BSOD Memory Addresses

[OMGH4X!]

hey,

I've been getting a lot of errors recently... i tried using dumpchk but symbols confuse me..
i downloaded this and i just noticed that all the errors refer to stuff at 0x81c***** ... what's so special about there?

I know it's probably a dumb question, but google wont tell me..
Here's some screens so you know what i'm talkin 'bout..

 

[Mussels]

usually worthless to go that far into it, its a memory error - so look into the memory being bad.

 

[OMGH4X!]

I'm sure it seems that way, but i replaced teh memorys less than a month ago and that didn't fix it

 

[streetfighter 2]

Looks like an unspecified hardware failure to me. Unfortunately I'm not an expert in troubleshooting blue screens.

My first inclination is to run memtest for several hours. If any errors pop up it's your memory.

Additionally, as per tradition, I'd say update drivers, run virus scanners and uninstall useless programs. Running chkdsk can't hurt either.

 

[Mussels]

I'm sure it seems that way, but i replaced teh memorys less than a month ago and that didn't fix it

disable all overclocks, check all voltages/settings.

you will NEVER track down the hardware problem through software errors, since so many pieces of hardware could cause the error (motherboard, ram, CPU, memory controller)

 

[OMGH4X!]

it's all stock, no oc.

ram auto @ 1.5v 9-9-9-24 (i think..)

only thing i changed in bios was to make my CPU fan not sound like a jet (ie. QFan:Enabled, CPU QFanerformance)

''you will NEVER track down the hardware problem through software errors, since so many pieces of hardware could cause the error (motherboard, ram, CPU, memory controller)''

damn.. would it at least be safe to assume that since i just replaced my ram and CPU's rarely break, it's most likely to be my MB?

 

[Mussels]

yeah, its likely to be MB - but that doesnt mean its bad.

you said you left ram on auto, which is likely the problem right there. manually set timings and voltages.

 

[OMGH4X!]

Well my mb manual just says 1.5v and CAS 9 for this ram. what should i fill in for the other settings?

Any chance if i post a pic of the memory section of my bios here and some specs for my ram, someone would be able to tell me the exact values i should input?

 

[Mussels]

why would your motherboard manual know what your ram settings are? it'll be on the sticker on the ram modules

 

[OMGH4X!]

Well that's what the it says on the QVL...

My ram sticker (iirc) says like 9-9-9-24... but there's more values to set than that, right? should i leave them on auto or what?

 

[Mussels]

Well that's what the it says on the QVL...

My ram sticker (iirc) says like 9-9-9-24... but there's more values to set than that, right? should i leave them on auto or what?

well those would be a good start, set those, and set whatever voltage it wants as well. 1.5v is just the default, some ram requires higher than that.

 

[caleb]

Remove all additional add in cards from PCI. Trun OFF ACPI in BIOS boot up Win ,reboot, Turn ACPI ON boot Win. If you cant find the option then after step one reset your BIOS.
Do this even if you don't have any PCI stuff in maybe you had before. Strange things happen when you put old hardware into new motherboards. Had bsods all the time in P35 board and the problem was that guy put an old tv card in it and totally messed up OS hardware managment. The solution above solved it.

PC should run with defaults out of the box, I don't think chaning memory settings will solve your problem specially when you already replaced the mem sticks...
You reinstalled OS ? After that its just replacing hardware and trying.

 

[Steevo]

Alot of times the issue is a bad device driver that mishandles memory and so windows shuts down to prevent eh driver from overwriting some part of the active pages of other processes as there is no alternative.

If you post the whole error or the dumps sometimes you can just look at the memory address the fault occurred at, and the look through the process list to see what was using it, and what tried to access it.


If it is a hardware failure then you CAN use memtest X86 or X64 to diagnose that part, and you CAN run certain tests on your CPU, however som eof the advanced functions may not be in ANY test, such as the decode part that may be used for specific instruction sets causing corruption of items processed.

However Occam's Razor, and we have a simple driver, software or misconfiguration error.

 

[OMGH4X!]

Well i put 1333mhz 1.5v 9-9-9-24 and got another BSOD..

It also freezed with gibberish text on the screen after restarting to bios

think it would be safe to try at 1.6 or 1.7v?

Alot of times the issue is a bad device driver that mishandles memory and so windows shuts down to prevent eh driver from overwriting some part of the active pages of other processes as there is no alternative.

If you post the whole error or the dumps sometimes you can just look at the memory address the fault occurred at, and the look through the process list to see what was using it, and what tried to access it.

If it is a hardware failure then you CAN use memtest X86 or X64 to diagnose that part, and you CAN run certain tests on your CPU, however som eof the advanced functions may not be in ANY test, such as the decode part that may be used for specific instruction sets causing corruption of items processed.

However Occam's Razor, and we have a simple driver, software or misconfiguration error.

Thanks... i will be running some memtest just as soon as i can acquire a working sata cdrom drive..

