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Ryzen 5 7600 is AMD's most-affordable Zen 4 processor. It retails for only $230 and even comes with a heatsink. The testing in our review confirms that the performance difference to the more-expensive 7600X is minimal, and gaming performance even beats the 5800X3D.

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I find this part rather interesting


I've been complaining about extremely long boot times in my original Zen 4 reviews, and AMD assured us that these are fixed. To my surprise nothing was fixed and the new 65 W CPU models took just as long to boot—30 seconds or more—every single time. Turns out that on ASUS motherboards you need to enable the "Memory Context Restore" BIOS option, which saves some memory training info after the first attempt and reuses that on subsequent reboots. Kinda dumb that the option is turned off by default, even on the latest 0805 BIOS from last month. With "Memory Context Restore" enabled, boot times are still longer than on other platforms, but only by a few seconds and are now in a range that I would call "acceptable."
 
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Runs significantly cooler. This is a nice advantage, cooling is cheaper. In terms of game performance, the performance does not decrease much compared to the X version, there is only 1.5% difference.
The processor I'm most waiting for right now is the 13400F. I was wondering about the two processor comparisons.
 
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Thanks for another review W1z, the 7600 is looking like a nice budget option if AMD can get A620 motherboards out.

Does the platform have an option for a 45w TDP or something lower then 65w, and does it make a substantial impact on performance and temps?
I find this part rather interesting


I've been complaining about extremely long boot times in my original Zen 4 reviews, and AMD assured us that these are fixed. To my surprise nothing was fixed and the new 65 W CPU models took just as long to boot—30 seconds or more—every single time. Turns out that on ASUS motherboards you need to enable the "Memory Context Restore" BIOS option, which saves some memory training info after the first attempt and reuses that on subsequent reboots. Kinda dumb that the option is turned off by default, even on the latest 0805 BIOS from last month. With "Memory Context Restore" enabled, boot times are still longer than on other platforms, but only by a few seconds and are now in a range that I would call "acceptable."
Interesting that intel doesnt have this issue, and neither does socket AM4.

Why on earth is that not on by default? It's not like asus is the only brand with long boot times.
 
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Runs significantly cooler. This is a nice advantage, cooling is cheaper. In terms of game performance, the performance does not decrease much compared to the X version, there is only 1.5% difference.
The processor I'm most waiting for right now is the 13400F. I was wondering about the two processor comparisons.
Hopefully there will be a review of the 13400F from TPU soon that will settle this point.
 
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AMD made serious mistake excluding DDR4 on AM5. Now ppl with older Zen 1/2 that want new platform, will choose Intel with powerfull Raptor with his pretty fast P-cores and plenty of E-cores, and also thanks to recycle their DDR4, what additionally make new platform cheaper.
 
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AMD made serious mistake excluding DDR4 on AM5. Now ppl with older Zen 1/2 that want new platform, will choose Intel with powerfull Raptor with his pretty fast P-cores and plenty of E-cores, and also thanks to recycle their DDR4, what additionally make new platform cheaper.
Why would they chose a new platform when a simply 5800x3d upgrade will blow their old setup out of the water for a far lower price then a part recycled intel platform?

There's a reason the 5000 series is still selling well.
 
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AMD made serious mistake excluding DDR4 on AM5. Now ppl with older Zen 1/2 that want new platform, will choose Intel with powerfull Raptor with his pretty fast P-cores and plenty of E-cores, and also thanks to recycle their DDR4, what additionally make new platform cheaper.
But the raptor with ddr4 is slow AF. Cheaper, maybe, but slow AF. 5800x3d is faster ddr4 option.
 
