Bad blocks on new nvme

[SiriusD]

Hello. I just bought today a ADATA S40G Spectrix. I installed windows on it, all my apps...everything was good. Then I tried to download a file and after it finished downloading i got an I/O error and this warning in event viewer " The device, \Device\Harddisk0\DR0, has a bad block." I installed Hd Sentinel and did a surface scan and found 2 bad blocks. The S40G toolbox diagnostic scanner just sais scan completed...it doesnt show any details so I dont know the results. I'm thinking about returning it since it has bad blocks. What do you think about all this ? Thanks

 

[Ahhzz]

If it's brand new, I would absolutely return it for replacement. That event viewer log would have me yelling at the manufacturer for my clients ASAP.

 

[SiriusD]

Yeah it's brand new, not refurbished. I bought it today. Any replacement recomandation between Samsung 970 evo 1tb or Adata sx8200 pro 1tb ? or something else around this price range ? Also, isn't it weird the drive already had 1tb written? That made me think it wasn't new but the usage time was only 2 hours.

 

[Deleted member 193596]

if you want quality.
go with crucial or samsung.. nothing else.
not corsair, sabrent, adata, WD, Seagate or anything else.

 

[Hachi_Roku256563]

Ive only ever gone Wd and i have some 10 year old harddrives that are still going wd is amaizng
crucial drives though
i bought one of those and it failed within 4 yrs
Undersame work conditons

 

[Ahhzz]

I like the Samsungs, solid lines, but the WD I have in NVMe has been solid as well (ignoring the workhorse WD Black Satas I have all over the house).

 

[SiriusD]

I did a chkdsk /r and removed the game i downloaded yesterday and did a scan for bad sectors again and now i got zero bad sectors in hd sentinel, how is this possible ? maybe the scanner doesnt see them as bad sectors as it is no data in them now ? Or have the sectors been reallocated ? Im not into hdds at all.

 

[thesmokingman]

I did a chkdsk /r and removed the game i downloaded and did a scan for bad sectors again and now i got zero bad sectors in hd sentinel, how is this possible ? maybe the scanner doesnt see them as bad sectors as it is no data in them now ? Or have the sectors been reallocated ? Im not into hdds at all.

You probably got a bus error. What cpu... ah Ryzen. Did you raise the soc voltage? Too much soc voltage causes errors too.

 

[SiriusD]

You probably got a bus error. What cpu... ah Ryzen. Did you raise the soc voltage? Too much soc voltage causes errors too.

I didn't. I'm running stock.

 

[thesmokingman]

I didn't. I'm running stock.

I see. I would still recommend ya run hwinfo64 and then monitor for whea errors. You can also check event viewer to check on previous errors if any.

 

[Athlonite]

Adata sx8200 pro 1tb

I have this SSD and it's great no problems with it so far but you still have to understand that anything electronic has a chance of coming out of the factory with problems I'd just return it for another of the same ssd and see if you're having the same problem chances are you wont and if you are then maybe it's somewhere else in your setup. Adata are a good name brand and not overpriced like WD or Scamsung

 

[AeliusRuivus]

Hi guys, just found this page and it is the first one so far that describes my issues. Did you got any deeper on what might be going on? I'm baffled on how the bad block quantity changes each day (fortunately going down so far), and how could a new drive get them in the first place...

This was 2 days ago...

...this was yesterday

A little more background, in case this is useful:

My PC is a gaming Asus Zephyrus G14, with a Ryzen 4900. I got an OEM upgrade for an ADATA SX8100NP, a 2TB m.2 unit.

Last weekend I got an I/O error in a game, and out of curiosity decided to check the event viewer, where I got a ton of errors. Ran tests with some HDD utils (Macrorit and AOMEI), and I got the surface test bad blocks as well.

As pointed before, the failures varies (so far down) between tests: one program says 700 bad blocks one day, then 150 the next day - and yet another software solution says 19 errors one day, 15 the next (I assume the error count has something to do on how each software divides the drive).

Until I got those errors I was under the impression that SSDs couldn't get bad blocks, but I know better now after a very unpleasant crash course on SSD internals...
In any case, this drive came with my new PC, and it shows 400 hours in the SMART data (I'm using the PC every day since middle December 2020, so I think it makes sense)

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

crucial drives though
i bought one of those and it failed within 4 yrs

Looks like my MX500 is going to fail within 5 years, because it's only at 83 percent health, the last time I checked!

 

[freeagent]

Just curious what's wrong with WD? Seems ok?

I had a Crucial M4 256 with over 90% health that stopped working, no computer that its plugged into will boot with it installed. No Crucial for this guy..

 

[AsRock]

Hi guys, just found this page and it is the first one so far that describes my issues. Did you got any deeper on what might be going on? I'm baffled on how the bad block quantity changes each day (fortunately going down so far), and how could a new drive get them in the first place...

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This was 2 days ago...


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...this was yesterday

A little more background, in case this is useful:

My PC is a gaming Asus Zephyrus G14, with a Ryzen 4900. I got an OEM upgrade for an ADATA SX8100NP, a 2TB m.2 unit.

Last weekend I got an I/O error in a game, and out of curiosity decided to check the event viewer, where I got a ton of errors. Ran tests with some HDD utils (Macrorit and AOMEI), and I got the surface test bad blocks as well.

