Do your Ampere cards' fans stop in idle?

Upgrayedd · Jan 6, 2021

Panchovix said:
Yeah 35°C is too low, what is your GPU model? To search the VBIOS.

FTW3 Ultra. Its in the system specs. I don't really know what searching the VBIOS is going to tell you about Afterburner giving false numbers. PX1 updated the cards firmware at least once that I can recall, may have been twice, not sure.

to OP, Afterburner is wrong currently. Do not rely on afterburner for fan speeds.

Mussels · Jan 7, 2021

afterburner gives all sorts of weird readings and dodgy fan control on my waterforce 3080 and my galax 3090, so at this stage afterburners ampere support should be considered very very beta

fan curve or manual fan control gives me maybe 3 actual settings that apply, 0% 35% 60% and 100% - nothing in between (numbers are made up, but close enough)

Upgrayedd · Jan 7, 2021

Mussels said:
afterburner gives all sorts of weird readings and dodgy fan control on my waterforce 3080 and my galax 3090, so at this stage afterburners ampere support should be considered very very beta

I was kind of figuring it was something with the new cards. I am also not on the newest driver, I am using 460.79. So it may just be Afterburner since PX1 seems to report correct.

Panchovix · Jan 7, 2021

Upgrayedd said:
FTW3 Ultra. Its in the system specs. I don't really know what searching the VBIOS is going to tell you about Afterburner giving false numbers. PX1 updated the cards firmware at least once that I can recall, may have been twice, not sure.

to OP, Afterburner is wrong currently. Do not rely on afterburner for fan speeds.

Oh you're correct, weird thing tho, it has to be an issue with MSI AB I guess, since mine shows it correctly, I'm using latest beta (RTX 3060Ti Gaming OC PRO)

cst1992 · Jan 7, 2021

W1zzard said:
Just to confirm, when the card is idle at 35°C or less it will activate fan stop after a few minutes, 36° idle and up it will not stop the fans?

It just cuts off at 34. It was at 1000 RPM for some time, and the temperature of the card slowly dropped from >60 to 34C and at 34 the fans cut off. The process took 5 minutes.

Upgrayedd · Jan 7, 2021

cst1992 said:
It just cuts off at 34. It was at 1000 RPM for some time, and the temperature of the card slowly dropped from >60 to 34C and at 34 the fans cut off. The process took 5 minutes.

Which driver are you currently using?

cst1992 · Jan 7, 2021

460.89.

Upgrayedd · Jan 7, 2021

cst1992 said:
460.89.

What are the reported fan speeds when unchecking the user defined fan speeds box in the fan tab in the settings of Afterburner. This is how Afterburner should look if you want to use the cards own fan factory fan settings which should have idle fan stop higher than 34c.

I just noticed that GPU-Z is showing the same false results as Afterburner. The only one showing correct results for me currently is PX1.

cst1992 · Jan 7, 2021

What are the false speeds? The tachometer readings shown there are tallying. Are you talking about percentage?

Upgrayedd · Jan 7, 2021

cst1992 said:
What are the false speeds? The tachometer readings shown there are tallying. Are you talking about percentage?

The tach is correct but the percentages are not. That is using PX1 to control the fans. PX1 is saying 23% 750rpm while GPU-Z and Afterburner are showing doubled percentages. Afterburner is allowing fan stop but if I try to use their percentages for a custom curve close to their lower limit it doesn't act right. If I try the 30% like Afterburner says then its really 15% in PX1 and my fans don't support that slow of a speed so they flick on/off.

I guess it doesn't really solve your original issue of your fan stop being triggered at 34c though. I guess just don't trust Afterburner at the moment. To clarify about which of those pics in post #33 is what Afterburner should look like for factory fan settings it is the first pic, (Screenshot 250).

purecain · Jan 7, 2021

My EVGA card has its bios set to cut off the fans at 30%. So we cant stop the behavior without a new bios?

cst1992 · Jan 7, 2021

Upgrayedd said:
PX1 is saying 23% 750rpm while GPU-Z and Afterburner are showing doubled percentages.

Mine is a FE card, it's not having that issue. (Not sure if it's not having that issue BECAUSE it's a FE card).
I've verified the minimum and maximum percentages of the fans, and I could say maybe they're inaccurate to within a few % of the RPM value, but are otherwise correct.
Minimum(card-enforced): 1000 RPM
30%(MSI:A enforced): ~1100 RPM
55%(MSI:A enforced): ~1900 RPM
100%(MSI:A enforced): 3750 RPM(loud!)

Thankfully, NVIDIA have tuned the default BIOS well. Even at a temperature of 76C the fans only go up to 50% at around 1750 RPM, and that is enough to hold the card at 76C in FurMark at a board power draw of 200W.

The only issue I have with the default configuration is the low cutoff temperature of 34C.

cst1992 · Jan 19, 2021

So I have a bit of semi-happy news on this.
I never could get the fan control to work on cutoff at 40C, but I realized when I closed a game and the fans cutoff below 34C at idle, even when I started a new game, they didn't immediately start back up after 34C was crossed. Even at temperatures of 40 or 45, the fans remained at zero. For staying like that for some time(not measured how much) they started up again.

So, I'm kinda happy - as long as the temperature drops below 34 at idle and the fans stop, they should remain stopped for the majority of idle times.

