CPU temperature different when using Balanced

[Atekk920]

i7 13700k under Deepcool LT720 360 AIO
5.6Ghz x2, 5.5Ghz x8 with TVB down bin to 5.1Ghz x8 at 85c
4.4Ghz E cores
LLC high
AC\DC LL 0.02\0.02
Making only a change to the power plan in use- The balanced plan scores about 200pts less in CB23 (29300's) vs the High-Performance plan (29500's), but the High-Performance power plan runs about 8-10c hotter. Anyone have any links or input on a detailed breakdown of the differences between power plans and how they affect CPU features\voltages\temps etc.? Help Appreciated

 

[Toothless]

Well yeah it's going to run hotter, you're allowing it more power. A car is going to use more gas if you floor the damn thing.

 

[ir_cow]

Anyone have any links or input on a detailed breakdown of the differences between power plans and how they affect CPU features\voltages\temps etc.? Help Appreciated

I think wizard covers this in the TPU Reviews.

 

[Atekk920]

Well yeah it's going to run hotter, you're allowing it more power. A car is going to use more gas if you floor the damn thing.

I understand that basic concept. But I'm wondering if things like speedstep TVB, c-states, etc. are modified or ignored when you switch over to high performance.

 

[Toothless]

I understand that basic concept. But I'm wondering if things like speedstep TVB, c-states, etc. are modified or ignored when you switch over to high performance.

Chip allows X limits, Windows uses those limits in performance. Balanced favors a lower power draw yet just enough for a middle of the road performance run.

 

[P4-630]

Balanced favors a lower power draw yet just enough for a middle of the road performance run.

I game on balanced and still all my P-Cores run @ 5Ghz when there is enough workload, depending on the game, it may clock down when no full power required.

On high performance power plan the CPU stays at max boost clock per cores.

 

[nomdeplume]

I game on balanced and still all my P-Cores run @ 5Ghz when there is enough workload, depending on the game, it may clock down when no full power required.

On high performance power plan the CPU stays at max boost clock per cores.

I as well.

Ultimate Performance is the better suited option to delineate worthwhile changes if power usage proves the only impactful element. Dumping watts into a problem is less part of the design routine than in years past. So...

Making only a change to the power plan in use- The balanced plan scores about 200pts less in CB23 (29300's) vs the High-Performance plan (29500's), but the High-Performance power plan runs about 8-10c hotter. Anyone have any links or input on a detailed breakdown of the differences between power plans and how they affect CPU features\voltages\temps etc.? Help Appreciated

You are looking in the wrong direction to explain differences.

Firstmost is BIOS. Which runs the extremes between ultra economy (high C/... states) and gaming (imagine fire emoji forum software disallowed) mobo.
Second is your PSU's ability to deliver accurate responsive power based on hardware demands which vary by processor/mobo/accessories.

Finally, OS settings including power plan used. This is where the differences you noticed are regulated. Balanced is actually a very good well rounded daily use setting when on call performance is required. Where you will sustain a hit during typical use is on quad core or older hardware running illegal copies of W11.

Modern processors are smarter but can still run up against a wall in some scenarios that aren't present with Ultimate Performance. This has to do with the software side of boost as near as I can tell. OS politely reminds processor it should be running more efficiently and refuses to make full use of what is on tap for a number of minutes with any number of power limiting options in use. This appears to be differentiated between gaming and program usage as recognized by OS. Benchmarks or something like Photoshop have in my experience a point 10-15 minutes into 100% cpu usage where a noticeable unbinding occurs when using Balanced or lower power plans. Having any economy settings checked in BIOS or proprietary mobo software returns you to the start.