I would however like to think that after three re-installs and still experiencing the recurring errors, that i have eliminated software as an issue..

Remove all additional add in cards from PCI. Trun OFF ACPI in BIOS boot up Win ,reboot, Turn ACPI ON boot Win. If you cant find the option then after step one reset your BIOS.
Do this even if you don't have any PCI stuff in maybe you had before. Strange things happen when you put old hardware into new motherboards. Had bsods all the time in P35 board and the problem was that guy put an old tv card in it and totally messed up OS hardware managment. The solution above solved it.

PC should run with defaults out of the box, I don't think chaning memory settings will solve your problem specially when you already replaced the mem sticks...
You reinstalled OS ? After that its just replacing hardware and trying.

Hmm.. thanks i did look at the APCI option but i was deterred by the big 'Changing This Option May Cause Your System To Malfunction' warning...

I will definitely give it a go.. at this point i'm willing to try anything

 

[Steevo]

I actually just had a PFN_LIST_CORRUPT earlier while watching some netflix. The ATI display driver is at fault, it is trying to allocate the next logical block of addresses, and it is in use, it tries again and the system BSOD on me.


Most of your errors are coming from within windows itself. IRQ NOT LESS OR EQUAL is from a device that is requesting a interrupt request that is a higher order request(a lower number) than it was assigned, meaning that there is a bad device driver, or you need to configure a device manually.


KERNEL_MODE bla bla bla

# 0xC0000005: STATUS_ACCESS_VIOLATION

A memory access violation occurred.



I am guessing either you have your memory configured improperly, or it has a compatibility issue, or you have a driver that is causing the issue.

 

[Mussels]

OMGH4X!, try 1.60v on the ram

 

[OMGH4X!]

i'll do that now

Edit: 1333 9-9-9-24 1.6v no crashes so far... don't wanna jinx it but it's looking pretty stable so far.. i'll keep y'all posted though

Edit: Well still no crashes after some gaming.. seems i'm still getting hangs during gaming

let me explain; When my system would crash, it would hang for like a couple of seconds before crashing (displaying the last image on the screen and looping a half second or so of sound from when the 'hang' started), then there's a bunch of multicolored pixelation/snow, then blue screen...

since i raised it to 1.6v so far it only 'hang' for a couple of seconds, and then goes back to normal

is there like a rule-of-thumb max voltage for DDR3 or are all brands/models different?

 

[OMGH4X!]

Relatively stable all of yesterday, no crashes after i bumped up the voltage....

This morning i got 3 'lock-ups' and 2 BSOD's trying to boot...

Put everything back to auto to get it to boot...

This might sound crazy, but it's starting to seem like my memory is fine unless i leave the system off for a long period of time; The longer it's been 'up' for, the less likely it is to throw a BSOD..

 

[streetfighter 2]

Did you run memtest?

What OS are you running? I'm assuming you run 7 or vista, have you tried XP and see if you get the same problem? I only ask because I have a system that for some ungodly reason will not run 7 32/64 stable but runs XP rock solid. It gets blue screens (much as you're describing) but only in 7. My current theory with that particular system is that it gets blue screens from intermittent core failure which I've noticed on that particular s***piece of an HP computer I got for free.

I'm running on thin ice here, but I'm willing to admit it.

 

[Mussels]

Relatively stable all of yesterday, no crashes after i bumped up the voltage....

This morning i got 3 'lock-ups' and 2 BSOD's trying to boot...

Put everything back to auto to get it to boot...

This might sound crazy, but it's starting to seem like my memory is fine unless i leave the system off for a long period of time; The longer it's been 'up' for, the less likely it is to throw a BSOD..

that kind of thing is actually quite possible, if the power circuitry on the board is faltering. as they warm up they provide one voltage, when they're cold, they provide another.

its starting to look more and more like the board is in fact, bad.

 

[OMGH4X!]

I still have to get a new cd drive before i can run memtest... the one i was using gave up teh goat..

Yea, Vista 32. i have had xp running stable on this system before... I also did try win7 but it would make my computer power itself off randomly with no shutdown

 

[OMGH4X!]

that kind of thing is actually quite possible, if the power circuitry on the board is faltering. as they warm up they provide one voltage, when they're cold, they provide another.

its starting to look more and more like the board is in fact, bad.

Well... at least it's still under warranty from the retailer, maybe i'll just grab another board and see if it doesn't fix my problem

 

[Mussels]

please, edit! dont double post.


sounds like 7 was using more of your hardware to run, and it didnt like it.

if its not the board, it could be the PSU - quality brand or not, they can still fail sometimes.

 

[Steevo]

Reinstall 7 and run with just windows drivers and see what it does then.

 

[OMGH4X!]

Ok so now i'm thinking maybe it's the CPU...

Reason being sometimes it's only booting up with three cores instead of four.. i guess this could be motherboard/voltage as well though right...?

I have a cd drive now so i can run some memtest... guess i'll post tomorrow