Processor	i7-4790K 4.6GHz @1.29v
Motherboard	ASUS Maximus Hero VII Z97
Cooling	Noctua NH-U14S
Memory	G. Skill Trident X 2x8GB 2133MHz
Video Card(s)	Asus Tuf RTX 3060 V1 FHR (Newegg Shuffle)
Storage	OS 120GB Kingston V300, Samsung 850 Pro 512GB , 3TB Hitachi HDD, 2x5TB Toshiba X300, 500GB M.2 @ x2
Display(s)	Lenovo y27g 1080p 144Hz
Case	Fractal Design Define R4
Audio Device(s)	AKG Q701's w/ O2+ODAC (Sounds a little bright)
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova G2 850w
Mouse	Glorious Model D
Keyboard	Rosewill Full Size. Red Switches. Blue Leds. RK-9100xBRE - Hate this. way to big
Software	Win10
Benchmark Scores	3DMark FireStrike Score : needs updating

System Name	Rainbow Sparkles (Power efficient, <350W gaming load)
Processor	Ryzen R7 5800x3D (Undervolted, 4.45GHz all core)
Motherboard	Asus x570-F (BIOS Modded)
Cooling	Alphacool Apex UV - Alphacool Eisblock XPX Aurora + EK Quantum ARGB 3090 w/ active backplate
Memory	2x32GB DDR4 3600 Corsair Vengeance RGB @3866 C18-22-22-22-42 TRFC704 (1.4V Hynix MJR - SoC 1.15V)
Video Card(s)	Galax RTX 3090 SG 24GB: Underclocked to 1700Mhz 0.750v (375W down to 250W))
Storage	2TB WD SN850 NVME + 1TB Sasmsung 970 Pro NVME + 1TB Intel 6000P NVME USB 3.2
Display(s)	Phillips 32 32M1N5800A (4k144), LG 32" (4K60) \| Gigabyte G32QC (2k165) \| Phillips 328m6fjrmb (2K144)
Case	Fractal Design R6
Audio Device(s)	Logitech G560 \| Corsair Void pro RGB \|Blue Yeti mic
Power Supply	Fractal Ion+ 2 860W (Platinum) (This thing is God-tier. Silent and TINY)
Mouse	Logitech G Pro wireless + Steelseries Prisma XL
Keyboard	Razer Huntsman TE ( Sexy white keycaps)
VR HMD	Oculus Rift S + Quest 2
Software	Windows 11 pro x64 (Yes, it's genuinely a good OS) OpenRGB - ditch the branded bloatware!
Benchmark Scores	Nyooom.

Processor	i7-4790K 4.6GHz @1.29v
Motherboard	ASUS Maximus Hero VII Z97
Cooling	Noctua NH-U14S
Memory	G. Skill Trident X 2x8GB 2133MHz
Video Card(s)	Asus Tuf RTX 3060 V1 FHR (Newegg Shuffle)
Storage	OS 120GB Kingston V300, Samsung 850 Pro 512GB , 3TB Hitachi HDD, 2x5TB Toshiba X300, 500GB M.2 @ x2
Display(s)	Lenovo y27g 1080p 144Hz
Case	Fractal Design Define R4
Audio Device(s)	AKG Q701's w/ O2+ODAC (Sounds a little bright)
Power Supply	EVGA Supernova G2 850w
Mouse	Glorious Model D
Keyboard	Rosewill Full Size. Red Switches. Blue Leds. RK-9100xBRE - Hate this. way to big
Software	Win10
Benchmark Scores	3DMark FireStrike Score : needs updating

Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 5800X
Motherboard	ASUS X570 TUF
Cooling	Cougar Aura WC 240mm
Memory	32 GB 3200Mhz CL15
Video Card(s)	RTX 3080 TUF Shunt modded - RTX 3060Ti EVGA XC (will shunt mod) - RTX 2080Ti Zotac AMP! Extreme

System Name	The Sparing-No-Expense Build
Processor	Ryzen 5 5600X
Motherboard	Asus ROG Strix X570-E Gaming Wifi II
Cooling	Noctua NH-U12S chromax.black
Memory	32GB: 2x16GB Patriot Viper Steel 3600MHz C18
Video Card(s)	NVIDIA RTX 3060Ti Founder's Edition
Storage	500GB 970 Evo Plus NVMe, 2TB Crucial MX500
Display(s)	AOC C24G1 144Hz 24" 1080p Monitor
Case	Lian Li O11 Dynamic EVO White
Power Supply	Seasonic X-650 Gold PSU (SS-650KM3)
Software	Windows 11 Home 64-bit

Do your Ampere cards' fans stop in idle?

Upgrayedd

Mussels

Freshwater Moderator

Upgrayedd

Panchovix

cst1992

Upgrayedd

cst1992

Upgrayedd

Attachments

cst1992

Upgrayedd

purecain

cst1992

cst1992

System Name	ROG 7900X3d By purecain
Processor	AMD Ryzen 7 7900X3D
Motherboard	ASUS Crosshair X670E Hero
Cooling	Noctua NH U12A
Memory	64Gb G.Skill Trident Z5 neo RGB 6400@6000mhz@1.41v
Video Card(s)	Aorus RTX4090 Extreme Waterforce
Storage	990Pro2Tb-1TbSamsung Evo M.2/ 2TbSamsung QVO/ 1TbSamsung Evo780/ 120gbKingston Now
Display(s)	LG 65UN85006LA 65" Smart 4K Ultra HD HDR LED TV
Case	Thermaltake CoreX71 Limited Edition Etched Tempered Glass Door
Audio Device(s)	On board/NIcomplete audio 6
Power Supply	Seasonic FOCUS 1000w 80+
Mouse	M65 RGB Elite
Keyboard	K95 RGB Platinum
Software	Windows11pro
Benchmark Scores	[url=https://valid.x86.fr/gtle1y][img]https://valid.x86.fr/cache/banner/gtle1y-6.png[/img][/url]