ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Super TUF OC

[W1zzard]

The ASUS GeForce RTX 4070 Super TUF stands out with one of the strongest coolers in today's tests. Its dual BIOS feature, particularly the quiet mode BIOS, contributes to an exceptionally quiet operation, making it a standout option for those in search of a whisper-quiet gaming experience.

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[Dahita]

I don't see the added value over the Zotac version. I'm disappointed by Asus because both Tuf and Rog are now overpriced model lines.

 

[wheresmycar]

2% perf increase, power consumption increase not bad, temps looks good, noise level is probably the best selling point and no doubt +$90 sucks. I don't even know why i'm looking at these cards, not interested but what can u do i love looking at everything! Not always a fan of over-priced ASUS cards but i have to admit aesthetically from a vertical mount point of view, they look premium-enably fantastic (IMO)!

 

[SpaceAce]

Thank you @W1zzard for your outstanding reviews. I’m a long time reader, but registered just now in the forum to say thank you.

The Super reviews helped me to not hesitate to buy Asus 4070 Super Dual. I’ve owned three different Asus TUF cards and loved them all. But this time it didn’t really make sense to go with the TUF since the Dual stood up extremely good in your reviews. For the same price, sure, but I could buy the Dual to MSRP $744 here in Sweden. Asus TUF was widely available but the cheapest retailer (and not my preferred one) was $889. My preferred one charged $928 for TUF and $744 for Dual. I think you would have made the same choice when the difference is $184.

And yes, I know the prices are nuts here in Sweden, but if you need a GPU you need a GPU.

 

[Chrispy_]

What a f***ing joke. $90 (15%) more expensive for about a 2% increase, something you can almost certainly get with any $600 model since they also have at least that much headroom.

I'm so glad you review these, because at some point - once these have been sat on a shelf unsold for 6 months, they'll be priced differently - and then at least we'll know that the quiet cooler makes it a better choice than barebones cards, but the overclock here was within margin of error of all the cards tested so far.

I’ve owned three different Asus TUF cards and loved them all. But this time it didn’t really make sense to go with the TUF since the Dual stood up extremely good in your reviews.

Same - I've bought dozens of them across a few SKUs and they're perfectly decent cards, but I've always bought them because it was the best choice of the stock available at the time, rather than my first choice.

Like you experienced, local pricing plays a big part in whether this model makes sense over cheaper models. At ASUS's suggested MSRPs it's not good, but those MSRPs aren't the street price.

 

[Legacy-ZA]

And yes, I know the prices are nuts here in Sweden, but if you need a GPU you need a GPU.

Yeah, I know that feeling all too well, I am still disgusted that I had to buy my RTX 3070Ti at $1150, but when you need that GPU, emphasis on need. I don't have to imagine what GPU I can buy today for that same amount, even though their prices still are way out of whack.

Should I find myself in such a position again, I am just going to shelve my computer, I picked up other hobbies.

I just wish nVidia would roll out their Founder Editions worldwide, the AIBs are not that much better anymore unless you want a specific look, about the only thing I can think of now.

 

[apoklyps3]

seems I was right.
nobody is buying 4070 super

 

[Scircura]

If I were to buy a 4070S, this would be the one. Hear me out.

First, it's the only card out of the box with near-Noctua Edition silence. And it's worth some $ to avoid any faffing about with custom fan curves, and having to run an extra Windows program to apply it.

The only other cards that have good enough cooling to possibly be silenced with a custom curve are the Aorus (even more $), Palit (not sold in US), and the Zotac. Which, surprise, is $650 on all the stores I checked. Not sure how Zotac tricked Nvidia into letting their review embargo coincide with the $600 cards. So I'm looking to save at most $40+tax in exchange for hoping that the Zotac will handle a custom fan curve that doesn't bottom out at a too-loud 1200RPM, even though the fan speed chart on the Thermal Analysis page seems to indicate just that.

By the way, all those other mentioned cards have worse energy efficency than the TUF. With my electricity rates ($0.44/kWh!), the power consumption difference could negate the $40 I saved on the purchase within 2-3 years. Speaking of which, why are all the AIB partner cards 4-8 W worse at idle than the FE?

