Bad perf on Rtx 3060 Ti in serveral games.

[Rayane]

Hi,
as I said previously, i've many fps issus in diff games. For example, I've 80 instead of 144+.

If anybody know why or want me to check something, just ask me.

Here is some informations,
- My PC :

Also, all is up to date.

I have 3 perfcap Reason, usually VRel, VOp and rarely, when I'm in the menu, Pwr.

Actually, my alimentation is 500W, 80PLUS BRONZE.

I tried DDU, reinstalling nvidia drivers, and checked everything in the bios. I don't know what shall I do except maybe another alim but I'm not pretty sure that's the reel reason of my perfcap...

Thanks for any help,

 

[eidairaman1]

Complete system components, also a 3060ti isn't going to do miracles.

 

[Rayane]

System Components :
Intel Core i5 11400F
mainboard : H510M PRO
ram : 16gb 1x
gpu : 3060ti
alim : 500W, 80PLUS BRONZE

According to what I see ; several benchmark and by comparing my gpu to those of my friend
Seems to be a problem, mostly when I play in very low on games getting the same amount of fps as a 2060 who's playing in ultra graphics

 

[eidairaman1]

What specific ram? also you are limiting your system performance by using only single channel, so there is 1 bottleneck there.

We need details

Who is the motherboard by?

 

[Batou1986]

according to that dump file you need to enable XMP for your ram in the bios
i see your using a 1080p monitor so i will assume thats the res your playing at the question is what games and benchmarks are you not seeing 144 in

 

[Selaya]

11400f & h510 seems like a recipe for disaster, you might get PL throttled due to insufficient vrms or something

 

[Rayane]

What specific ram? also you are limiting your system performance by using only single channel, so there is 1 bottleneck there.

We need details

Who is the motherboard by?

Mother Board by msi ==> H510M PRO
Memory infos :

MSI H510M PRO (MS-7D22) Performance Results - UserBenchmark

==>
Samsung M378A2G43AB3-CWE 1x16GB
1 of 2 slots used
16GB DIMM DDR4 clocked @ 3200 MHz

according to that dump file you need to enable XMP for your ram in the bios
i see your using a 1080p monitor so i will assume thats the res your playing at the question is what games and benchmarks are you not seeing 144 in

Yes, but actually the option XMP is not available in my bios. I already noticed that from many forums but I don't really understand how to make is available so If you've some good docs under the hand to give me, it will be very useful.

I've bad perf on many games such as Apex legends (having sometimes less then 100fps in very low with all in low graphics and disabled - seems not normal as I said regarding to what has got my friend with 2060 super ==> he has same fps in ultra graphics and more)

Here is what look like my bios ; nothing about enable XMP...

11400f & h510 seems like a recipe for disaster, you might get PL throttled due to insufficient vrms or something

I don't have any thermal issus and as I said previously, I've rarely the Pwr perfcap reason / I found nothing that alarmed me about power distribution or temp ...

 

[FreedomEclipse]

I must refer you to this thread

That board is probably horrible.

 

[Selaya]

oh wow singlesticc too, yeah you should change that asap since dual channel memory's a big performance uplift

 

[Batou1986]

XMP is not available in my bios

Yep quick google search confirms that it locks it to the CPU, cant say with certainty this is the only issue but no xmp and only single channel ram will tank your FPS especially when shooting for 100+ FPS even on lowest settings because everything is being bottlenecked by the ram no matter how fast the CPU or GPU

 

[Rayane]

Thanks guys for those informations. In the future I will buy new ram and if dual channel don't fix the problem, I will find a new motherboard. (hope this will )

 

[QuietBob]

Can you click on the highlighted XMP Profile 1 button in the upper left corner? Plus, you're running IMC in Gear 2 - try forcing Gear 1 from the indicated menu. Also, your chipset temperature is rather toasty showing 68c in idle, you could try adding a front fan if your case supports it:

 

[Rayane]

I can't according to what he said. Also, the option is not available. When I click on, nothing happen. So you tell me to try gear 1, I will.

