Can I add an R9 290 to this system?

[DanDaniel10]

CPU:
Intel Core i5-4590 3.3 GHz 3.7Ghz Turbo LGA1150 Tray


CPU COOLER:
Arctic Cooling Alpine 11 Rev. 2


MOTHERBOARD:
Gigabyte GA-H81M-HD3 Front USB3

CASE + PSU:
SS PRECISION 08 + FSP HEXA 600W


RAM:
Hynix Original 8GB DDR3 1600


HDD:
WD 1TB Sata3 Caviar Blue 1TB Platter

As far as I searched in the internet it seems it should be fine, isn't it?

 

[happita]

Should be perfectly fine. Go for it.

 

[Law-II]

Hi

I would spend a little more and get a better motherboard with native PCIe 3.0 support; just my 2 cents Edit: @OP the card should work as intended by the manufacturer but at PCIe 2.0 due to motherboard limitations.

@FX-GMC [may just be me and my train of thought; however I find it odd that a system builder would pair a £300.00 graphic card with a motherboard that cost less than a game]
Edit: must be my OCD having a CPU and Graphic Card support PCIe 3.0 and not having support on the motherboard is just something personal to me

atb

Law-II

 

[FX-GMC]

Hi

I would spend a little more and get a better motherboard with native PCIe 3.0 support; just my 2 cents

atb

Law-II

Not worth it for a single card. My 2¢

 

[Devon68]

Can I add an R9 290 to this system?
Yes. The card will work perfectly.

 

[T-Bob]

Yes, you won't have any problems running a R9 290 with this system.

 

[DanDaniel10]

http://www.fsplifestyle.com/product.php?LID=1&PSN=614
But I see here that it says

• Hight efficiency >80%

That means that I will only get 480W

 

[Scrizz]

yes

 

[Law-II]

Hi

http://www.fsplifestyle.com/product.php?LID=1&PSN=614
But I see here that it says Hight efficiency >80% That means that I will only get 480W

http://powersupplycalculator.net/

atb

Law-II

 

[manofthem]

Just for reference, my whole system w/ a 4770k @4.4 and a 290 @1050/1375 on a bronze psu pulled 412w in 3DMark13 at the wall, higher I had seen from any game (I'm not considering furmark).

So presumably your system will be a bit lower than that.

 

[thebluebumblebee]

http://www.fsplifestyle.com/product.php?LID=1&PSN=614
But I see here that it says

• High efficiency >80%

That means that I will only get 480W

NO! (Where does this idea keep coming from? Are unscrupulous merchants trying to trick people into buying larger, and therefore more expensive, PSU's than they need? )
Efficiency has to do with how much of the power that the PSU takes in from the wall socket is converted to power that the PC can use. Your PSU is rated at 600 watts OUTPUT. That means, if you were able to put a 100% load on the system and then measure the wattage from the wall, it would be 720 watts or so. (This is how PSU's are supposed to be rated. Some of the really cheap ones seem to be rated by their power draw from the wall. If you want to see what I mean, go search for "gutless" in JG's reviews)
(I hate it when I try to find info on an item and there's none to be had. www.jonnyguru.com reviewed the 400 watt version, so drawing on that review, I think your PSU is okay)
The R9 290 requires a 6-pin and 8-pin PCI-Express power connector, and is basically a 250 watt GPU. Your PSU has 2 PCI-E 6+2 pin connectors. You should be fine.
BTW, I have another quick rule of thumb. Assuming that we're talking about a decent PSU, if the GPU pulls less than 51% of the PSU's rated capacity, you are good to go.

 

[DanDaniel10]

NO! (Where does this idea keep coming from? Are unscrupulous merchants trying to trick people into buying larger, and therefore more expensive, PSU's than they need? )
Efficiency has to do with how much of the power that the PSU takes in from the wall socket is converted to power that the PC can use. Your PSU is rated at 600 watts OUTPUT. That means, if you were able to put a 100% load on the system and then measured the wattage from the wall it would be at 720 watts or so. (This is how PSU's are supposed to be rated. Some of the really cheap ones seem to be rated by their power draw from the wall. If you want to see what I mean, go search for "gutless" in JG's reviews)
(I hate it when I try to find info on an item and there's none to be had. www.jonnyguru.com reviewed the 400 watt version, so drawing on that review, I think your PSU is okay)
The R9 290 requires a 6-pin and 8-pin PCI-Express power connector, and is basically a 250 watt GPU. Your PSU has 2 PCI-E 6+2 pin connectors. You should be fine.
BTW, I have another quick rule of thumb. Assuming that we're talking about a decent PSU, if the GPU pulls less than 51% of the PSU's rated capacity, you are good to go.

