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Acer or Lenovo laptops? Both have same specifications

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Saru

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Hey, everyone.

So, I've found here two laptops that have the same specs and price. Its quite a hard to looking for a good and cheap laptop over here (I'm from Brazil), and I want your help to choose what brand I should buy...

Well, the specs are:

CPU: i5 5200U 2.2 Ghz
RAM: 8 GB
HD: 1 TB
GPU: Integrated Intel 5500 HD
Display: 15,6" LED - 1366x768

You guys problably wont understand the site because its in brazilian portuguese, but these are the models:

Lenovo G50: http://www.magazineluiza.com.br/not...ed-15-6-hdmi-bluetooth-4.0/p/2155292/in/inom/

Acer Aspire E5: http://www.magazineluiza.com.br/not...b-windows-10-led-15-6-hdmi/p/2153121/in/note/
 
I prefer Lenove but i see a lot of customers are pleased . They have it . The reviews are about 5 stars both . i would get the Lenovo . i5 5200U is a good CPU .

Yet i would prefer a laptop with a dedicated GPU , like Geforce 940M/920M at least - for gaming .
 
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Id vote for the Lenovo, their build quality has been better in my experience.
 
I used to like Lenovo, but I heard too many complaints since bought out by a Chinese company.
Acer has always been inexpensive but reliable for me.
It comes down to personal taste in appearance and feel.
If you can look at them and try them in a shop that is the best way to judge them.
 
Hum, so Lenovo is more trustworthy than Acer I see...

Didn't know that, here in Brazil we only see the price, no matter what.

Lenovo was IBM, right?
 
Saru said:
Hum, so Lenovo is more trustworthy than Acer I see...

Didn't know that, here in Brazil we only see the price, no matter what.

Lenovo was IBM, right?
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"Lenovo acquired IBM's personal computer business in 2005 and agreed to acquire its Intel-based server business in 2014"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lenovo

I would worry more if there was a GPU but since there is only a processor chip it is easier to keep it cool .
 
Caring1 said:
I used to like Lenovo, but I heard too many complaints since bought out by a Chinese company.
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Lenovo has always been a Chinese company.

You're thinking of Lenovo buying out IBM's consumer PC division.
 
I would take the Lenovo , they have a good build quality . Acer always seems a cheaper brand to me
 
R-T-B said:
Lenovo has always been a Chinese company.

You're thinking of Lenovo buying out IBM's consumer PC division.
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I thought Lenovo had been bought out since acquiring IBM all those years ago. :confused:
 
Saru said:
At least we can remove it with taskschedulerview ;)
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In case you failed to read the page i linked to or googled it yourself

"They were GUILTY of INserting Spyware/adware into the BIOS where upon Boot Would Reinstall and Run their ADD/spyware

In August 2015, Lenovo again got caught installing unwanted and non-removable crapware into part of the BIOS reserved for custom drivers.

Get a " BAD REPUTATION " and it follows you for-EVER

ps google Superfish malware
 
i'd go for the Acer myself, used their tablets and never had a problem with them. Also as said above, Superfish=Bad
 
Caring1 said:
I thought Lenovo had been bought out since acquiring IBM all those years ago. :confused:
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I think there was some rumblings over the government in China buying a bunch of stock, but that doesn't change the fact that it's always been based in China.

dorsetknob said:
In case you failed to read the page i linked to or googled it yourself

"They were GUILTY of INserting Spyware/adware into the BIOS where upon Boot Would Reinstall and Run their ADD/spyware

In August 2015, Lenovo again got caught installing unwanted and non-removable crapware into part of the BIOS reserved for custom drivers.

Get a " BAD REPUTATION " and it follows you for-EVER

ps google Superfish malware
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OneKey optimizer, part of Lenovo Service Engine, is the one that the bios reinstalled. Superfish was only preinstalled, not a auto reinstalling portion via UEFI.

Either way, the company does have a somewhat fishy preinstall bloatware rep.
 
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They say Windows 10 is a spyware but its share is increasing . If he prefers Acer , well it would be fine . There is only a CPU chip no GPU . i5 5200U is an ultra low voltage processor with 15W TDP . So i wouldnt worry about overheating . They may find spyware in every brand , who knows !

