Getting NO-Where with HP 8460P

[theFOoL]

after I installed Linux Mint I get Welcome to Grub then nothing on HP 8460P. I've searched but it says something like Grub2 or something. Also at First I tried Dual-Booting with CloudREADY and I get the same Results as the Grub-Menu is Also suppose to Boot first. Please have as Look at my Guide as I believe I'm Doing things right... LINK

Just to Note on my PC this Setup works great

 

[blobster21]

How is your bios ? set to legacy or UEFI ?

 

[theFOoL]

Both. Has options for Legacy and UEFI but when I hit F9 to Boot from USB I see Only Legacy Boot cause UEFI would be Listed. Maybe I should recreate the CR to UEFI MBR in Rufus lol. Be right back to Test...

The OS runs fine in USB though

 

[Sasqui]

The OS runs fine in USB though

SATA mode maybe set wrong. If you format a disk with BIOS set one way and try to boot with another, it usually fails. Sucks when MB's don't always default to AHCI mode.

 

[theFOoL]

OK OK I know now how the UEFI works on the HP Elite Models. To get your OS in UEFI Mode you have to search for the Boot64 File in the USB you made. With that though I'm still unable to Dual-Boot Linux+CloudREAD. It just goes straight to CloudREADY with no Grub Menu but it says "Welcome to Grub"

 

[blobster21]

I wouldn't be surprised if grub was somehow set to boot cloudREADY with no timeout.

Also, there's a procedure to follow in order to dualboot cloudREADY + any linux distros :

https://neverware.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/community/posts/206692848-Howto-dualboot-with-CloudReady

In your case, i would definitely boot from a live linux Mint media and regenerate the grub menu entries.

 

[theFOoL]

How would I do that?

Note I just took out the SSD to Install the OS's and both worked great. The Grub-Menu showed so to my guess it's the Dumb BIOS

I pretty did the same thing as Linked. I'm fine with just Either OS just wish I could Duel-Boot

 

[blobster21]

When you unplug the drive containing CloudREADY and let your computer boot on the other drive, what do you see in the linux mint grub menu ? you can press E and review the menu entries. If both OSes are there, then grub OS prober did its part of the job to feed the grub menu and the problem lies elsewhere.

In which order did you install the OSes ? CloudREADY first and then linux mint, or the other way ?

When both drives are installed, i would be curious to know which grub bootloader take the lead, the one provided by CloudREADY, or the other.

 

[theFOoL]

Yes CR first then I resized it on the Live Linux Mint with GParted then installed Mint. The weird thing is on my computer the Grub Menu still comes up letting me choose CR or Mint. Somewhere within the BIOS of the 8460P is preventing the Grub Menu to show

 

[blobster21]

Would you mind running this little bash script ( http://bootinfoscript.sourceforge.net/ ) to collect informations about your bootloader, and post the output here ?

 

[theFOoL]

Even the Grub in MINT doesn't even appear upon boot and it's installed via legacy

Boot Info Script 0.61 [1 April 2012]


============================= Boot Info Summary: ===============================

=> Grub2 (v1.99) is installed in the MBR of /dev/sda and looks at sector 1 of
the same hard drive for core.img. core.img is at this location and looks
in partition 97 for .

sda1: __________________________________________________________________________

File system: ext4
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:
Operating System: Linux Mint 18.2 Sonya
Boot files: /boot/grub/grub.cfg /etc/fstab

sda2: __________________________________________________________________________

File system: Extended Partition
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:

sda5: __________________________________________________________________________

File system: swap
Boot sector type: -
Boot sector info:

============================ Drive/Partition Info: =============================

Drive: sda _____________________________________________________________________
Disk /dev/sda: 59.6 GiB, 64023257088 bytes, 125045424 sectors
Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
Disklabel type: dos

Partition Boot Start Sector End Sector # of Sectors Id System

/dev/sda1 * 2,048 108,433,407 108,431,360 83 Linux
/dev/sda2 108,435,454 125,044,735 16,609,282 5 Extended
/dev/sda5 108,435,456 125,044,735 16,609,280 82 Linux swap / Solaris


"blkid" output: ________________________________________________________________

Device UUID TYPE LABEL

/dev/sda1 2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98 ext4
/dev/sda5 8e067e41-5eb2-4228-a944-562e2727dd2d swap

