Intel offers mutli core cpus for cheaps.Oh really? That means with how much the 9600X costs a 6-core hasn't really dropped in price.
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Those are designed differently, the AI HX chips are on a single monolithic die. 4 zen 5, and 8 zen 5c cores, plus the igpu on a single die.They probably the 2 CCX on Strix Point. Its wrong but I get how one would make that mistake.
When? In same month in the same year with AMD 64 x2 and Intel CPU Pentium D in the name of the true was not multicore, just 2*1 cores glued together.Let’s not forget to Intel shipped the first multicore x86 processor.
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Yes, but the Zen 5 is on one CCX and the Zen 5c is on another. Don't confuse CCDs (compute chiplets), and CCX (core complexes of which mulitple can exist on a monolithic die).Those are designed differently, the AI HX chips are on a single monolithic die. 4 zen 5, and 8 zen 5c cores, plus the igpu on a single die.