There's also the option to buy the Asus Dual for $600, deshroud it (nice that I don't have to mangle the card to do this) and install two 25x120mm fans. After paying for the fans, I could save maybe $50 over the TUF, but the heatsink is weaker and that probably eliminates any noise advantage from the larger fans. And it's even more hassle than the Zotac.

 

[MarsM4N]

90 bucks more than the base "Super Dual" is Ludacris ludicrous. Whatever, way to overpriced for what you get. Looks like their mainboard pricing scheme is colouring over the GPU department.

Spoiler: Ludacris

Ludacris - Get Back (Official Music Video)

One extra fan, MIL caps & around 200g extra metal, that's it. No way worth 90 extra bucks. Is the card at least "Coil Whine FREE"? (same VRM's like on the Dual)

 

[apoklyps3]

we should all boycott nvidia and amd untill they come to their senses.
don't buy super! it's not super at all

 

[Dixevil]

will wait for 4090 Super

 

[N/A]

4090 super when 5090 is just around the corner. Probably even the same thing.

seems I was right.
nobody is buying 4070 super

12GB is madness in 2024. For the money. At 399 maybe someone could consider it. Now if the performance is there I can't complain personally. this is 1.6 faster than my 2080 ti at the same detail. As many games struggle now but don't seem to load heavy textures. Yeah it's too late now, 5070 on the horizon and likely 4080 performance and even better GDDR7, but what if they decide to go 128 bit or stay at 192 and 12 GB.

 

[Chrispy_]

4090 super when 5090 is just around the corner. Probably even the same thing.


12GB is madness in 2024. For the money. At 399 maybe someone could consider it. Now if the performance is there I can't complain personally. this is 1.6 faster than my 2080 ti at the same detail. As many games struggle now but don't seem to load heavy textures. Yeah it's too late now, 5070 on the horizon and likely 4080 performance and even better GDDR7, but what if they decide to go 128 bit or stay at 192 and 12 GB.

I remember when $400 GPUs had a 512-bit memory bus. Sure, that's $600 in today's money with inflation, but Nvidia and AMD have been shrinking the bus for cost savings as they triple the price they sell to us.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I don't see the added value over the Zotac version. I'm disappointed by Asus because both Tuf and Rog are now overpriced model lines.

Kinda have to agree. The Zotac and Palit cards are easily the better value!

 

[Chrispy_]

Kinda have to agree. The Zotac and Palit cards are easily the better value!

I'll be avoiding the Palit card just based on past awful experience with Palit's triple-fan cards for several different SKUs in the 20 and 30 series.

For whatever reason their 3-fan cards suffer from fan control woes and the PWM signal of two fans sharing a line causes the controller to frequently panic. It's a shit design and I don't know if they've fixed it but it's shocking that they let it happen for two generations in a row so their triple-fan cards are on my DO NOT BUY list now by default.

 

[wheresmycar]

I'll be avoiding the Palit card just based on past awful experience with Palit's triple-fan cards for several different SKUs in the 20 and 30 series.

For whatever reason their 3-fan cards suffer from fan control woes and the PWM signal of two fans sharing a line causes the controller to frequently panic. It's a shit design and I don't know if they've fixed it but it's shocking that they let it happen for two generations in a row so their triple-fan cards are on my DO NOT BUY list now by default.

Glad one of my systems is running a "dual-fan" Palit GamingPro 2080 Ti with a G12 bracket AIO mod. I don't recall the same issues when running the card in its stock configuration for 4-5 months. Maybe only a triple fan blunder.

 

[Chrispy_]

Glad one of my systems is running a "dual-fan" Palit GamingPro 2080 Ti with a G12 bracket AIO mod. I don't recall the same issues when running the card in its stock configuration for 4-5 months. Maybe only a triple fan blunder.

Yeah, it was - I've also had dual-fan Palits from the exact same series - eg Palit Super GP and they used the same board as the triple-fan cards. The difference being that the triple fan coolers were longer and extended out from the card.

The "panic" (ie, sudden bursts of 3500rpm fans for a fraction of a second) only ever happened to the triple fan variants. I googled, and people suggested RMAing the cards in a lot of different threads, but I must have had 20-30 of them sourced from at least two different suppliers and over a couple of months of separate purchases and ALL of them had that behaviour. It wasn't a faulty card, they were designed with that problem.

