First DDR4 GPU

T4C Fantasy · Mar 30, 2018

have a look at a New SKU with a new GP108 "310"
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/3187/geforce-gt-1030

if anyone can get a pic of one and take it apart and take a chear pic of the die & substrate i will add to database.

also validate and upload bios in GPU-Z

http://www.palit.com/palit/vgapro.php?id=2956&lang=en&pn=NEC103000646-1082F&tab=sp
https://www.gigabyte.com/de/Graphics-Card/GV-N1030D4-2GL#kf
http://www.gainward.com.tw/main/vgapro.php?id=1012&lang=en

eidairaman1 · Mar 30, 2018

T4C Fantasy said:
have a look at a New SKU with a new GP108 "310"
https://www.techpowerup.com/gpudb/b5692/palit-gt-1030

if anyone can get a pic of one and take it apart and take a chear pic of the die & substrate i will add to database.

also validate and upload bios in GPU-Z

http://www.palit.com/palit/vgapro.php?id=2956&lang=en&pn=NEC103000646-1082F&tab=sp

I added W1zzard to our convo, I know he gets busy...

T4C Fantasy · Mar 30, 2018

eidairaman1 said:
I added W1zzard to our convo, I know he gets busy...

awesome.

ArbitraryAffection · Mar 30, 2018

Just a question, why would they use DDR4 instead of GDDR5, is it for cost reasons?

Deleted member 67555 · Mar 30, 2018

GDDR4 different?
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/X1950XTX/

ArbitraryAffection · Mar 30, 2018

jmcslob said:
GDDR4 different?
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/X1950XTX/

Yes I think GDDR4 is very different to DDR4.

Sasqui · Mar 30, 2018

ArbitraryAffection said:
Just a question, why would they use DDR4 instead of GDDR5, is it for cost reasons?

Your question got me wondering. I don't have an answer but was surprised at these numbers:

"The next question is what GDDR5 costs. A recent DigiTimes report pegs GDDR5 at about $6.50 for an 8Gb module, though also shows pricing for August onward at $8.50 per module. With old pricing, that’s around $52 cost for an 8GB card, or $68 with new pricing. We do not presently know GDDR5X cost. This puts us at around 3x the cost for HBM2 which, even without factoring in yields or the large GPU die, shows why AMD’s margins are so thin on Vega. We also know that AMD is passing along its HBM2 cost to partners at roughly a 1:1 rate – they’re not upcharging it, which is what typically happens with GDDR. There’s no room to upcharge the HBM2 with Vega’s price target. "

https://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/3032-vega-56-cost-of-hbm2-and-necessity-to-use-it

More interesting is the read about HBM2 and the cost of that.

AlienIsGOD · Mar 30, 2018

ArbitraryAffection said:
Just a question, why would they use DDR4 instead of GDDR5, is it for cost reasons?

that and maybe theres alot of it laying around since it wasnt widely adpoted?

edit: is it DDR4 like desktop ram or GDDR4?

T4C Fantasy · Mar 30, 2018

jmcslob said:
GDDR4 different?
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/X1950XTX/

its definitely not GDDR4, GDDR4 is way more expensive than DDR4 is, plus i dont think they make GDDR4 anymore.
if im correct in this
GDDR memory has better transfer rates but much worse latency
DDR memory is much cheaper

AlienIsGOD · Mar 30, 2018

T4C Fantasy said:
its definitely not GDDR4, GDDR4 is way more expensive than DDR4 is, plus i dont think they make GDDR4 anymore.
if im correct in this
GDDR memory has better transfer rates but much worse latency
DDR memory is much cheaper

thnx for clarification... i read an article just now saying the same things you said as well

silentbogo · Mar 30, 2018

T4C Fantasy said:
if anyone can get a pic of one and take it apart and take a chear pic of the die & substrate i will add to database.

I'm getting a new batch of broken Palit cards next month. If I get one of those - I'll post the PCB pics.
Looks really weird on paper, though... DDR4...

eidairaman1 · Mar 30, 2018

T4C Fantasy said:
its definitely not GDDR4, GDDR4 is way more expensive than DDR4 is, plus i dont think they make GDDR4 anymore.
if im correct in this
GDDR memory has better transfer rates but much worse latency
DDR memory is much cheaper

Yeah GDDR4 was short lived and just a wonky design, so it got skipped for most part

T4C Fantasy · Mar 30, 2018

eidairaman1 said:
Yeah GDDR4 was short lived and just a wonky design, so it got skipped for most part

yeah didn't the GTX200 series with GDDR3 still beat it? lol

eidairaman1 · Mar 30, 2018

T4C Fantasy said:
yeah didn't the GTX200 series with GDDR3 still beat it? lol

Yup, hence it being scrapped, iirc the HD 2900 series and 3800 series AMD GPUs used it.

T4C Fantasy · Mar 30, 2018

eidairaman1 said:
Yup, hence it being scrapped, iirc the HD 2900 series and 3800 series AMD GPUs used it.

HD 2900 XTX

uuuaaaaaa · Mar 30, 2018

jmcslob said:
GDDR4 different?
https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/ATI/X1950XTX/

Damn, this card brings me back! Thank you for posting this and reviving some good memories! :toast:

silentbogo · Mar 30, 2018

@T4C Fantasy , seems like Palit aren't the only ones... Gigabyte and Gainward announced those as well.
Now I want one in my collection :banghead:

https://www.gigabyte.com/de/Graphics-Card/GV-N1030D4-2GL#kf
http://www.gainward.com.tw/main/vgapro.php?id=1012&lang=en

T4C Fantasy · Mar 30, 2018

silentbogo said:
@T4C Fantasy , seems like Palit aren't the only ones... Gigabyte and Gainward announced those as well.
Now I want one in my collection
https://www.gigabyte.com/de/Graphics-Card/GV-N1030D4-2GL#kf
http://www.gainward.com.tw/main/vgapro.php?id=1012&lang=en

gonna work on them now into the database ty!

i updated the database turns out MSI has 4 of them too

T4C Fantasy · Apr 7, 2018

Now just waiting for someone to take clear pics of the gp108-310 chip

Ruru · Apr 9, 2018

eidairaman1 said:
Yup, hence it being scrapped, iirc the HD 2900 series and 3800 series AMD GPUs used it.

X1950XTX, HD 2600 XT, HD 2900 Pro, HD 2900 XT, HD 3870. Not very widely adopted.

jboydgolfer · Apr 9, 2018

T4C Fantasy said:
Now just waiting for someone to take clear pics of the gp108-310 chip

This chip?gp108-310- A-1

T4C Fantasy · Apr 9, 2018

jboydgolfer said:
This chip?gp108-310- A-1

thats my placeholder, i photoshopped what it looks like, but im not satisfied until i get the real chip and work on it

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