I didn't understand what you meant by "if the GPU pulls less than 51% of the PSU's rated capacity, you are good to go."

 

[erocker]

The answer is yes. Everything in your system is sufficient to run pretty much any newer single GPU card on the market.

Enjoy.

 

[FX-GMC]

I didn't understand what you meant by "if the GPU pulls less than 51% of the PSU's rated capacity, you are good to go."

Guess he means his rule of thumb is if the GPU uses less than half the PSU's output then the rest of the system should have the other half of the PSU's output to work with. It's actually sound logic b/c high end GPU's are the most power hungry component in a computer (except for maybe an OC'd AMD FX 8-core )

 

[thebluebumblebee]

I didn't understand what you meant by "if the GPU pulls less than 51% of the PSU's rated capacity, you are good to go."

Your PSU is rated at 600 watts. If you look at the peak power consumption chart in w1zzard's review, and it's less than 51% (what I'm really saying is less than or equal to 50%) of your PSU's rated output, than you are (normally) good to go. In your case, 245/600 x 100%=40.8%

The answer is yes. Everything in your system is sufficient to run pretty much any newer single GPU card on the market.

Enjoy.

^this.

 

[Aquinus]

I didn't understand what you meant by "if the GPU pulls less than 51% of the PSU's rated capacity, you are good to go."

That's not the problem. Wattage is measured from the DC side after the unit has already regulated the voltages and such, it does not measure max AC voltage and current.

That means a decent 600-watt unit should be able to output that much power, however at 80% efficency, you would see 720-watts being drawn off the wall since 20% is lost to leakage in the conversion process. It doesn't go the other way like you suggest where PSU can only output 480-watts and the input is restricted to 600-watts. That's just wrong. Don't spread misinformation.

 

[erocker]

That's not the problem. Wattage is measured from the DC side after the unit has already regulated the voltages and such, it does not measure max AC voltage and current.

That means a decent 600-watt unit should be able to output that much power, however at 80% efficency, you would see 720-watts being drawn off the wall since 20% is lost to leakage in the conversion process. It doesn't go the other way like you suggest where PSU can only output 480-watts and the input is restricted to 600-watts. That's just wrong. Don't spread misinformation.

He was asking a question. Spreading misinformation?

Why is such an issue being made over a simple question with a simple answer? Perhaps this discussion is best for a thread dealing with how PSU's work.

 

[FX-GMC]

He was asking a question. Spreading misinformation?

Why is such an issue being made over a simple question with a simple answer? Perhaps this discussion is best for a thread dealing with how PSU's work.

He simply quoted the wrong post.

http://www.fsplifestyle.com/product.php?LID=1&PSN=614
But I see here that it says

• Hight efficiency >80%

That means that I will only get 480W

 

[Aquinus]

He was asking a question. Spreading misinformation?

Why is such an issue being made over a simple question with a simple answer? Perhaps this discussion is best for a thread dealing with how PSU's work.

There was a more fundamental problem. I quoted the follow up. If you keep clicking the "so-and-so said" links, it will bring you to this post.

http://www.fsplifestyle.com/product.php?LID=1&PSN=614
But I see here that it says

• Hight efficiency >80%

That means that I will only get 480W

 

[thebluebumblebee]

That's just wrong. Don't spread misinformation.

I'm trying to find where this misinformation is coming from. It is an all too common misconception. Where else in life would you expect a product to perform in such a manner? "It is a 5 passenger car, until we put the interior in, then only 4 can fit."

Why is such an issue being made over a simple question with a simple answer?

It has been my experience that once you understand this, it is simple, but it is hard to change people's views on this. I am amazed at how often this question is raised with the same misconception. I try to answer the question with the "if you teach a man to fish..." ideology. I will not trust someone's "just do it" response, except those who I have grown to trust over time, but I do not expect a new forum member to know who they can trust.

Perhaps this discussion is best for a thread dealing with how PSU's work.

We have some threads like that, but I think we need a simple FAQ type thread.....