Interestingly, the dual-fan cards had two PWM fan headers (one for each fan). The triple-fan cards ALSO had two PWM fan headers, and just daisy chained the third fan onto one of them. My guess is that Palit were using PWM fan controllers that didn't like daisy-chaining fans.

Anyway, it wasn't a huge deal since most of these GPUs were being used in a fairly noisy office, but it annoyed me enough to investigate it by dismantling a few cards to check cables were seated properly, log fan speed from GPU-Z to an csv, and do plenty of searching around the web. I came to the conclusion that this was just a sloppy, poorly-tested design decision affecting multiple SKUs that had been deemed okay enough to sell, but wasn't acceptable to my own standards.

 

[pancake155]

Please make a review for the MSI 4070 Super Gaming X Slim, I think it might be the best one in terms of noise and performance but no one seems to be reviewing the noise levels. Would love to see an indepth review from you.

 

[Dawora]

What a f***ing joke. $90 (15%) more expensive for about a 2% increase, something you can almost certainly get with any $600 model since they also have at least that much headroom.

I'm so glad you review these, because at some point - once these have been sat on a shelf unsold for 6 months, they'll be priced differently - and then at least we'll know that the quiet cooler makes it a better choice than barebones cards, but the overclock here was within margin of error of all the cards tested so far.


Same - I've bought dozens of them across a few SKUs and they're perfectly decent cards, but I've always bought them because it was the best choice of the stock available at the time, rather than my first choice.

Like you experienced, local pricing plays a big part in whether this model makes sense over cheaper models. At ASUS's suggested MSRPs it's not good, but those MSRPs aren't the street price.

15c cooler and noise is 10 dBA lower and thats a HUGE difference.

Hold on dier life if u cant eat,or life using extra 90$ for low noise custom card. Pls go and buy cheapest model then.
its not a crime to be a poor and its okay to QQ prices.
But 90$ extra for good custom card is not bad at all.

seems I was right.
nobody is buying 4070 super

Very wrong, but trolls allways think they are right

we should all boycott nvidia and amd untill they come to their senses.
don't buy super! it's not super at all

U can boycott alone, no one cares...have a nice life boycotting.
Go buy intel gpu and have Fun

90 bucks more than the base "Super Dual" is Ludacris ludicrous. Whatever, way to overpriced for what you get. Looks like their mainboard pricing scheme is colouring over the GPU department.

Spoiler: Ludacris

Ludacris - Get Back (Official Music Video)

One extra fan, MIL caps & around 200g extra metal, that's it. No way worth 90 extra bucks. Is the card at least "Coil Whine FREE"? (same VRM's like on the Dual)

i hope u can life a good life spending that extra 90$ somewhere else, its so huge money that u life will change forever.

I remember when $400 GPUs had a 512-bit memory bus. Sure, that's $600 in today's money with inflation, but Nvidia and AMD have been shrinking the bus for cost savings as they triple the price they sell to us.

Also those 512-bit memory bus GPU are slower now.. but u are free to buy one, go look used markets im sure u find one.

 

[Chrispy_]

15c cooler and noise is 10 dBA lower and thats a HUGE difference.

Hold on dier life if u cant eat,or life using extra 90$ for low noise custom card. Pls go and buy cheapest model then.
its not a crime to be a poor and its okay to QQ prices.
But 90$ extra for good custom card is not bad at all.

Where do you get 10dBA from? It's only 3.5dBA lower than the Zotac, 3.7dBA lower than Asus' own $600 Dual.
The Trinty is a tiny bit louder, yes - but the Trinity also runs cooler and is a far smaller card which matters to a lot of people (me included) who don't want to use big chungus cases.

You're also completely missing the point - nobody buying a $600 GPU is poor. It's about getting the best thing for your budget. $690 is getting uncomfortably close to the $799 MSRP of the 4070 Ti Super cards which are a big step up in spec and capability. You're argument for an extra $90 isn't very different to this argument for another $110. Except unlike the $90 for the TUF, this extra $110 actually gets you a HUGE increase in performance and 33% more VRAM as well. That, IMO, is a no-brainer that has nothing to do with poverty - it's simply the right choice, regardless of budget.

Also, if noise level is your sole concern, then there's more to noise tuning that just the BIOS switch. The Trinity runs cooler than the TUF's quiet BIOS, so there's headroom to dial back the Trinity's fans a bit and still get comparable temperatures to the TUF - at a lower price, in a smaller form factor, and a more attractive card. Granted, that last point is subjective - but looks sure play a part when you're choosing your high-end GPU.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'll be avoiding the Palit card just based on past awful experience with Palit's triple-fan cards for several different SKUs in the 20 and 30 series.

