Avowed same FPS in every setting

[Roderika]

Hello guys, I'm having an issue in Avowed. No matter what settings I use, I get the same performance. Whether it's Native Epic Settings or DLSS Ultra Performance with Low Settings, my FPS stays between 40-50.

My specs:

• CPU: Ryzen 5 3600
• GPU: RTX 3070
• RAM: 16GB
• Storage: Kingston Renegade SSD

However, when I use an RX 6600 XT on the same PC, I get 60-70 FPS on Medium Settings with FSR Quality. Which is strange because this game heavily favors Nvidia.

Does anyone have an idea of what the problem could be? Thanks!

 

[droopyRO]

Maybe a CPU bottleneck combined with GPU overhead ? I would put the game on max settings, no DLSS/FSR and lower the resolution to whatever 1024x768 that game has and see if your frame rate is higher.

I got a 6650 XT for my backup rig, and my 2700X is a bottleneck for it in Warhammer Darktide for example. Modern games require modern CPUs.

 

[AsRock]

Unreal engine 5.x + how well the game is optimized.

For AMD there is newer drivers for it maybe the same for nVidia too ?. Another though is system ram.

 

[Chrispy_]

Hello guys, I'm having an issue in Avowed. No matter what settings I use, I get the same performance. Whether it's Native Epic Settings or DLSS Ultra Performance with Low Settings, my FPS stays between 40-50.

My specs:

• CPU: Ryzen 5 3600
• GPU: RTX 3070
• RAM: 16GB
• Storage: Kingston Renegade SSD

However, when I use an RX 6600 XT on the same PC, I get 60-70 FPS on Medium Settings with FSR Quality. Which is strange because this game heavily favors Nvidia.

Does anyone have an idea of what the problem could be? Thanks!

You're CPU limited for sure. The game is a mess and the CPU code is abysmal. I downloaded a pirate copy of it to see what the fuss was about and it runs poorly on even a high-end AM5 rig. As much as I like the Ryzen 5 3600, it's really showing its age now. Geforce drivers have much more CPU overhead than AMD drivers and that takes a big chunk out of the limited performance on the Ryzen 5 3600. By all means do a clean uninstall of the drivers with safe-mode DDU and then install the latest Nvidia drivers to rule it out, but 40-50fps is about what I'm seeing on Youtube for other people running GeForce cards with older CPUs - and their overlays show that their GPUs aren't fully loaded whilst their CPUs are up above 80% usage, likely capping out on a single thread that's holding up everything else.

If you have a good enough cooler and your board supports it, push your PPT to 130W or so, up from the default 88W. I can't remember if a B450 lets you use manual PBO+ on a non-X CPU. Another option, if you have a spare couple hundred bucks is to drop a 5700X3D into the socket and sell the 3600 for ~$50 - it's the best thing you can do for your system and should buy you another couple of years of dramatically improved performance in games. It's also a good enough processor that you'd be able to get a future GPU upgrade without wasting too much of its potential.

You don't mention what speed your RAM is, but Zen2 really didn't like slow DDR4 - if you're running anything less than DDR4-3200 you're likely leaving even more performance on the table. A 5700X3D won't care about RAM speeds, it doesn't need to use anywhere near as much memory bandwidth so dog-slow DDR4-2400 isn't really an issue for it.

 

[Roderika]

You're CPU limited for sure. The game is a mess and the CPU code is abysmal. I downloaded a pirate copy of it to see what the fuss was about and it runs poorly on even a high-end AM5 rig. As much as I like the Ryzen 5 3600, it's really showing its age now. Geforce drivers have much more CPU overhead than AMD drivers and that takes a big chunk out of the limited performance on the Ryzen 5 3600. By all means do a clean uninstall of the drivers with safe-mode DDU and then install the latest Nvidia drivers to rule it out, but 40-50fps is about what I'm seeing on Youtube for other people running GeForce cards with older CPUs - and their overlays show that their GPUs aren't fully loaded whilst their CPUs are up above 80% usage, likely capping out on a single thread that's holding up everything else.

If you have a good enough cooler and your board supports it, push your PPT to 130W or so, up from the default 88W. I can't remember if a B450 lets you use manual PBO+ on a non-X CPU. Another option, if you have a spare couple hundred bucks is to drop a 5700X3D into the socket and sell the 3600 for ~$50 - it's the best thing you can do for your system and should buy you another couple of years of dramatically improved performance in games. It's also a good enough processor that you'd be able to get a future GPU upgrade without wasting too much of its potential.

You don't mention what speed your RAM is, but Zen2 really didn't like slow DDR4 - if you're running anything less than DDR4-3200 you're likely leaving even more performance on the table. A 5700X3D won't care about RAM speeds, it doesn't need to use anywhere near as much memory bandwidth so dog-slow DDR4-2400 isn't really an issue for it.

Unreal engine 5.x + how well the game is optimized.

For AMD there is newer drivers for it maybe the same for nVidia too ?. Another though is system ram.

Hello guys, first of all, thanks for answering i appreciate your time.

I've been testing some things and realized that Avowed was not the only game underperforming. Horizon Zero Dawn Remastered is also experiencing issues. After disabling 4G decoding in the BIOS, I'm now getting around 60-70 FPS in Avowed (DLSS Quality+High setting) and around 70-80 FPS in Horizon Zero Dawn. Does this make any sense?

However, in both games, the framerate still drops to 50 FPS or even 40 FPS at times. In Horizon Zero Dawn, this only happens in some towns/cities (even really small ones). In Avowed, it happens randomly at any moment.

My RAM is running at 3200 MHz, with the XMP profile enabled in the BIOS.
I'm going to look into how to increase PPT. I have a Cooler Master Hyper 212 Turbo.

Update:
After trying a lot of things, like increasing PPT, I'm finally getting RTX 3070 performance in Horizon Zero Dawn (70-90 FPS), almost never dropping below 60 (only in the main city).
Avowed still runs like crap, frame rate is unbelievably random in this game. Im done with this game for now.
In case anybody wonders, what I did was enable 4G decoding again to be able to use ReBAR and update my GPU BIOS to support ReBAR. This gives me at least 5fps more, i believe.

 

[Chrispy_]

That would make sense if you had ReBAR off, and the ReBAR option is only available if 4G decoding is enabled.
4G decoding should be on by default, disabling it is only for ancient systems with less than 4GB RAM, and it's required for ReBAR which all modern GPUs expect to have access to out of the box - many of them underperform without it, especially Intel Arc cards that lose 30-60% of their performance without it.

If you want to get a better idea of where your performance bottleneck is, install and setup the MSI Afterburner overlay:

MSI Afterburner Overlay Customization Guide

Easiest way to customize MSI Afterburner overlay.

www.gamingpcbuilder.com

Realistically, drops to 40-50fps in CPU-intensive parts of the game aren't unexpected at all with a slower-clocked Zen2 part like the 3600. Just google the game in question + "Ryzen 5 3600" and you can sanity-check your own results. There are always loads of videos of people showing performance with the Afterburner overlay running for just about any combination of modern game and common hardware.

Unfortunately 3600's are just showing their age; Low boost clocks, missing out on four generations of architectural and IPC improvements, only 6 cores for >6 game threads. Stuff will still run okay but it's not going to be silky smooth in 2025's selection of CPU-heavy, poorly-optimised games. The 3600 was a great low-end CPU that punched well above its weight in games at the time, but that was six years ago and even higher-end CPUs of that age like the 3800X aren't doing so well in today's titles.