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System Name | MSI GT77HX |
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Processor | Intel i9-13980HX |
Memory | 64 GB DDR5 @ 4800 mhz |
Video Card(s) | NVIDIA RTX 4090 Mobile |
Storage | 2 TB 980 Pro |
Display(s) | 4K/144 Hz Mini-LED |
Benchmark Scores | 23,616 Timespy Graphics |
Not sure if this is the right forum for such threads since laptops aren't built perse, but it seemed closer than any of the other forums.
I have a laptop with a 960M, but its performance is quite underwhelming.
Looking to replace it with a more powerful Pascal-driven laptop.
I take my laptop to work with me, and often game during downtime, so I do in fact, definitely want a laptop, not a desktop. Just figured I'd clarify before someone tried to convince me to avoid gaming on a laptop as is common for many people to do.
As far as budget is concerned, it's not super strict, but I'm definitely not looking to spend over $2,000. The cheaper the better, but I don't mind paying a decent bit for something that will be futureproofed. Absolutely not looking for anything with a GTX 1050, or 1050 TI. Mostly interested in laptops with either GTX 1060 or 1070, potentially a 1080 if there are any on great sales that result in them being in my budget. My goal basically is to save money, but sometimes spending more money saves you money in the longrun if the purchase is more future-proofed.
How crucial is VRAM likely to be in the near future? Would it be best to avoid anything with the 3 GB 1060, or will 3 GB likely be enough for the next few years?
Laptops I've been looking at so far include:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LXO0PO2/?tag=tec06d-20 It's the cheapest laptop I can find with a GTX 1060 in it.
$865.24 ASUS FX502VM
i5-6300HQ
16 GB DDR4 @ 2133 mhz
GTX 1060 3 GB
1 TB HDD @ 7200 RPM
1920x1080 TN Panel
I assume the i5-6300HQ will be fine for several years, though I'm not sure how I feel about buying a laptop with a processor slower than what I've used for the past few years (i7-4720HQ). This laptop has issues, it has the worst cpu, and display of any I've debated buying. It also has only 3 GB VRAM. On the plus side, it's cheap. Cheap is good.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072C1TM1D/?tag=tec06d-20
$999.99 Acer VN7-593G-70U4
i7-7700HQ
16 GB DDR4 @ 2400 mhz
GTX 1060 6 GB
512 GB SSD
1920x1080 IPS Panel
This likely seems better priced than the ASUS actually. It is however refurbished. It has a superior cpu though, a SSD, 3 extra GB on the videocard, and a IPS panel instead of the TN on the ASUS. Those benefits are probably worth the extra ~$130? I will likely wind up with at least 512 GB SSD in whatever laptop I get, but not having to buy it separately is nice. I currently have a 256 GB SSD, but it is an old 2.5", so it can't be used in a lot of modern laptops alongside a large storage HDD.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834154548
$1,019.00 MSI GE62VR
i7-6700HQ
GTX 1060 3 GB
1 TB HDD
256 GB SSD
1920x1080 IPS Panel
Has a $50 rebate, so is essentially $969. Better cpu than the ASUS, worse than the Acer. Unfortunately has 3 GB GTX 1060 like the ASUS. Does however have a superior IPs display and a 256 GB SSD for only $100 more than the ASUS. Seems like a good deal so long as the 3 GB GTX 1060 isn't be something to avoid.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834233185R
$1,098.00 GIGABYTE P57Wv6-NE2
i7-6700HQ
GTX 1060 6 GB
1 TB HDD
128 GB SSD
17.3" 1920x1080 IPS Display
Inferior CPU to the Acer despite being more expensive. Same 6 GB GTX 1060. More storage, but less space on SSD. Larger screen. Only real reason I can see to get this if there's reason to believe that it is better cooled than some of the other options due to being a 17.3" laptop as opposed to a smaller 15.6" model.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0711WXD7Y/?tag=tec06d-20
$1,338.99 Acer Predator G9-593-71EH
i7-7700HQ
16 GB DDR4 @ 2400 mhz
GTX 1070
1 TB HDD
256 GB SSD
1920x1080 IPS Panel with G-Sync
I'm unsure if it's worth spending the extra for the 1070. I think it probably is though so long as it is cooled well enough to still be working in a few years when a 1060 is less powerful than it is now and new games have higher system requirements.
In a desktop I'd definitely just get a 1060, because I could spend $210 less on a 1060 than a 1070, and then when the 1060 started to show its age I could spend the $210 saved now on a videocard stronger than a 1070. In a laptop though it is all or nothing, there won't be the option to upgrade the GPU down the line, I'll need to replace the whole system, which so long as the laptop continues to function long enough for a 1060 to become unoptimal means a 1070 could save me from needing to upgrade as soon as I would with a 1060.