As pointed before, the failures varies (so far down) between tests: one program says 700 bad blocks one day, then 150 the next day - and yet another software solution says 19 errors one day, 15 the next (I assume the error count has something to do on how each software divides the drive).

Until I got those errors I was under the impression that SSDs couldn't get bad blocks, but I know better now after a very unpleasant crash course on SSD internals...
In any case, this drive came with my new PC, and it shows 400 hours in the SMART data (I'm using the PC every day since middle December 2020, so I think it makes sense)

Maybe RMA time, just might be one from a bad batch it happens.

 

[jsfitz54]

Hello. I just bought today a ADATA S40G Spectrix. I installed windows on it, all my apps...everything was good. Then I tried to download a file and after it finished downloading i got an I/O error and this warning in event viewer " The device, \Device\Harddisk0\DR0, has a bad block." I installed Hd Sentinel and did a surface scan and found 2 bad blocks. The S40G toolbox diagnostic scanner just sais scan completed...it doesnt show any details so I dont know the results. I'm thinking about returning it since it has bad blocks. What do you think about all this ? Thanks

How about running this: https://www.adata.com/en/ss/software-6/

 

[Solaris17]

are you guys really running surface tests on your SSDs?

 

[jaggerwild]

This is an old thread, Start a new one don't Thread NERCO AeliusRuivus, read the Rules before posting on a site!!!!!

 

[Hachi_Roku256563]

ikr this is ages ago and i keep getting notification from it

 

[timta2]

Hijacking someone else's thread to get help with your problem is a bad look.

 

[AsRock]

Hijacking WTF ?, Old thread again WTF, Still receiving notifications ? turn it off for this thread.

Is this forum getting that bad ?.

Anyways as @Solaris17 said, i hope they are not too. i tend to do it once when i have a new drive and that's it and just use HDS to monitor there after.

 

[AeliusRuivus]

This is an old thread, Start a new one don't Thread NERCO AeliusRuivus, read the Rules before posting on a site!!!!!

The thread is from last November, how is that necro posting? Besides, it contains the exact same issue that I have - therefore containing value in the input of those involved, that's why my post starts with a question to the OP. And for what I know of forum etiquette it is way better to use a compatible thread than ask the same thing again. Had I started a new thread, you can bet that someone would post a link to this thread berating me for not using the "search" function.
I also read indeed the rules before posting, and they say to report bad behavior instead of starting a drama, so I'll stop here and kindly ask you to do the same.

are you guys really running surface tests on your SSDs?

I'm also not happy about it, adding more wear to the drive, but I'm not sure of what else can I do... On the old mechanical days you kept an eye on them bad blocks to see if they spread, and this is the first time I see them... "receding", for lack of a better word. To be clear, I didn't even knew you could get bad blocks on SSDs, but apparently I was wrong.
SMART and chkdsk both reports that everything is OK, but event viewer keeps showing the error 7 (albeit with less frequency). The variation on the tests got me thinking that maybe something else is responsible for the bad reads - maybe a botched disk cloning on the OEM, but is this even possible? Could those be logical bad sectors instead of physical ones?

You probably got a bus error. What cpu... ah Ryzen. Did you raise the soc voltage? Too much soc voltage causes errors too.

Speaking on something else, this answer is what picked my interest in this thread in the first place, because it could explain the variation on the surface tests. Do you guys have more info on this?

Maybe RMA time, just might be one from a bad batch it happens.

I've contacted the OEM, but I purchased this machine in the US and I'm now in Israel, so I'll probably have to bite the bullet and buy the replacement out of pocket.
In any case, I haven't tried HDS yet because you have to pay for it, and I wanted to gather more info first. I take that you recommend it, right ?

How about running this: https://www.adata.com/en/ss/software-6/

I tried this one too, completely useless. The "extended" test was supposed to run for hours, according to the description, but it was over after 2 minutes with "everything OK" result.

 

[Ahhzz]

You guys need to calm down. This is a two month-old thread, and when a poster has something happening so close to the initial topic, it's not unreasonable to jump in and see if any of the original posters have any additional input, or someone forgot to respond with some useful feedback. If someone is so concerned about getting too many notifications, there's a simple solution: click the "UNWATCH" button at the top of the window.
The rest of you that might have some useful input and aren't put off by a discussion that started a whole two months ago, please see if there's anything the highly intelligent community here can bring to the table. Thanks!

 

[jsfitz54]

I tried this one too, completely useless. The "extended" test was supposed to run for hours, according to the description, but it was over after 2 minutes with "everything OK" result.

Can you post a screenshot using CrystalDiskInfo running 8.9.0a: https://crystalmark.info/en/download/ (Vista installer)
Under "Function" you can Hide Serial Number (always a good thing)

EDIT: also under Function>Advance Feature>Raw Values> (set: 10 [DEC] )

 

[AeliusRuivus]

Hi @jsfitz54, here it is:

For good measure, here is the result from HDS:

An earlier HDS surface test found 13 bad blocks and 1 damaged one, but for some reason I can't find the export file I (think I) saved.

I already made peace with the fact that I'll have to get a new drive, but I'm curious to understand what is going on here. I'm tempted to nuke all the data and try a full format to see what happens. I'm still intrigued by @thesmokingman comment there, my system is indeed a Ryzen system with all those bells and whistles that I don't fully understand