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I've been complaining about extremely long boot times in my original Zen 4 reviews, and AMD assured us that these are fixed. To my surprise nothing was fixed and the new 65 W CPU models took just as long to boot—30 seconds or more—every single time. Turns out that on ASUS motherboards you need to enable the "Memory Context Restore" BIOS option, which saves some memory training info after the first attempt and reuses that on subsequent reboots. Kinda dumb that the option is turned off by default, even on the latest 0805 BIOS from last month. With "Memory Context Restore" enabled, boot times are still longer than on other platforms, but only by a few seconds and are now in a range that I would call "acceptable."
Wow I thought I was the only one who had this problem and that I should've known. I complained about this on reddit and someone pointed it out and wham the AM5 experience improved so much. It's especially annoying because fanspeeds are set to 100% (WHY???) ASUS should really get blasted for this, bunch of fools.
Now we wait for the A620 boards to release for the AM5 puzzle to finally be complete and I can stop suggesting AM4.
7600 is a winner if it's at least 30$ cheaper or more.

I do think that the cooler is e-waste as long as the 5000 series is an option and cheaper. If you think the stock cooler is acceptable on a 7600X you can probably save a lot more by going AM4...
 

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Does the platform have an option for a 45w TDP or something lower then 65w, and does it make a substantial impact on performance and temps?
You can just set any value in PBO Advanced
 
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These non X CPUs look pretty great since they aren't pushed way past their efficiency curves like how the X versions and Intel's Raptor Lake.... With the decreased prices over their X-Variants these look way more appealing to be honest, although motherboard prices still need to improve...


While i am also curious about the locked Raptor Lake chips, i don't really see the 13600 and below performing well in single threaded stuff compared to Zen 4 and the Unlocked Raptor Lake chips because apparently the 13600 and below are just Alder Lake Refreshes with E-Cores, so I doubt that they'll bring about a great performance increase.
 
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Ryzen 5 3600 -> $135
Ryzen 5 5600 -> $135
Ryzen 5 7600 -> $230, wtf

Given that motherboard prices are also 2x as high, I wouldn't call this an affordable option. "Most" affordable Zen4 so far, but still overkill.
You're comparing the launch day MSRP of the 7600 to the current street prices of the Ryzen 3600 and 5600 that have been out for a longer time and have regularly went on sale in the past year or so, The 5600 had an MSRP of $200 i think when it came out in April 2022, same case with the 3600 when it launched in July 2019... Regarding Inflation a $30 price increase wouldn't be that far fetched
 

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Ryzen 5 3600 -> $135
Ryzen 5 5600 -> $135
Ryzen 5 7600 -> $230, wtf

Given that motherboard prices are also 2x as high, I wouldn't call this an affordable option. "Most" affordable Zen4 so far, but still overkill.
And did they launch at those prices?
 
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Thank you for both reviews :), as always great data and reading material :cool::respect:.
 
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Looks great for when A620 arrives. It's not bad value on B650 either, but it does seem wrong to spend more on the board than the CPU for a budget build.

13400F is the real competition with its cheap motherboards and cheap DDR4.
 
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Ryzen 5 3600 $200
Ryzen 5 5600 $180

At launch
5600 came out like a year and a half after the 5600X though. 7000 only came out a few months ago, so it's not that surprising.
 
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AMD made serious mistake excluding DDR4 on AM5. Now ppl with older Zen 1/2 that want new platform, will choose Intel with powerfull Raptor with his pretty fast P-cores and plenty of E-cores, and also thanks to recycle their DDR4, what additionally make new platform cheaper.
If Wizard used DDR4 with the Raptor Lake CPU's, they wouldn't be as fast as they are in this review. If people want a new platform, for ~$100 more(DDR5 is +$50, AMD B650 +$50), they can get an AM5 system that will be able to be upgradable(7000X3D series, 8000 series, 8000X3D series), unlike the LGA1700 Raptor Lake platform, which is now a dead end.
 
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This pricing makes ZERO sense... lowest rung non-X CPU (7600) is a whopping $70 cheaper than its X counterpart, yet the next one up (7700) is a mere $15 cheaper? Surely it should be the other way around?

