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1st PC Build for Video editing and Gaming around $1K

NotMyRealName

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Hello all this is my first PC build and therefore I would like some feedback before I make purchases.
I will be using this PC for editing 4k videos in Adobe Premier Pro and for the occasional video game playing/Netflix/Youtube.
I want this PC to be fast, and great at multi tasking.

Here are the parts I have put together for the build...
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PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($175.69 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Samsung)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($42.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Titanium Video Card ($479.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $959.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-20 11:02 EDT-0400


Here are a few questions I have.
  • Do I need a sound card?
  • Do I need a wireless network adapter?
  • Why don't I have the option to add a optical drive to the PC?
  • What monitor would you recommend for under $300?
  • I am leaning towards windows 7 but is there any advantage on getting Windows 10?
  • What am I missing besides the keyboard/mouse/speakers, and OS?
 
Just some different parts i would choose, general theme seems good.
Firstly, the 860 evo is cheaper and from what i can tell is almost the same as the 850 evo.
Also the power supply, there is a focus gold 650w from seasonic for 60$ which i would aim for, 550w is plenty but its the same price so go for the 650w.
I do not know the difference between the 2600 and the 1600, you might need an updated bios, perhaps a first gen ryzen to boot into bios to update it beforehand?
Not sure about this but if its possible i think go for the 2600 instead.

From what people are saying the new sound in motherboards is pretty good(the S1220) , the motherboard you picked has the ALC892 which is not exceptional but gets the job done i guess.
As for wireless its your option, you can add it later so if you do not need it now then dont buy one now, if you do then perhaps you can find a motherboard with AC included but it will cost around 100$.
You do not have the option for optical because the case you picked doesn't have a 3.5 bay.
Monitor is preference, you prioritize gaming or editing? For 300$ you can't pick one that does both at a reasonably good level.
 
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NotMyRealName said:
Hello all this is my first PC build and therefore I would like some feedback before I make purchases.
I will be using this PC for editing 4k videos in Adobe Premier Pro and for the occasional video game playing/Netflix/Youtube.
I want this PC to be fast, and great at multi tasking.

Here are the parts I have put together for the build...
​
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant

CPU: AMD - Ryzen 5 1600 3.2GHz 6-Core Processor ($175.69 @ OutletPC)
Motherboard: ASRock - AB350 Pro4 ATX AM4 Motherboard ($54.99 @ Newegg)
Memory: Team - Vulcan 16GB (2 x 8GB) DDR4-3000 Memory
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Samsung)
Storage: Western Digital - Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($42.89 @ OutletPC)
Video Card: MSI - GeForce GTX 1070 Ti 8GB Titanium Video Card ($479.99 @ Newegg)
Case: NZXT - S340 (Black) ATX Mid Tower Case ($59.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($45.98 @ Newegg)
Total: $959.52
Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available
Generated by PCPartPicker 2018-05-20 11:02 EDT-0400


Here are a few questions I have.
  • Do I need a sound card?
  • Do I need a wireless network adapter?
  • Why don't I have the option to add a optical drive to the PC?
  • What monitor would you recommend for under $300?
  • I am leaning towards windows 7 but is there any advantage on getting Windows 10?
  • What am I missing besides the keyboard/mouse/speakers, and OS?
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I've got to ask you a couple of questions. Will the computer not be near a modem or an ethernet jack in your apartment / home or office?

Would you consider yourself a professional or amateur video editor?
 
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Depending on the files size your working with and where your storing video files you might want to look into Western Digital 4TB/6TB blue drives if your price cautious.

250 and 1TB drive can be filed fast. 250 will probably just serve as a (current project) & 1TB can store but you have to think about the files sizes and amount of games you will be using.
 
NotMyRealName said:
Storage: Samsung - 850 EVO-Series 250GB 2.5" Solid State Drive ($99.99 @ Samsung)
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Highly recommend spending $15 more and getting the 960 EVO M.2 NVMe drive. Your chosen board supports it and it's 3-4 times faster for the same capacity:
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-960-EVO-Internal-MZ-V6E250BW/dp/B01LYFKX41/

NotMyRealName said:
Power Supply: Cooler Master - MasterWatt 550W 80+ Bronze Certified Semi-Modular ATX Power Supply ($45.98 @ Newegg)
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Might want to consider a little bit more powerful (600-620w) and definitely with better efficiency rating than bronze (aim for at least gold). Will cost a bit more up front but save money on the electric bill over its operational life span.

>Do I need a sound card?
No, motherboard has integrated audio.

>Do I need a wireless network adapter?
No, unless you can't hook a cable from your computer to your router.