Aside from being the cheapest laptop I could find with a GTX 1070 in it, it also has a G-Sync panel, something the cheaper options above lacked. It's also the first setup to come with both a HDD and a SSD right off the bat.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K1INYD0/?tag=tec06d-20
$1,353.99 ASUS ROG GL502VS-DB71
i7-6700HQ
16 GB DDR4 @ 2133 mhz
GTX 1070
1 TB HDD
256 GB SSD
1920x1080 IPS Panel with G-Sync
Seems a worse deal than the Acer above potentially. Is more expensive, has a slightly inferior CPU. Is however new, not refurbished, really only worth buying if there's reason to suspect that it is much better cooled than the Acer, or that the Acer being refurbished makes it less reliable than otherwise.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071KCV9S5/?tag=tec06d-20
$1,599.99 ASUS ROG G752VS-XB72K
i7-6820HK
32 GB DDR4 @ 2133 mhz
GTX 1070
1 TB HDD
256 GB SSD
17.3" IPS 1920x1080 G-Sync @ 75 hz
The cheaper GTX 1070 laptops were capped at 60 hz, this one at least has a 75 hz display. It also has a superior cpu. 6820HK is faster than a 6700HQ, slower than a 7700HQ, at stock speeds, but the 6820HK can be overclocked unlike other mobile cpus as it has an unlocked multiplier. Not sure there's much reason to overclock it though, but the option is there. Is a GTX 1070 actually powerful enough to make the bottleneck be the CPU? I doubt it.
It also has 32 GB DDR4, which I guess is cool? I never have to close browser windows again? Hell, can probably play 2 AAA titles at once, just need to alt+Tab between them as I see fit.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834725033R
$1,504.00 Aorus 15.6" X5 v6-PC3K3D
i7-6820HK
16 GB DDR4 @ 2133 mhz
GTX 1070
1 TB HDD
256 GB SSD
2880x1620 IPS Panel with G-Sync
Same processor as the more expensive ASUS above, less RAM, smaller display, but also higher resolution display. Not usually a fan of laptop that have 1440p or higher displays because so many laptops come equipped with such displays but lack the power to utilize them properly. The GTX 1070 in this particular model though likely can support such a high resolution. This vs. the ASUS would really be more a concern of cooling capability/expected longevity than the price difference or difference in displays.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0725WXVRG/?tag=tec06d-20
$1,956.99 Acer Predator 17x GX-792-703D
i7-7820HK
32 GB DDR4 @ 2400 mhz
GTX 1080
1 TB HDD
512 GB SSD
1920x1080 IPS Panel with G-Sync @ 75 hz
This is basically the top of my budget. It's the only model with a GTX 1080 that can be found for under 2k that I am aware of. It also has the fastest mobile processor in existence, and that's before overclocking it, which is doable on the 7820HK just like it is on the 6820HK. GTX 1080 seems a bit wasted on a 1080P display, at least it is 75 hz and has G-sync though. I'd imagine it should almost never budge from 75 fps.
Is there anything I didn't list that I should take a good look at? Anything I listed with known problems that would make it best to avoid?
I have a laptop with a 960M, but its performance is quite underwhelming.
Looking to replace it with a more powerful Pascal-driven laptop.
I take my laptop to work with me, and often game during downtime, so I do in fact, definitely want a laptop, not a desktop. Just figured I'd clarify before someone tried to convince me to avoid gaming on a laptop as is common for many people to do.
As far as budget is concerned, it's not super strict, but I'm definitely not looking to spend over $2,000. The cheaper the better, but I don't mind paying a decent bit for something that will be futureproofed. Absolutely not looking for anything with a GTX 1050, or 1050 TI. Mostly interested in laptops with either GTX 1060 or 1070, potentially a 1080 if there are any on great sales that result in them being in my budget. My goal basically is to save money, but sometimes spending more money saves you money in the longrun if the purchase is more future-proofed.
How crucial is VRAM likely to be in the near future? Would it be best to avoid anything with the 3 GB 1060, or will 3 GB likely be enough for the next few years?
Laptops I've been looking at so far include:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01LXO0PO2/?tag=tec06d-20 It's the cheapest laptop I can find with a GTX 1060 in it.
