AMD GPU selection

[Draginsmith28]

Target: 1080p ultra 165fps, just a quick poll for a friend that possesses a Ryzen 5 5600x

 

[Deleted member 230939]

XT

 

[tussinman]

6700xt is a little faster and has more vram but the 6700 non xt is the better "bang for your buck" at that price

If he's not in a huge hurry the current rumor is 7600 releasing at the end of the month with the 7600xt releasing in June so he could wait and see what those 2 offer

 

[eidairaman1]

10GB, no thanks, they are crippled for a reason

 

[ir_cow]

6600 XT (not on the list). Enable FSR and save some money.

 

[Deleted member 223428]

Target: 1080p ultra 165fps, just a quick poll for a friend that possesses a Ryzen 5 5600x

Not gonna happen on any of that hardware.

 

[eidairaman1]

Not gonna happen on any of that hardware.

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After 60 FPS it makes no difference, just have to watch the .1 or 1% lows

 

[R-T-B]

After 60 FPS it makes no difference

To you maybe. It certainly does to some, but you have to pay to play, unfortunately. High refresh is expensive.

EDIT: Glad this is funny, but I know for a fact when I go between 60hz and 120hz, difference is discernible. Groundbreaking? No. Detectable? Yes.

 

[Dr. Dro]

How much are the NVIDIA equivalents (RTX 3050, 3060 8GB, 3060 12GB) in your country? Is Intel Arc (A750) available? What system configuration? We know it's a 5600X but not the rest.

 

[GamerGuy]

165fps/165Hz at 1080P? You do know this requires a fast CPU and GPU, doncha? An OC'ed 5600X may just be enough, but on the GPU side, shooting for that framerate, or close to that, I'd say spend more on an RX 6800. But if that's beyond budget, then definitely the RX 6700 XT 12GB....it'll do very nicely as well at 350USD (XFX Speedster SWFT309, Sapphire Fighter), should hit high enough framerate with the R5 5600X, especially in eSport titles, and perhaps COD MW titles since it loves AMD GPUs.

How much are the NVIDIA equivalents (RTX 3050, 3060 8GB, 3060 12GB) in your country? Is Intel Arc (A750) available? What system configuration? We know it's a 5600X but not the rest.

Not sure 'bout his country, but nVidia cards generally carry a price premium over AMD cards. For example, the RX 6600 can be had for 199USD (lowest at Amazon) while the RTX 3050 can be had for about 250USD (lowest at Amazon), yet the RX 6600 curb stomp the RTX 3050 badly in many games, averaging about 29% faster. Just for clarification, even in my country in Asia, nVidia cards are priced higher than their AMD equivalent. Oft times AMD cards which can be said to be one tier higher in performance than their nVidia counterparts are price similarly to nVidia card which are considered one tier lower.

 

[Dr. Dro]

165fps/165Hz at 1080P? You do know this requires a fast CPU and GPU, doncha? An OC'ed 5600X may just be enough, but on the GPU side, shooting for that framerate, or close to that, I'd say spend more on an RX 6800. But if that's beyond budget, then definitely the RX 6700 XT 12GB....it'll do very nicely as well at 350USD (XFX Speedster SWFT309, Sapphire Fighter), should hit high enough framerate with the R5 5600X, especially in eSport titles, and perhaps COD MW titles since it loves AMD GPUs.


Not sure 'bout his country, but nVidia cards generally carry a price premium over AMD cards. For example, the RX 6600 can be had for 199USD (lowest at Amazon) while the RTX 3050 can be had for about 250USD (lowest at Amazon), yet the RX 6600 curb stomp the RTX 3050 badly in many games, averaging about 29% faster. Just for clarification, even in my country in Asia, nVidia cards are priced higher than their AMD equivalent. Oft times AMD cards which can be said to be one tier higher in performance than their nVidia counterparts are price similarly to nVidia card which are considered one tier lower.

Isn't the Fighter PowerColor's lowest-end design? Neither of these are ultra-quality 1080p165 capable, though. RX 6800... IF you can find them, they're unobtainium for some time now, and raising budget any further places you in the spot where the RTX 4070 is the only sensible choice.

The 3050 is positioned against the RX 6500 XT, it's obvious that the 6600 is better. Nvidia cards are at a premium because they are more sought after. It's the law of supply and demand. However, that doesn't really invalidate my question: how much are them and knowing what they can do, is it worth buying one instead? The answer may potentially be negative from a value perspective, but you may be surprised. RTX 3060s are generally cheaper than RX 6700 XTs in my country. Even the 3070 is when it goes on sale, which is often lately.

 

[Draginsmith28]

How much are the NVIDIA equivalents (RTX 3050, 3060 8GB, 3060 12GB) in your country? Is Intel Arc (A750) available? What system configuration? We know it's a 5600X but not the rest.

3050 is crap :l
3060 tho it's 325
While the 3060ti is 400 (according to him)

 

[pavle]

If you want to save some money, the RX 6700 has ~77% the price of RX 6700XT but offers 83% of its VRAM, and since 3080 also has 10GB it shouldn't be a problem; ~95% pixel fillrate; ~85% texel fillrate; ~85% FP32 shader power; ~76% power consumption; ~83% L3 cache.