>Why don't I have the option to add a optical drive to the PC?
All you need is a case with an external 5.25" bay and an available SATA port on the motherboard.

>What monitor would you recommend for under $300?
A fast VA 4K panel would be best.

>I am leaning towards windows 7 but is there any advantage on getting Windows 10?
Windows 7 is a decade old and going end of life January 14, 2020.
 
FordGT90Concept said:
Highly recommend spending $15 more and getting the 960 EVO M.2 NVMe drive. Your chosen board supports it and it's 3-4 times faster for the same capacity:
https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-960-EVO-Internal-MZ-V6E250BW/dp/B01LYFKX41/


Might want to consider a little bit more powerful (600-620w) and definitely with better efficiency rating than bronze (aim for at least gold). Will cost a bit more up front but save money on the electric bill over its operational life span.

>Do I need a sound card?
No, motherboard has integrated audio.

>Do I need a wireless network adapter?
No, unless you can't hook a cable from your computer to your router.

>Why don't I have the option to add a optical drive to the PC?
All you need is a case with an external 5.25" bay and an available SATA port on the motherboard.

>What monitor would you recommend for under $300?
A fast VA panel would be best. Are you making videos for 4K or 1080p? Your monitor should match the video content you intend to produce.

>I am leaning towards windows 7 but is there any advantage on getting Windows 10?
Windows 7 is a decade old and going end of life January 14, 2020.
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In that case he might consider W10 Enterprise LTSB/C
 
wolar said:
Also the power supply, there is a focus gold 650w from seasonic for 60$ which i would aim for, 550w is plenty but its the same price so go for the 650w.
I do not know the difference between the 2600 and the 1600, you might need an updated bios, perhaps a first gen ryzen to boot into bios to update it beforehand?
Not sure about this but if its possible i think go for the 2600 instead.
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Either that of a decent 500+W quality PSU. Cooler Master is not the best brand, get a seasonic.
OTher than that, it's pretty good.
 
wolar said:
That only works for large files, and for a 250gb drive used for main storage i doubt any benefit will be seen, if he will pay more for the storage then a 500gb 860 evo is the better choice.
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Huh? It's NVMe and unlimited by SATA. Lower latency and much higher throughput.
 
That PSU suks IMHO. I went through 3 of them last year and they all failed in less than 4 months each. I finally went to EVGA and have been going strong ever since :)
 
-Substandard ALC892 ... be aware of the other lomitations of a $54 NMoBo.

-Fast is relative to budget and expectations ... It's not the platform I would use for video editing or gaming.

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See gaming comments here
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_5_1600/21.html

-Seasonic S12 / M12s are oft avaible between $35 and $50
https://pcpartpicker.com/products/power-supply/#m=71&W=520,650&sort=price&page=1

-The Blue is inadequate for anything but archival storage. In gaming, an SSHD would be more than twice as fast ... also 50% faster than a WD Black. But a SSD scratch disk would be best for video editing

- At about $95 ya can usually find a MoBo w/ ALC1220 ... it's equivalent to a $75 sound card.

-For a laptop, wireless is a plus... for a desktop, generally not a consideration.... cabale offers much better performance, assuming of course, not limited by other componentry

- You don't hgave the option, only the the case didn't give you one... this "feature" is mostly selected by gamers who want a claner case aesthetic... doesn't make a lotta sense for video editing. The Phanteks Pro M generally goes for about $65-70

-I can not recommend any 4k monitor for $300

-All boxes here on Win 7

-Missing ... if ya need 'em:

Optical Drive
Case Fans
 
FordGT90Concept said:
Huh? It's NVMe and unlimited by SATA. Lower latency and much higher throughput.
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Which really matter only in full synthetic (snake)oil benchmarketing.
In real world use of home users differences have long been from small to marginal.
TechReport has had real world tests for very long time and there aren't big differences between most drives.
https://techreport.com/review/33545/samsung-970-evo-1-tb-ssd-reviewed/5

M2 has form factor advantage if case is running out of space or SATAs are needed for other things. (or not wanting cables in that see through case)
But real world performance wise there's no justification for paying luxury prices.
Besides video editing doesn't really need as much theoretical top speed as enough storage space...

NotMyRealName said:
for the occasional video game playing/Netflix/Youtube.
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For just occasional gaming spending half of budget to graphics card isn't sensible.
Especially when graphics cards aren't good at holding their value over time.
And there certainly aren't justifications for medieval design cheap component PSU in that situation.