It doesn't matter though, people are still not going to pay a premium for a 6-core 7600 + motherboard + DDR5 when you can get an 8-core 5800X3D + motherboard + DDR4 for less and have better gaming performance. I don't understand which genius at AMD thought that people would be happy to pay more for CPU performance, after years of the same company charging less. A smart company would be selling its newer CPUs for less than its old ones to encourage consumers to upgrade... maybe AMD is just hoping that AM4 stock will run out and consumers will be forced to buy AM5... or, maybe those consumers will just buy Intel...

Everything about AM5 has felt like the Bulldozer-era AMD TBH - clueless about the actual value proposition of their product and expecting people to buy it solely due to brand loyalty.
 
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These non-X CPUs are amazing. I absolutely love the 7600. 6 cores with high clocks and low power consumption. Brilliant. 5800X3D is no longer relevant for new system builders. Total platform cost is very similar, but you get an upgrade path with Zen 4.
I will probably be building a new rig towards the end of the year. Hopefully motherboard and RAM prices will go down a little, and the platform matures (there are some BIOS problems and stuff). This might be my first AMD platform in about a decade.
One thing I am curious about is what kind of performance difference memory makes. 6000 CL30 kits are 50% more expensive than CL36 kits, that is a gigantic price difference.

Intel is in trouble, with their locked and low-clocked Alder Lake rehash. And Meteor Lake for desktop is basically irrelevant.


Great review btw, although using a 3080 skews the data a lot. I assume you had to return your 4090?
Differences would be much bigger across all resolutions, but especially 4K.
 
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This pricing makes ZERO sense... lowest rung non-X CPU (7600) is a whopping $70 cheaper than its X counterpart, yet the next one up (7700) is a mere $15 cheaper? Surely it should be the other way around?

It doesn't matter though, people are still not going to pay a premium for a 6-core 7600 + motherboard + DDR5 when you can get an 8-core 5800X3D + motherboard + DDR4 for less and have better gaming performance. I don't understand which genius at AMD thought that people would be happy to pay more for CPU performance, after years of the same company charging less. A smart company would be selling its newer CPUs for less than its old ones to encourage consumers to upgrade... maybe AMD is just hoping that AM4 stock will run out and consumers will be forced to buy AM5... or, maybe those consumers will just buy Intel...

Everything about AM5 has felt like the Bulldozer-era AMD TBH - clueless about the actual value proposition of their product and expecting people to buy it solely due to brand loyalty.
With TPU's test suite, you get basically the exact same performance with a 7600 & DDR5 as the 5800X3D & DDR4 for less money. DDR5 prices keep going down.

7600: $230
DDR5(32GB,6000,36): $150
B650(ATX): $200
Total: $580

vs

5800X3D: $350
DDR4(32GB,3600,16): $115 ($60 for 16GB)
B550(ATX): $140
Total: $605 ($550 with only 16GB)

Doesn't seem worth it to go with the AM4 system anymore. Sure, there are some games that the 5800X3D is great at, but there are some games where the DDR5 or the IPC/Clock speed is the determining factor, and an AM5 platform will get the best of both worlds in the 7000X3D and probably even the 8000X3D CPU's in the future.
 
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These non X CPUs look pretty great since they aren't pushed way past their efficiency curves like how the X versions and Intel's Raptor Lake.... With the decreased prices over their X-Variants these look way more appealing to be honest, although motherboard prices still need to improve...


While i am also curious about the locked Raptor Lake chips, i don't really see the 13600 and below performing well in single threaded stuff compared to Zen 4 and the Unlocked Raptor Lake chips because apparently the 13600 and below are just Alder Lake Refreshes with E-Cores, so I doubt that they'll bring about a great performance increase.
Wrong.

13400F:
C0 / SRMBN - Alder Lake
B0 / SRMBG - Raptor Lake

13400:
C0 / SRMBP - Alder Lake
B0 / SRMBF - Raptor Lake

Raptor stepping can be significantly better. Gaming IPC performance increase for Raptor in 1% lows was at 6%. Tested in 6 games at 5Ghz, 13900K vs 12900K, RTX 4090 @1080p. On top of that, the memory controller has the same architecture but supposedly performs better because of some claimed improvements in Intel 7 lithography.
 
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