================================ Mount points: =================================

Device Mount_Point Type Options

/dev/sda1 / ext4 (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro,data=ordered)


=========================== sda1/boot/grub/grub.cfg: ===========================

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#
# DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE
#
# It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates
# from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub
#

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/00_header ###
if [ -s $prefix/grubenv ]; then
set have_grubenv=true
load_env
fi
if [ "${next_entry}" ] ; then
set default="${next_entry}"
set next_entry=
save_env next_entry
set boot_once=true
else
set default="0"
fi

if [ x"${feature_menuentry_id}" = xy ]; then
menuentry_id_option="--id"
else
menuentry_id_option=""
fi

export menuentry_id_option

if [ "${prev_saved_entry}" ]; then
set saved_entry="${prev_saved_entry}"
save_env saved_entry
set prev_saved_entry=
save_env prev_saved_entry
set boot_once=true
fi

function savedefault {
if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then
saved_entry="${chosen}"
save_env saved_entry
fi
}
function recordfail {
set recordfail=1
if [ -n "${have_grubenv}" ]; then if [ -z "${boot_once}" ]; then save_env recordfail; fi; fi
}
function load_video {
if [ x$feature_all_video_module = xy ]; then
insmod all_video
else
insmod efi_gop
insmod efi_uga
insmod ieee1275_fb
insmod vbe
insmod vga
insmod video_bochs
insmod video_cirrus
fi
}

if [ x$feature_default_font_path = xy ] ; then
font=unicode
else
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1 2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98
fi
font="/usr/share/grub/unicode.pf2"
fi

if loadfont $font ; then
set gfxmode=auto
load_video
insmod gfxterm
set locale_dir=$prefix/locale
set lang=en_US
insmod gettext
fi
terminal_output gfxterm
if [ "${recordfail}" = 1 ] ; then
set timeout=30
else
if [ x$feature_timeout_style = xy ] ; then
set timeout_style=hidden
set timeout=0
# Fallback hidden-timeout code in case the timeout_style feature is
# unavailable.
elif sleep --interruptible 0 ; then
set timeout=0
fi
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/00_header ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###
set menu_color_normal=white/black
set menu_color_highlight=black/light-gray
### END /etc/grub.d/05_debian_theme ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/06_mint_theme ###
set menu_color_normal=white/black
set menu_color_highlight=white/light-gray
### END /etc/grub.d/06_mint_theme ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###
function gfxmode {
set gfxpayload="${1}"
if [ "${1}" = "keep" ]; then
set vt_handoff=vt.handoff=7
else
set vt_handoff=
fi
}
if [ "${recordfail}" != 1 ]; then
if [ -e ${prefix}/gfxblacklist.txt ]; then
if hwmatch ${prefix}/gfxblacklist.txt 3; then
if [ ${match} = 0 ]; then
set linux_gfx_mode=keep
else
set linux_gfx_mode=text
fi
else
set linux_gfx_mode=text
fi
else
set linux_gfx_mode=keep
fi
else
set linux_gfx_mode=text
fi
export linux_gfx_mode
menuentry 'Linux Mint 18.2 Cinnamon 64-bit' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-simple-2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98' {
recordfail
load_video
gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
insmod gzio
if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1 2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98
fi
linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.8.0-53-generic root=UUID=2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98 ro quiet splash $vt_handoff
initrd /boot/initrd.img-4.8.0-53-generic
}
submenu 'Advanced options for Linux Mint 18.2 Cinnamon 64-bit' $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-advanced-2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98' {
menuentry 'Linux Mint 18.2 Cinnamon 64-bit, with Linux 4.8.0-53-generic' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.8.0-53-generic-advanced-2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98' {
recordfail
load_video
gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
insmod gzio
if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1 2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98
fi
echo 'Loading Linux 4.8.0-53-generic ...'
linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.8.0-53-generic root=UUID=2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98 ro quiet splash $vt_handoff
echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd /boot/initrd.img-4.8.0-53-generic
}
menuentry 'Linux Mint 18.2 Cinnamon 64-bit, with Linux 4.8.0-53-generic (upstart)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.8.0-53-generic-init-upstart-2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98' {
recordfail
load_video
gfxmode $linux_gfx_mode
insmod gzio
if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1 2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98
fi
echo 'Loading Linux 4.8.0-53-generic ...'
linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.8.0-53-generic root=UUID=2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98 ro quiet splash $vt_handoff init=/sbin/upstart
echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd /boot/initrd.img-4.8.0-53-generic
}
menuentry 'Linux Mint 18.2 Cinnamon 64-bit, with Linux 4.8.0-53-generic (recovery mode)' --class ubuntu --class gnu-linux --class gnu --class os $menuentry_id_option 'gnulinux-4.8.0-53-generic-recovery-2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98' {
recordfail
load_video
insmod gzio
if [ x$grub_platform = xxen ]; then insmod xzio; insmod lzopio; fi
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1 2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98
fi
echo 'Loading Linux 4.8.0-53-generic ...'
linux /boot/vmlinuz-4.8.0-53-generic root=UUID=2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98 ro recovery nomodeset
echo 'Loading initial ramdisk ...'
initrd /boot/initrd.img-4.8.0-53-generic
}
}