 

[GamerGuy]

Isn't the Fighter PowerColor's lowest-end design? Neither of these are ultra-quality 1080p165 capable, though. RX 6800... IF you can find them, they're unobtainium for some time now, and raising budget any further places you in the spot where the RTX 4070 is the only sensible choice.

The 3050 is positioned against the RX 6500 XT, it's obvious that the 6600 is better. Nvidia cards are at a premium because they are more sought after. It's the law of supply and demand. However, that doesn't really invalidate my question: how much are them and knowing what they can do, is it worth buying one instead? The answer may potentially be negative from a value perspective, but you may be surprised. RTX 3060s are generally cheaper than RX 6700 XTs in my country. Even the 3070 is when it goes on sale, which is often lately.

We're talking price here, the 250USD RTX 3050 was the lowest I could find, a single fan PNY model:

Amazon.com

Do you wanna compare that 250USD PNY RTX 3050 against, say, a single fan iTX PowerColor RX 6500 XT at 150USD, really? The RX 6500 XT more like a GTX 1650 Super competitor both in terms of price and performance.

 

[siluro818]

The non-XT is the better deal here, but if that person is serious about hitting that fps more often than not, they'll need the 6700XT.

 

[dirtyferret]

Target: 1080p ultra 165fps, just a quick poll for a friend that possesses a Ryzen 5 5600x

for what games?

 

[Deleted member 230939]

Guys the 5600X will struggle in some games but on lowered settings I don't see why a 6700 XT won't fulfill 165hz at 1080p. Fast memory will definiely help and enabling SAM.

 

[damric]

6700 non-xt is the better balanced GPU configuration. XT will be more ROP and bandwidth constrained. 10GB is just the right amount of VRAM for that amount of muscle.

 

[Deleted member 230939]

6700 non-xt is the better balanced GPU configuration. XT will be more ROP and bandwidth constrained. 10GB is just the right amount of VRAM for that amount of muscle.

XT is faster regardless.

 

[physicsjunky]

I have a 6700 xt that i can sell for around $300 depending where you live i can ship it to you. I repasted and added some thermal pads to the backplate months ago.
it is the reference card so hotspot temp are high and can get loud

 

[LucianF]

I vote RX 6700 since I own one together with a R5 5600, funnily enough. I also a have a 1080P 200Hz monitor. Very few modern games run consistently at 200Hz but that's what Freesync is for. However many games ran at around 165 so the pairing would be perfect. With any luck this kind of setup should keep up with the PS5 since the GPU is a rough equivalent.

 

[dirtyferret]

Guys the 5600X will struggle in some games but on lowered settings I don't see why a 6700 XT won't fulfill 165hz at 1080p. Fast memory will definiely help and enabling SAM.

I don't think the definition of "struggle" means what you think it means

One quick peak on the techspot review showed it avg over 200 FPS on their test suit with ultra 1080p settings

even on their hardest CPU game, the 5600x showed 107 FPS avg and 71fps 1% lows

 

[Deleted member 230939]

I don't think the definition of "struggle" means what you think it means

One quick peak on the techspot review showed it avg over 200 FPS on their test suit with ultra 1080p settings

even on their hardest CPU game, the 5600x showed 107 FPS avg and 71fps 1% lows

No it means struggle to maintain 165, as you pointed out it's worst is 107 FPS, am I being nit picky? perhaps but to high-refresh users 107 is felt vs 165, though it is a blur passed that, I have a 240hz 1080P (TN) monitor and can barely tell any difference at all from 165hz 1440p (VA).

 

[dirtyferret]

No it means struggle to maintain 165, as you pointed out it's worst id 107 FPs

yes it would be hard pressed to maintain 165 fps in handful of games (although did avg over 200 in the suite) but that test was done with the RTX3090, if we are talking about the RX 6700 or the XT version than it wouldn't matter what modern CPU you had if the GPU itself can't get you to that FPS to begin with. Once the OP has the graphic performance of a card like the RTX3090 or better than the issue of the CPU holding you back from maintaining 165 fps comes into play.

 

[ModEl4]

At this price, RX6700 is the better deal (the difference should be -15%/$50 from XT)
If you indeed can find the RX6700 at $269 then the RX6650XT in order to make sense must be at least $30 cheaper and to tell you the truth i wouldn't buy it unless -$40 because if you want to play older games at 4K (RX6700 is faster than 1080Ti...) the extra bandwidth and more importantly the 80MB cache will help a lot plus it needs only 1 8pin so no major advantage for RX6650 regarding power consumption.On the other hand the performance of RX 6700XT is very specific and the 12GB memory and 96MB cache makes it a very resilient model, it will serve you well and earn 1 year more of gaming (regarding performance) and maybe 2 years more in specific future games that the 10GB will be an issue for High/Ultra textures (even if everything else is low, high/ultra textures makes a lot of difference) if the price difference was just $50 i would prefer RX 6700XT.
Edit: i just saw the you want FHD 165, that changes a little bit the situation but not much, i would stick with the above recommendations any way