$865.24 ASUS FX502VM
i5-6300HQ
16 GB DDR4 @ 2133 mhz
GTX 1060 3 GB
1 TB HDD @ 7200 RPM
1920x1080 TN Panel
I assume the i5-6300HQ will be fine for several years, though I'm not sure how I feel about buying a laptop with a processor slower than what I've used for the past few years (i7-4720HQ). This laptop has issues, it has the worst cpu, and display of any I've debated buying. It also has only 3 GB VRAM. On the plus side, it's cheap. Cheap is good.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B072C1TM1D/?tag=tec06d-20
$999.99 Acer VN7-593G-70U4
i7-7700HQ
16 GB DDR4 @ 2400 mhz
GTX 1060 6 GB
512 GB SSD
1920x1080 IPS Panel
This likely seems better priced than the ASUS actually. It is however refurbished. It has a superior cpu though, a SSD, 3 extra GB on the videocard, and a IPS panel instead of the TN on the ASUS. Those benefits are probably worth the extra ~$130? I will likely wind up with at least 512 GB SSD in whatever laptop I get, but not having to buy it separately is nice. I currently have a 256 GB SSD, but it is an old 2.5", so it can't be used in a lot of modern laptops alongside a large storage HDD.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834154548
$1,019.00 MSI GE62VR
i7-6700HQ
GTX 1060 3 GB
1 TB HDD
256 GB SSD
1920x1080 IPS Panel
Has a $50 rebate, so is essentially $969. Better cpu than the ASUS, worse than the Acer. Unfortunately has 3 GB GTX 1060 like the ASUS. Does however have a superior IPs display and a 256 GB SSD for only $100 more than the ASUS. Seems like a good deal so long as the 3 GB GTX 1060 isn't be something to avoid.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834233185R
$1,098.00 GIGABYTE P57Wv6-NE2
i7-6700HQ
GTX 1060 6 GB
1 TB HDD
128 GB SSD
17.3" 1920x1080 IPS Display
Inferior CPU to the Acer despite being more expensive. Same 6 GB GTX 1060. More storage, but less space on SSD. Larger screen. Only real reason I can see to get this if there's reason to believe that it is better cooled than some of the other options due to being a 17.3" laptop as opposed to a smaller 15.6" model.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0711WXD7Y/?tag=tec06d-20
$1,338.99 Acer Predator G9-593-71EH
i7-7700HQ
16 GB DDR4 @ 2400 mhz
GTX 1070
1 TB HDD
256 GB SSD
1920x1080 IPS Panel with G-Sync
I'm unsure if it's worth spending the extra for the 1070. I think it probably is though so long as it is cooled well enough to still be working in a few years when a 1060 is less powerful than it is now and new games have higher system requirements.
In a desktop I'd definitely just get a 1060, because I could spend $210 less on a 1060 than a 1070, and then when the 1060 started to show its age I could spend the $210 saved now on a videocard stronger than a 1070. In a laptop though it is all or nothing, there won't be the option to upgrade the GPU down the line, I'll need to replace the whole system, which so long as the laptop continues to function long enough for a 1060 to become unoptimal means a 1070 could save me from needing to upgrade as soon as I would with a 1060.
Aside from being the cheapest laptop I could find with a GTX 1070 in it, it also has a G-Sync panel, something the cheaper options above lacked. It's also the first setup to come with both a HDD and a SSD right off the bat.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01K1INYD0/?tag=tec06d-20
$1,353.99 ASUS ROG GL502VS-DB71
i7-6700HQ
16 GB DDR4 @ 2133 mhz
GTX 1070
1 TB HDD
256 GB SSD
1920x1080 IPS Panel with G-Sync
Seems a worse deal than the Acer above potentially. Is more expensive, has a slightly inferior CPU. Is however new, not refurbished, really only worth buying if there's reason to suspect that it is much better cooled than the Acer, or that the Acer being refurbished makes it less reliable than otherwise.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B071KCV9S5/?tag=tec06d-20
$1,599.99 ASUS ROG G752VS-XB72K
i7-6820HK
32 GB DDR4 @ 2133 mhz
GTX 1070
1 TB HDD
256 GB SSD
17.3" IPS 1920x1080 G-Sync @ 75 hz
The cheaper GTX 1070 laptops were capped at 60 hz, this one at least has a 75 hz display. It also has a superior cpu. 6820HK is faster than a 6700HQ, slower than a 7700HQ, at stock speeds, but the 6820HK can be overclocked unlike other mobile cpus as it has an unlocked multiplier. Not sure there's much reason to overclock it though, but the option is there. Is a GTX 1070 actually powerful enough to make the bottleneck be the CPU? I doubt it.
It also has 32 GB DDR4, which I guess is cool? I never have to close browser windows again? Hell, can probably play 2 AAA titles at once, just need to alt+Tab between them as I see fit.
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834725033R
$1,504.00 Aorus 15.6" X5 v6-PC3K3D
i7-6820HK
16 GB DDR4 @ 2133 mhz
GTX 1070
1 TB HDD
256 GB SSD
2880x1620 IPS Panel with G-Sync
Same processor as the more expensive ASUS above, less RAM, smaller display, but also higher resolution display. Not usually a fan of laptop that have 1440p or higher displays because so many laptops come equipped with such displays but lack the power to utilize them properly. The GTX 1070 in this particular model though likely can support such a high resolution. This vs. the ASUS would really be more a concern of cooling capability/expected longevity than the price difference or difference in displays.
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0725WXVRG/?tag=tec06d-20
$1,956.99 Acer Predator 17x GX-792-703D
i7-7820HK
32 GB DDR4 @ 2400 mhz
GTX 1080
1 TB HDD
512 GB SSD
1920x1080 IPS Panel with G-Sync @ 75 hz
This is basically the top of my budget. It's the only model with a GTX 1080 that can be found for under 2k that I am aware of. It also has the fastest mobile processor in existence, and that's before overclocking it, which is doable on the 7820HK just like it is on the 6820HK. GTX 1080 seems a bit wasted on a 1080P display, at least it is 75 hz and has G-sync though. I'd imagine it should almost never budge from 75 fps.
Is there anything I didn't list that I should take a good look at? Anything I listed with known problems that would make it best to avoid?