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Ok, let's say I have a 64-bit processor (I soon will).
Can I still run 32-bit operating systems?
Can I run 64-bit apps on a 32-bit operating system?
If I run a 64-bit operating system, can I run 32-bit and 16-bit apps?

Also, the motherboard coming with this CPU has a PCI-E x16 slot, but it only runs at 4x. It also has AGP8x, so what will be faster?
 
You can stull run 32 bit on a 64 bit processor, hell my P4 3.0 630 was 64-bit...
I am pretty sure applications are a different story, I don't think 64-bit can run on 32-bit, but some 32-bit may be able to run on 64-bit...though I'm not too sure since I have never done 64-bit.
I am pretty sure AGP 8x is faster than PCI-e 4X...I remember seeing a chart somewhere showing them tied to 8x and then PCI-e twice as fast at 16x...something along those lines.
 
Why would you get a mobo like that anyway?
 
Because I am poor, geez. We can't all afford supercomputers here.
 
What's your budget?
 
It's $150... getting an AsRock 4core DUAL-VSTA and a Pentium D 2.8 Presler. It's already ordered.
 
I'm sure for what you paid you will get decent performance, and like I said before, I'm pretty sure AGP 8x is faster than PCI-e 4x, considering AGP 8x cards in today's variations score quite well compared to their PCI-e x16 counterparts, but new tech-AGP cards are generally more expensive than their PCI-e counterparts. Are you debating going 64-bit? Or just curious?
 
the PCI-E 4x slot can handle anything short of an 8800GTS/X, on your budget, no card you can afford will hold it back :)

Also, 64 bit CPU's can run 32 bit or 64 bit, and as i know the board you're getting - stay 32. The only advantage to 64 is running 4GB or more of ram (like me) and that motherboard is pretty much limited to 2GB.

(It has four memory slots, two for DDR and two for DDR2 - but you cant use them all at once. 2GB sticks are quite expensive as well)
 
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why do you need 64bit OS?
games are the only software where you would see some decent changes, but there are very few games that are 64bit.
i would have gotten WinXP64 a long time ago, but there is just no use for it, at least right now...
besides, 64bit OS means a lot of problems with drivers and other stuff
 
My Vista 64bit runs 32bit progs just fine.
Though, drivers have to be 64bit to work with 64bit OS.

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Even old 32bit games like Jagged Alliance 2 work fine in Vista 64bit...
;)
 
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largon said:
My Vista 64bit runs 32bit progs just fine.
Though, drivers have to be 64bit to work with 64bit OS.

edit:
Even old 32bit games like Jagged Alliance 2 work fine in Vista 64bit...
;)
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Common misconception, ONLY drivers need to be 64 bit - 32 bit apps run just damned fine with NO speed change compared to 32 bit windows. Those of us who run 64 bit do so, cause the 3GB ram limitation of 32 bit operating systems (4GB total, but XP/vista 32 can only use 3GB of it) is kinda annoying.
 
Mussels,
What is the common misconception you refer to?
 
Well old 16-bit apps can be run in XP can't they, so there is no reason that 32-it apps wouldn't run on 64-bit.
 
largon said:
Mussels,
What is the common misconception you refer to?
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I believe Mussels was echoing his point by stating that 32-bits won't run on an x64 OS is a common misconception.
 
Jimmy 2004 said:
Well old 16-bit apps can be run in XP can't they, so there is no reason that 32-it apps wouldn't run on 64-bit.
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I should note that 16-bit apps don't run on Windows x64. But who uses anything that old these days anyways?
 
hat said:
Ok, let's say I have a 64-bit processor (I soon will).
Can I still run 32-bit operating systems?
Can I run 64-bit apps on a 32-bit operating system?
If I run a 64-bit operating system, can I run 32-bit and 16-bit apps?

Also, the motherboard coming with this CPU has a PCI-E x16 slot, but it only runs at 4x. It also has AGP8x, so what will be faster?
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32bit SO will work on your 64bit processor


64bit app's WON'T work on your 32bit SO


SOME 32bit app's will work on your 64bit SO, but (I think) NONE of 16bit will work
 
Zeratul_uy said:
32bit SO will work on your 64bit processor


64bit app's WON'T work on your 32bit SO


SOME 32bit app's will work on your 64bit SO, but (I think) NONE of 16bit will work
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Someone needs to start typing OS in the right order :rolleyes:
 
I ran 64bit XP for a long while, almost all 32bit apps run on it. It seems a bit quicker in use than 32bit as well(could've just been the placebo effect, I suppose) The only things I couldn't get to run were RaBit, Winflash, and a few other programs like that. I liked it a lot, but decided not to keep it, because it forced me to have a 32bit Windows install for those few oddball programs. I figured if I had to have a 32 bit install anyway, I might as well just run that instead.

I didn't have anything that was 64 bit optimized either. If I would have, I would've kept it.

One last thing, 16bit apps do not run. I don't have any of those, so it's not a bother.

My suggestion is stick with 32bit, unless you use programs that are native 64bit.
 
i use winxp x64 about 9 months now believe me there is no big problem and the is alot more speed (in every program that need faster memory transfer games,autocad,3d studio max etc)but many 32 bit prog doesnt work there is no way to install in programs like my cellphone programs but if you want to bench it there is about a 20% speed
 
Jimmy 2004 said:
Someone needs to start typing OS in the right order :rolleyes:
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In spanish "OS" is called Sistema Operativo, A.K.A. SO.
Sorry for not being as Perfect as you are.
 
hat said:
Ok, let's say I have a 64-bit processor (I soon will).
Can I still run 32-bit operating systems?
Can I run 64-bit apps on a 32-bit operating system?
If I run a 64-bit operating system, can I run 32-bit and 16-bit apps?

Also, the motherboard coming with this CPU has a PCI-E x16 slot, but it only runs at 4x. It also has AGP8x, so what will be faster?
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yes
no
sorta kinda
pci-e


However, apple's Leopard poses an interesting situation. Some of the OS is 64 bit, while other parts remain 32. Why did microsoft not do this? Seems Vista would have been the perfect oppurtunity.
 
von kain said:
i use winxp x64 about 9 months now believe me there is no big problem and the is alot more speed (in every program that need faster memory transfer games,autocad,3d studio max etc)but many 32 bit prog doesnt work there is no way to install in programs like my cellphone programs but if you want to bench it there is about a 20% speed
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Theres no sudden 20% speed increase, if the hardware is the same. The OS itself is a little faster, because its a newer design - and vista x64 is a lot better than XP64, as XP64 was very rarely supported with drivers (vista has enough push to get most drivers from the start)
 
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