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Creative Eax

saikou

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Processor Intel Pentium D Hyper Threading @ 3Ghz
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im upgrading my mb sound to a creative audigy or xfi gamer. the audigy has eax hd 4 but the x fi has eax hd 5. is eax hd 5 that much better that it justifies more than 100+ on the price tag?
 
I would have to say no, I got an X-Fi Extreme Music for about $60 a couple months ago, granted it's way better than the crappy on-board sound chip on my P5B (a lot of them had issues w/sound chips).

What is your primary reason for upgrading? I am picky about sound, but I couldn't take the failing and fuzzy sound my board was providing me, but all my older boards w/onboard were just fine for my needs. I haven't really noticed any performance increases from a dedicated sound card, and I wouldn't upgrade to a new card for EAX. It does have some extra sound effects and such, but really, it's not that big of a deal...kinda over hyped in my opinion.

But if you want better sound quality, then there is no problems with tossing in a sound card. Some are pickier than others, and others have their opinions, these are just mine. I wouldn't have an X-Fi if my onboard sound didn't fail, but I'm glad I have it.

Just make sure to do your research, maybe find a friend that has an add-in sound card to compare to what you already have. And I wouldn't pay more for EAX 5.0, but that's just me.

Hope that helps!

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my current sound card is not compatible with vista. im running it but i got no sound.
 
CMedia is pretty popular for headset's and stuff...but no support in vista eh? Bummer...

There have been issues for X-Fi's also, you have to use a program called Alchemy for "some" EAX support in Vista but not nearly all. It's an ongoing deal..so if you're after EAX...get off of Vista. I didn't like Alchemy, and actually am back on XP again. XP is X-Fi's environment IMO, but mine did work just fine in Vista, I had full surround sound, just no EAX, and it really didn't bother me, I generally don't turn it on if I have the option to when gaming in XP as I feel it's not that important.

You may want to research driver compatability and support, along with issues, support and problems for sound cards you're planning on purchasing. You may save yourself a lot of headache by spending more time finding out what is good with Vista or what is capable of what you want in Vista.

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Be wary of Creative cards and Vista. Creative send out updated drivers once in a while, but there are still some issues with XFI and Vista. Using the Creative software, it has trouble switching between settings and will lock up constantly (at least for me). Not the ideal solution for gaming on Vista, hence I do my gaming on my XP drive - and the card is amazing in that OS.


Edit: Also - what Kursah said - do some research (creative forums etc.) before you jump into a sound card if Vista is going to be your mainly used OS.

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yeah i do all my gaming on xp but i wanted to just ditch xp and make the full switch to vista. if its not worth i wont switch
 
I've used both, for extended periods. XP since 01 and Vista on and off for the last year (about 8 months of it...), and I do have to say both are very similar. Vista takes more resources, but does have some nice browsing/looks. Support is better than earlier this year, but there are still issues. If you like to game and know you're getting the best performance, XP is the way to go for now.

I will go back to Vista (probably on a secondary boot drive) to play around with it again, as I do like how it works, I don't like what it does though. DX10 is not worth Vista, but then again I don't have a DX10 card as of yet. Really, you gotta try it for yourself and see if it's what you want or not. Just be prepared for a let-down or two, or a limitation here and there. As I said it's a lot better than it was IMO, and it can only improve...XP was the same way when it was released, I just don't think Vista will have the staying power of XP in the long run and that MS will in-fact replace it sooner than later, which would be a good move imo.

But also noted, my 3d gaming performance wasn't that much worse in Vista recently, and in some cases was almost dead-even...and as long as I didn't mess with Alchemy too much, most of my games were fine.

You'll be fine if you do your research and expect or are willing to deal with issues that may be un-avoidable.

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i have the audigy2 zs, and i hate it, i will try the x-fi again when i get a chance to, i didnt have the last one i borrowed long enough.

the audgy2 software and drivers were dreadful, there is far too many checks and crap in them, mine keeps telling me that "no compatible hardware device was found" when i try opening various parts oft he software, but it IS a retail card, the x-fi version i borrowed was an OEM card, with hacked software to allow it to be used with NON-Retail cards, and it worked fine.

i have never seen any software/driver packs so bloated as the creative ones, they are worse than nero in my mind.

creative have recently allowed via licensing other companies to produce cards based on their Creative X-FI™ chipset, see below for an example (only one i know of att he moment) ... not sure if their software/drivers pack is any better or not though

http://www.auzentech.com/site/products/x-fi_prelude.php



EDIT: sorry, forgot to say, i'm using winXP 32bit SP2
 
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