I like Lenovo for their two fans laptops - one for the CPU and one for the GPU at competitive price .

Edit : Acer sell good monitors , so the display should be good (of Acer ).
 
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Saru said:
Hum, so Lenovo is more trustworthy than Acer I see...
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Trustworthy? Far from it!

Personally, I avoid Lenovo product like the plague! They make some good products, but the Chinese company (and their Chinese government overseers) cannot be trusted! Lenovo has a long history (since buying out IBM's PC business in 2005) of shipping computers with malware and spying on customers. The "Superfish" scandal in February 2015 is a huge example. And they admitted it! But note they said they stopped, not because it presented a security risk to its customers, but due to some browser pop-up behavior! :mad:

Lenovo products have been banned from sensitive UK, Australia, NZ, Canada and US government agencies.

May 2015, BBC News, Lenovo: researchers find 'massive security risk'

And, despite their claims to stop, they keep at it! August 2015, The Guardian, Lenovo does it again.

Since the Chinese government has no qualms conducting cyber-warfare on democratic, free societies, or their private citizens, I recommend sending Lenovo a message that we consumers will not tolerate (or reward through purchases) their malicious behavior and urge consumers to avoid Lenovo products.

Even IF Lenovo management and executives are not active participants in all these repeat malicious activities, the fact it keeps happening over and over again (and with new code too) is a clear indication they are not doing much, if anything, to prevent it from happening again and again! Whether it is because they are lining their greedy pockets, or it is through intimidation and coercion by the corrupt and hostile Chinese government, or both, Lenovo computers cannot be "trusted".

Again, I am not disputing the quality of their products. The problem is, the company behind them have demonstrated over and over again, they take an active role in malicious activity against their customers.
 
little cat said:
They say Windows 10 is a spyware but its share is increasing .
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There's a huge difference between being possibly "spyware" and shipping blatant "malware." There is nothing good to be had from malware. Spyware might actually be legit in some cases, if it uses it to provide a service, ala Windows 10.
 
found this , Wiki
All that should have ended . Anyway , both laptops will do the job

Superfish[edit]

In February 2015, Lenovo became the subject of controversy for having bundled software identified as malware on some of its laptops. The software, Superfish Visual Discovery, is a web browser add-on that injects price comparison advertising into search engine results pages. To intercept HTTPS-encrypted communications, the software also installed a self-signed digital certificate.[61][62] When the Superfish private key was compromised, it was also discovered that the same private key was used across all installations of the software, leaving users vulnerable to security exploits utilizing the key.[63][64] Lenovo made between US$200,000 to US$250,000 on its deal with Superfish.[65]
The head of Superfish responded to security concerns by saying the vulnerability was "inadvertently" introduced by Komodia, which built the application.[66][66] In response to the criticism, Lenovo detailed that it would cease further distribution and use of the Superfish software, and offered affected customers free six-month subscriptions to the McAfee LiveSafe software.[67] Lenovo issued a promise to reduce the amount of "bloatware" it bundles with its Windows 10 devices, promising to only include Lenovo software, security software, drivers, and "certain applications customarily expected by users".[68] Salon tech writer David Auerbach compared the incident to the Sony DRM rootkit scandal, and argued that "installing Superfish is one of the most irresponsible mistakes an established tech company has ever made."[69]
Lenovo Service Engine[edit]

From October 2014 through June 2015, the UEFI firmware on certain Lenovo models had contained software known as "Lenovo Service Engine," which Lenovo says automatically sent non-identifiable system information to Lenovo the first time Windows is connected to the internet, and on laptops, automatically installs the Lenovo OneKey Optimizer program (software considered to bebloatware) as well. This process occurs even on clean installations of Windows. It was found that this program had been automatically installed using a new feature in Windows 8, Windows Platform Binary Table, which allows executable files to be stored within UEFI firmware for execution on startup, and is meant to "allow critical software to persist even when the operating system has changed or been reinstalled in a 'clean' configuration"; specifically, anti-theft security software. The software was discontinued after it was found that aspects of the software had security vulnerabilities, and did not comply with revised guidelines for appropriate usage of WPBT. On July 31, 2015, Lenovo released instructions and UEFI firmware updates meant to remove Lenovo Service Engine.[70][71][72]
 
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R-T-B said:
There's a huge difference between being possibly "spyware" and shipping blatant "malware." There is nothing good to be had from malware. Spyware might actually be legit in some cases, if it uses it to provide a service, ala Windows 10.
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One of the purposes of Windows 10 is pure spying no more no less ! But i dont care . I am on Windows 10 . If i had something to hide , i would cut the Internet access at all and so on . One never knows what is collected . MS security is not the best . How will they protect the data , who knows !?
 