Yep quick google search confirms that it locks it to the CPU, cant say with certainty this is the only issue but no xmp and only single channel ram will tank your FPS especially when shooting for 100+ FPS even on lowest settings because everything is being bottlenecked by the ram no matter how fast the CPU or GPU

I have a question, I checked many benchmark on internet showing single channel ram vs dual and I don't see a difference...

oh wow singlesticc too, yeah you should change that asap since dual channel memory's a big performance uplift

So I think changing my motherboard might be the only solution ???

Here is what happen if I put gear 1 in my bios. So I came back to auto

About the temp issus, I tried to OC my gpu to fix the problem so this is the reason. No worries about the temp

 

[QuietBob]

Here is what happen if I put gear 1 in my bios. So I came back to auto

Gear 1 will always give you better performance in games than Gear 2. Try lowering your RAM speed to 3000/2933/2800/2666 with Gear 1 enabled and see if it boots.
If not, you'll definitely need a better motherboard and a dual kit of 3600/16 RAM.

 

[Rayane]

Gear 1 will always give you better performance in games than Gear 2. Try lowering your RAM speed to 3000/2933/2800/2666 with Gear 1 enabled and see if it boots.
If not, you'll definitely need a better motherboard and a dual kit of 3600/16 RAM.

Thaaanks man, that fixed a little bit my problem. I earned some fps. Anyway, I know now that my motherboard is the problem. Obviously, because she don't support high frequency ram and is too light for my rtx maybe

 

[QuietBob]

Thaaanks man, that fixed a little bit my problem

Glad it helped! What speed are you running your RAM at now?
When looking for a new motherboard, keep in mind that not all will support Gear 1 above 3200 with Rocket Lake. I verified 3600 to work on the MSI B560 Tomahawk with an i5-11400, so I can recommend that one.

 

[eidairaman1]

Glad it helped! What speed are you running your RAM at now?
When looking for a new motherboard, keep in mind that not all will support Gear 1 above 3200 with Rocket Lake. I verified 3600 to work on the MSI B560 Tomahawk with an i5-11400, so I can recommend that one.

You think tighter ram timings normally associated with lower clocked ram may have helped?

 

[Batou1986]

You think tighter ram timings normally associated with lower clocked ram may have helped?

unless im confused gear 2 runs at half the speed so 3000 at gear 1 is actually 3000 where 3200 at gear 2 is actually 1600
quote from PCG

For example, at DDR4-3200 with Gear 1, the memory and memory controller are both running at 1,600MHz (remember that DDR refers to double data rate). When Gear 2 is selected, the memory speed would be 1600MHz while the memory controller is reduced to 800MHz.

 

[eidairaman1]

unless im confused gear 2 runs at half the speed so 3000 at gear 1 is actually 3000 where 3200 at gear 2 is actually 1600
quote from PCG

Yeah I'm not sure on Intel systems, I'm a old schooler with a FX. Mine is at 2400 XMP 2 setting with tighter timings, the CPU is multiplier OCD only (200*25)=5000. If I touch the FSB the 2400 would increase.

 

[QuietBob]

You think tighter ram timings normally associated with lower clocked ram may have helped?

That too, as well as enabling Gear 1. Running IMC and RAM 1:1 results in lower latencies, which games in particular benefit from. As @Batou1986 said, Gear 2 will clock the IMC at only half the speed of RAM.

 

[Rayane]

Glad it helped! What speed are you running your RAM at now?
When looking for a new motherboard, keep in mind that not all will support Gear 1 above 3200 with Rocket Lake. I verified 3600 to work on the MSI B560 Tomahawk with an i5-11400, so I can recommend that one.

As far as I remember, It's arround 2900Mhz (I couldn't put more than 2900) instead of 3200/2 (because of gear 2 ==> 1600). So It fixed so much the problem, I earned like 50+fps. It will be my temporary solution until I change my motherboard to a better one (MSI B560 Tomahawk as you recommended me)

 

[720p low]

If this was happening to me, I think I'd invest in a dual-channel memory kit first, and see what benefit that brings before trying a new motherboard. After all, I would want a dual channel arrangement with a new motherboard, so it's money I would spend anyway.

With a proper pair of matched DIMMs, you might gain enough with your current board to get the performance you are seeking, and it would keep you from having any issues with your Windows registration key *if* you are using an OEM version of the OS.