I wouldn't. I've never had a bad experience with them. I know some people have but I can't speak to it. OF the Palit cards I've encountered, they all react well to fan controls. The cards that have always given ME hassle is the OEM cards, like HP and Dell cards..

 

[Chrispy_]

I wouldn't. I've never had a bad experience with them. I know some people have but I can't speak to it. OF the Palit cards I've encountered, they all react well to fan controls. The card that have always given ME hassle is the OEM cards, like HP and Dell cards..

Fair, I'm not claiming to have used all Palit cards. I haven't even given them a chance since the 30-series. That's just my personal preference and reasoning for it.

 

[Scircura]

$690 is getting uncomfortably close to the $799 MSRP of the 4070 Ti Super cards which are a big step up in spec and capability.

Not a fair comparison: the MSRP 4070 TiS cards will have mediocre cooling. Assume the well-cooled cards will again be a $50+ premium. (Or more: the 4080 Noctua was $450 over MSRP.)

The Trinity runs cooler than the TUF's quiet BIOS, so there's headroom to dial back the Trinity's fans a bit and still get comparable temperatures to the TUF

Actually no, there might not be headroom (thermal yes, noise no). Look at the Trinity's fan speed charts. I'm not sure the fans will spin at less than 1200 RPM. Unless you know of a way to set a fan speed below 30%, which I can't get MSI Afterburner to do with either the slider or the custom curve editor. For comparison, my EVGA 3070 spins fans at 385 RPM with fan speed at 39% and stalls below that.

From what I can tell, EVGA was unique in its Fan Speed % calibration. All of their cards run at 60-80% speed in normal operation (I checked W1zzard's charts back through 2019) and most appear to reach 1000 RPM around 50%. Contrast that with every other manufacturer which sets 30%=1000+ RPM (or 1450 RPM, which ruins the PNY models for me), needlessly preventing their fans from ever running silently. A shame that we no longer have EVGA making BIOSes for the RTX 4000 series to reflash onto other cards...

 

[apoklyps3]

15c cooler and noise is 10 dBA lower and thats a HUGE difference.

Hold on dier life if u cant eat,or life using extra 90$ for low noise custom card. Pls go and buy cheapest model then.
its not a crime to be a poor and its okay to QQ prices.
But 90$ extra for good custom card is not bad at all.


Very wrong, but trolls allways think they are right


U can boycott alone, no one cares...have a nice life boycotting.
Go buy intel gpu and have Fun


i hope u can life a good life spending that extra 90$ somewhere else, its so huge money that u life will change forever.


Also those 512-bit memory bus GPU are slower now.. but u are free to buy one, go look used markets im sure u find one.

as you are free to femboy on nvidia

 

[Chrispy_]

Not a fair comparison: the MSRP 4070 TiS cards will have mediocre cooling. Assume the well-cooled cards will again be a $50+ premium. (Or more: the 4080 Noctua was $450 over MSRP.)

That's a guess that you're making and based on several of the MSRP 4070S cards reviewed so far, there should be decent, well-cooled MSRP 4070 Ti S cards.

We're both guessing but I'm guessing based on recent 4070S reviews where three of the five partner MSRP models have had excellent coolers. Your guess contradicts the findings of those reviews - care to explain why you think the MSRP Ti Super cards are going to have mediocre coolers?

Your point at 1200rpm minimum fan speeds is valid; if you can't tolerate 28dBA then there's a case for the ASUS TUF with its quiet BIOS, but 28dBA is very quiet and the 28dBA cards do have idle fan stop too so you'd only get that 28dBA when gaming, where the game noise is practically guaranteed to drown out anything coming from the GPU fans. My D5 vario on its lowest settings is louder than that. I think the electronic coil whine of my GPU at 200+ FPS is often louder that that. 28dBA is quiet enough that you kind of need to live in the countryside away from traffic, in a room that has double glazing, no wildlife outside, and no wind in the trees. Reviewers without access to soundproofed testing boxes often have a noise floor of 30dBA because that's a reasonable noise floor for a building with air conditioning and traffic outside.