They "Lenovo" did this and were caught
they then promised to stop (They lied they were caught Again and Again )
They then Said they would
Suspend the installation of this malware untill it could be fixed
that is SUSPEND ( not stop ) until fixed ( that means its undetected )

Personally both sets of hardware are suitable
it comes down to bundled Software
and DO YOU TRUST LENOVO after they REPEATLY LIED and allow for the self installation of software that compromise's the owners Security
I do not Trust Lenevo and based on their track record would NOT RECOMMEND LENOVO
 
little cat said:
One of the purposes of Windows 10 is pure spying no more no less ! But i dont care . I am on Windows 10 . If i had something to hide , i would cut the Internet access at all and so on . One never knows what is collected . MS security is not the best . How will they protect the data , who knows !?
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I agree they harvest too much data to just be used for stuff like Cortana, etc. It may not show from my previous post, but I'm ideologically opposed to the way Windows 10 is built.

Separate topic though...
 
dorsetknob said:
They "Lenovo" did this and were caught
they then promised to stop (They lied they were caught Again and Again )
They then Said they would
Suspend the installation of this malware untill it could be fixed
that is SUSPEND ( not stop ) until fixed ( that means its undetected )

Personally both sets of hardware are suitable
it comes down to bundled Software
and DO YOU TRUST LENOVO after they REPEATLY LIED and allow for the self installation of software that compromise's the owners Security
I do not Trust Lenevo and based on their track record would NOT RECOMMEND LENOVO
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It smells like a plot against Lenovo . We never know what really is sent via our Internet connection . Finally , both laptops would serve well .
 
They say Windows 10 is a spyware...
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:( What Lenovo repeatedly did (and repeatedly is the key word there - it is not just the Superfish issue) is totally different from what Microsoft is doing. As R-T-B correctly noted, there's a huge difference between being "spyware" and actually shipping blatant "malware."

But to the point of "spyware", people (including some in the IT Press who keep poking the flames with falsehoods and exaggerations to seek sensationalized headlines :mad: ) - people need to get it through their heads that there is a HUGE difference between "privacy" and "security". And the biased Microsoft bashers who keep tossing out the Microsoft name in opportunistic attempts to further, and unjustly discredit Microsoft just because they have some grudge against Microsoft need to stop! Microsoft had nothing nor has anything to do with Lenovo's long history of malicious activities!!!!

Bashing Microsoft when due is just fine - and they have done plenty deserving of bashing especially with some of their marketing schemes. And I will defend your right to do that to the end of my days. But I will also defend Microsoft or anyone else when bashed unjustly - as done above. Even at its worse, Microsoft is NOT trying to steal your passwords, full name, birthdate, street address, bank account and credit card information, Social Security Numbers, personal contacts, or read your emails. Nor is it trying to overwrite security certifications or redirect you to malicious sites, or take control of your computer to send spam or distribute malware.

Even if you look at the "privacy" issues in Windows 10 Microsoft haters harp about, they pale in comparison to the privacy violations imposed on us by our cell phone carriers - companies that not only know our names, street address, phone numbers and bank account information, they know within a few feet of where were are standing (including the store and aisle :eek: we are standing in), where we've been, the direction we are headed and how fast we are traveling. Those are the folks to worry about, not Microsoft.

The closest Microsoft knows of your physical location is your PoP (point of presence) - the "central office" where your ISP connects you to the Internet backbone. In my case, that is 10 miles away in the next town over!

Now, back on point - Lenovo does make good notebooks. The company just cannot be trusted. And to that, it is not that they are negligent at protecting their customers, it is that they intentionally and repeatedly perpetrate assaults on their customers. :mad::mad::mad: :(
 
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