John Naylor said:
-The Blue is inadequate for anything but archival storage. In gaming, an SSHD would be more than twice as fast ... also 50% faster than a WD Black. But a SSD scratch disk would be best for video editing

- At about $95 ya can usually find a MoBo w/ ALC1220 ... it's equivalent to a $75 sound card.
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Haven't yet seen SSHD with good NAND cache sizes.
Handfull of GBs just isn't really enough for modern games or that video work file caching.
So little sense to pay any notable premium for SSHD.
Heck, price premium used to be big enough for both HDD and lot bigger standard SSD for lot better caching possibility with Intel's SRT!
(up to 64GB of cache for any HDD/RAID array)

Wouldn't expect budget motherboards to have greatest integrated sound card implementation.
So most likely those are at level of say Audigy Fx.
 
Hello all sorry for the late reply. I made the mistake of confusing this forum with another and thought that no one replied to this specific topic.:oops::laugh:
Since this post I actually had a friend recommended me a few parts and have made some purchases but still need about half of the other components.
I can still cancel the orders if what I have purchased is a waste of money or if there are better options.

Before I begin to list what I have purchased I will write my intentions with this PC.
I grew a interest in videography and plan on editing 4k films, montages and documentaries with Premier Pro (1st program on my list to try)
I also would like this PC to play almost any game I throw at it. Although I am not a huge gamer there are some new games I am interested in playing.

I have zero experience editing videos. I live on the 2nd floor where the modem is located downstairs so I would need a wifi adapter although
I would be able to get a very long wire and snake it to my room but wouldn't that cause it to lose its signal strength?


Here is what I have purchased.
Here is what I have in my shopping cart.
What I still need
  • Decent monitor
  • PC cooler
  • Donations (joke)
Again thank you all for taking the time and helping a brother out.:toast:
 
I wouldn't be using a WD blue for your needs, more like a decent Seagate or WD black at 2TB+.
 
 
NotMyRealName said:
Well I just spoke to my mom about it and this method is out of the question. :/
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Maybe a P.o.E. adapter will be more suited than a wireless adapter as cable is unable to be run upstairs.
 
love videography, built beast video editing machine this winter

here are 3 things I see as important when video editing
1. big monitor, it just makes the workflow easier as you can have many things in front of you at the same time like long timeline, big live preview box, effect controls etc...
2 ram amount, I am constantly observing ram usage above 16gb, 32 is likely the sweet spot
3 live playback, your CPU will do great here
 
I'm all around TPU, mostly on the main site where all the good reviews are. And even tho i must admin this section of the forum it almost kinda helped me, until i decided to go rogue and do my own thing,... mostly the help system build part of the forum is the least usefull and the most controversed (toxic) cuz erveryone in their granda watches youtube videos and all of us think we are experts in building computers, at least amazing at giving advises.
Thus here is mine: DON'T!

Why would anyone wanna spend money o an a graphics card that will be zero value half the performance few months from now on, when after 3 years the new series will come out? Unless you are from USA where money is nothing. Here in the bad side of Europe, we're a bit tight, especially on the money.

Aaaaa i kid! Money is something everywhere. So don't waste it, you did not build so far, so why not take full advantage in a few more months to come? Think about it.
 
EsaT said:
TechReport has had real world tests for very long time and there aren't big differences between most drives.
https://techreport.com/review/33545/samsung-970-evo-1-tb-ssd-reviewed/5
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a) using Windows 8.1 instead of Windows 10 (which actually knows how to use NVMe performance).
b) I have a strong suspicion they're using MBR on the boot volume instead of UEFI which means the vast majority of the boot time is the BIOS considering life.

Two Windows 10 April update systems, both MSI motherboards, both installed on bootable GPT partitions via UEFI BIOS in an M.2 slot, Crucial MX300 (SATA) takes about 15 seconds to desktop where the Samsung 960 EVO (NVMe) takes about 8.

EsaT said:
M2 has form factor advantage if case is running out of space or SATAs are needed for other things. (or not wanting cables in that see through case)
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Sir, you need to do some reading on what NVMe is:
http://www.nvmexpress.org/

Specifically:
http://nvmexpress.org/wp-content/uploads/NVM-Express-1_3b-2018.05.04-ratified.pdf

Comparing SATA to NVMe is like comparing serial (as in RS-232) to SATA. All three are serial interfaces but that's where the similarities end.
 
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FordGT90Concept said:
a) using Windows 8.1 instead of Windows 10 (which actually knows how to use NVMe performance.
b) I have a strong suspicion they're using MBR on the boot volume instead of UEFI which means the vast majority of the boot time is the BIOS considering life.
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Well, here's some Windows 10 results:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Crucial/MX500_500_GB/7.html
Not much of difference to NVME drives...

And game level loading times:
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/Crucial/MX500_500_GB/12.html
 
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