4080 or 7900xtx

[oxrufiioxo]

RDNA 4 (Radeon 8000 series) is skipping the high end enthusiast segment in favor of putting more resources towards RDNA 5’s development; supposedly RDNA 5 is going to be huge in terms of performance gains so they’re putting most resources towards that.

Or more likely towards AI just like Nvidia....

 

[ARF]

RDNA 4 (Radeon 8000 series) is skipping the high end enthusiast segment in favor of putting more resources towards RDNA 5’s development; supposedly RDNA 5 is going to be huge in terms of performance gains so they’re putting most resources towards that.

Is this an insider info, or a guess?
Because if Navi 31 was a year late already in late 2022, then it's a 2021 thing, with a tape out as early as January 2021 perhaps.

RDNA 4 was cancelled rather due to miserable performance by the chiplets very late in the design stage, which means there is nothing to save in the development.

AMD is so lazy that they can't even release new A1, A2 or B1 revisions with improved characteristics of the same Navi 31.

 

[evelynharthbrooke]

Or more likely towards AI just like Nvidia....

I don’t personally think that’s the case, at least not for Radeon. There are already other groups within AMD that are focusing on AI more than likely.

Is this an insider info, or a guess?
Because if Navi 31 was a year late already in late 2022, then it's a 2021 thing, with a tape out as early as January 2021 perhaps.

RDNA 4 was cancelled rather due to miserable performance by the chiplets very late in the design stage, which means there is nothing to save in the development.

AMD is so lazy that they can't even release new A1, A2 or B1 revisions with improved characteristics of the same Navi 31.

AMD doesn’t typically release new steppings for their existing silicon from what I’m aware of. Plus I don’t personally think it would be worth it.

 

[Dr. Dro]

AMD doesn’t typically release new steppings for their existing silicon from what I’m aware of. Plus I don’t personally think it would be worth it.

Navi 10 alone had 5 or 6 silent revisions... all to try and fix the incessant problems with the card. They spent most of the budget they had for maintaining it to merely get it to "work", plus the new steppings for Navi 21 that were released as different types (XTX, XTXH, KXTX), so they absolutely do.

Is this an insider info, or a guess?
Because if Navi 31 was a year late already in late 2022, then it's a 2021 thing, with a tape out as early as January 2021 perhaps.

RDNA 4 was cancelled rather due to miserable performance by the chiplets very late in the design stage, which means there is nothing to save in the development.

AMD is so lazy that they can't even release new A1, A2 or B1 revisions with improved characteristics of the same Navi 31.

This is a rumor that's been floating around, but it's not entirely unsurprising if they choose to do so. Focus on the midrange, stop futilely trying to beat Nvidia when they know they can't - develop the software, develop the features, and then come back. This is a solid strategy for AMD.

 

[ARF]

This is a rumor that's been floating around, but it's not entirely unsurprising if they choose to do so. Focus on the midrange, stop futilely trying to beat Nvidia when they know they can't - develop the software, develop the features, and then come back. This is a solid strategy for AMD.

They need a solid halo part in order to use it as a selling point. Compare Bulldozer and Zen. AMD was in a very bad position before Zen, and when Zen appeared and regained the performance crown over intel's offerings, suddenly everyone began to buy Ryzens only.

Same with Radeon. AMD is simply forced to abandon the super high-end because of the ever-lasting underdog status which forces them to do all types of weird things - chiplets being one of them. It doesn't work for GPUs. Plain and simple.

 

[Dr. Dro]

They need a solid halo part in order to use it as a selling point. Compare Bulldozer and Zen. AMD was in a very bad position before Zen, and when Zen appeared and regained the performance crown over intel's offerings, suddenly everyone began to buy Ryzens only.

Same with Radeon. AMD is simply forced to abandon the super high-end because of the ever-lasting underdog status which forces them to do all types of weird things - chiplets being one of them. It doesn't work for GPUs. Plain and simple.

Ryzen earned its keep by being an affordable and performant processor. The market decided that its bugs did not outweigh the benefits even early on, which led to socket AM4 being successful and the Ryzen business thrived. Even though even today some enthusiasts believe AMD's platform isn't as trustworthy or tweakable as Intel's (and arguably, this is true - the Core processors are quite robust), it 100% suits the needs of beginning, intermediate, advanced and even power users alike.

AMD's CPU team can walk with their head high. Not so much for the Radeon team, however. They've had strong successes in their semicustom business, but the DIY/OEM dGPU market is an unmitigated trainwreck.

 

[freeagent]

I am impressed, you guys are keeping it together..! Though I have not checked for reported posts yet

Edit:

To be fair the op said he bought a 4080 2 pages ago..

 

[fevgatos]

Bruh the 4090 is 50% faster than the 7900XT at 4k and it is not a 4k144hz maybe you should put medium settings or old games next to those numbers as an asterisk to your claims. .

And if you are accounting for FSR quality at 4k that isn't 4k it's 1440p upscaled.....

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1440p144 sure.......

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It's cool if you like your 7900XT enough to recommend it to others but telling anyone it is anywhere near a 4k 144hz card is some pie in the sky shiznizzle and would just lead someone to be extremely disappointed

A couple of days ago he said he is getting 150 fps in cyberpunk 4k ultra with RT.

I did not say it was faster. i said that it outperforms it in certain titles or comes close to matching its performance. i was judging that based on TPU’s performance numbers in the review of the 7900 XTX Taichi White compared to the 3090 ti.

It doesn't come close in RT performance. Sure it seems like it in some games, that's because those games don't really have RT, it's the usual AMD sponsored game that has RT shadows at 1/4 of the actual resolution you are playing at with no way to turn it up. You are better off just turning RT off in these games cause they just look worse. In anything that's worth playing with RT the xtx barely competes with a 3080, if even that.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

A couple of days ago he said he is getting 150 fps in cyberpunk 4k ultra with RT.

He loves his 7900XT which is awesome but....

 

[eidairaman1]

You guys still talking lol ? Imma buy the 4080, thanks for the input from people who own zotac cards, and the people who had terrible experiences with 7900xtx

Eyerolls

Op bought a gpu really no point in "discussing" anything now.


Im out

 

[freeagent]

Yeah I think I will have to agree.

Thank you, come again