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Need to load a hypervisor so that I can run win 7, XP, Vail and ubuntu on a single desktop. Not necessarily all at once. Win 7 all the time, XP when I scan, vail and ubuntu to play with from time to time.

(Right now running win 7 native with virtual PC for XP)

Downloading ubuntu server as we speak and probably xen as well. Looking for a lightweight hypervisor to let me run all that stuff.

Any input or opinions?
 
Is virtualization enabled in the bios ? If no, you will need to fresh install windows once enabled, for it to take effect.

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Sometimes one should read a user's name more carefully lol.. I'm sure you know this already ! heh..
 
JF-AMD said:
Need to load a hypervisor so that I can run win 7, XP, Vail and ubuntu on a single desktop. Not necessarily all at once. Win 7 all the time, XP when I scan, vail and ubuntu to play with from time to time.

(Right now running win 7 native with virtual PC for XP)

Downloading ubuntu server as we speak and probably xen as well. Looking for a lightweight hypervisor to let me run all that stuff.

Any input or opinions?
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hmmmm, I smell some benchmarking on new hardware for clients afoot. I dualboot most of the time becuase the virtualization overhead annoys me.

I have used VM to work on some opensource project OS stuff on winXp with little trouble.

they might have what you need.
http://www.vmware.com/technical-resources/interfaces/
 
Actually no benchmarking, I really don't care about benchmarks. I need to play with the new vail beta and I haven't played with linux for a while. I am going to build some bulldozer and ontario systems early next year, but have a week off between xmas and new years and wanted to get started. I can start with the sw in some VMs and then flip it to physical systems when the hardware is available. Technically I could probably build an ontario system now but I'd rather buy a board through retail than chase down partners.
 
JF-AMD said:
Actually no benchmarking, I really don't care about benchmarks. I need to play with the new vail beta and I haven't played with linux for a while. I am going to build some bulldozer and ontario systems early next year, but have a week off between xmas and new years and wanted to get started. I can start with the sw in some VMs and then flip it to physical systems when the hardware is available. Technically I could probably build an ontario system now but I'd rather buy a board through retail than chase down partners.
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Virtualbox and Vmware both work fine for me and linux runs pretty good on them as does most versions of windows.

Netmachine your putting together???. If you want to send a bulldozer system my way I'd certainly not mind as the x6 is getting bogged down doing big code compiles :laugh:
 
Man, 3 hours of screwing around with ubuntu and suddenly I realize that while I used to know netware inside and out and used to run linux in the old SCO days (when they were a sw company, not lawyers...), I really don't know linux at all. And command lines suck.

Gonna fire up virtualbox and see what that is all about. After years of command lines maybe the GUIs made me lazy.
 
JF-AMD said:
Man, 3 hours of screwing around with ubuntu and suddenly I realize that while I used to know netware inside and out and used to run linux in the old SCO days (when they were a sw company, not lawyers...), I really don't know linux at all. And command lines suck.

Gonna fire up virtualbox and see what that is all about. After years of command lines maybe the GUIs made me lazy.
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virtualbox is great. out of curiosity are you just looking to play around with operating systems ? if so most of them have preconfigured VMware images ready to go. install Vmware in windows and fire it up. Quemu is for linux and I think there are some other options out there as well.

commands lines are so 1975.

















still occassionally useful though.
 
VMware tools are pretty expensive because I am just playing around. I would have no problem buying them if I was doing "real work" but this is more of a curiosity exercise so my software budget is $0.
 
Aye, the VMware Player is free as well and works very well imo. It have some quick setup options as well so you don't actually have to install like Win XP from scratch. At least thats how I remember it. :|
 
VMware Player is definitely the way to go if you are just playing around. It is free and works great.
 
VMware player is loaded, however, I need to migrate to a larger HD now, long story, what a pain.
 
JF-AMD said:
VMware player is loaded, however, I need to migrate to a larger HD now, long story, what a pain.
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why not add another drive and put the VMware HDD on a folder on a new drive ? VMwarePlayer won't car. I have mine setup that way, works fine.
 
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That workstation is set up as a really low power WS because it sits idle 95% of the time. I need it to be on for various reasons. Right now it is at ~50W of total power draw, adding another HD bumps it up by 20% to ~60W.

I have stacks of hard drives on my shelf, so going to a larger drive is the better long term solution. Went out for korean food last night so I didn't get to play with the nic drivers. Trying to do a WHS restore from the server onto a new 1TB drive so that I can pull the 250GB drive that is in the box. Maybe tonight.
 
I think VMware player will do the job. Just need to get the HD situation worked out first. Hopefully I can knock it out in the next few nights, but holiday happy hours seem to be getting in the way. And apparently 2011 marketing plans are due, so that isn't helping the project.
 
I second that. Virtual box does 64-bit guests on 32-bit hosts(i doubt your main os is 32bit tho) as long as the CPU supports it.
However there's a small trick of you want to fire up a Ubuntu guest on a Win7 guest and have compiz effects. After version 3.2.12 they screwed up something and you need to install 2 aditional packages - just write the following in the console:
sudo apt-get install dkms build-essential
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And after that you just need to enable 3d acceleration in VM settings
 
Drive issue is resolved (it was nic drivers, long story). VMware player installed. With 1TB in I can load the vail beta which needed ~160GB to install.
 
i use vmware server. it is free and the web interface is nice. i like controlling all of my VMs remotely so it works well for me.
 
I might do that with the boxes that I am building in 2011 when I get some bulldozer chips to play with. For now I am just going to drop the virtualizaiton onto windows for some quick testing.
 
JF-AMD said:
I might do that with the boxes that I am building in 2011 when I get some bulldozer chips to play with. For now I am just going to drop the virtualizaiton onto windows for some quick testing.
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wow, so you have bulldozer :eek:?????
 
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