### END /etc/grub.d/10_linux ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/10_lupin ###
### END /etc/grub.d/10_lupin ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###

### END /etc/grub.d/20_linux_xen ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###
menuentry 'Memory test (memtest86+)' {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1 2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98
fi
knetbsd /boot/memtest86+.elf
}
menuentry 'Memory test (memtest86+, serial console 115200)' {
insmod part_msdos
insmod ext2
set root='hd0,msdos1'
if [ x$feature_platform_search_hint = xy ]; then
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root --hint-bios=hd0,msdos1 --hint-efi=hd0,msdos1 --hint-baremetal=ahci0,msdos1 2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98
else
search --no-floppy --fs-uuid --set=root 2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98
fi
linux16 /boot/memtest86+.bin console=ttyS0,115200n8
}
### END /etc/grub.d/20_memtest86+ ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###
### END /etc/grub.d/30_os-prober ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/30_uefi-firmware ###
### END /etc/grub.d/30_uefi-firmware ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###
# This file provides an easy way to add custom menu entries. Simply type the
# menu entries you want to add after this comment. Be careful not to change
# the 'exec tail' line above.
### END /etc/grub.d/40_custom ###

### BEGIN /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
if [ -f ${config_directory}/custom.cfg ]; then
source ${config_directory}/custom.cfg
elif [ -z "${config_directory}" -a -f $prefix/custom.cfg ]; then
source $prefix/custom.cfg;
fi
### END /etc/grub.d/41_custom ###
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

=============================== sda1/etc/fstab: ================================

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'blkid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
# / was on /dev/sda1 during installation
UUID=2fcb57cc-8cb5-4209-8246-5db8dc474c98 / ext4 errors=remount-ro 0 1
# swap was on /dev/sda5 during installation
UUID=8e067e41-5eb2-4228-a944-562e2727dd2d none swap sw 0 0
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

=================== sda1: Location of files loaded by Grub: ====================

GiB - GB File Fragment(s)


=============================== StdErr Messages: ===============================

cat: /tmp/BootInfo-pAu4rZkW/Tmp_Log: No such file or directory

 

[blobster21]

I expected the cloudREADY drive to be seen as /dev/sdb somewhere in this report, unless you decided to unplug it because it would prevent the computer from booting Linux mint.

Could you plug both hardrives side by side, then boot the computer on the cloudREADY drive, and run the bootinfo script again from within cloudREADY ?

My guess is both drives have a slightly different bootloader/boot menu installed, and the boot sequence vary solely when one drive is physically attached while the other is not.

Running the bootinfo script once again could provide more informations on who does what.

 

[theFOoL]

I will run the info in CR but idk how that will go. Also what you by two drives? Only using one...

 

[blobster21]

Really ? only one hard drive ? i thought you had both OSes installed on different physical drives.....especially after you wrote this :

I just took out the SSD to Install the OS's and both worked great

How comes the grub menu doesn't show all the available OSes then.....

My own guess is : Linux mint may have been installed using the legacy boot features, while cloudREADY was installed with the EFI features provided by your installation media. In the end, you can't get a fully working dualboot because the bootloader is unable to probe all available OSes. (note : i ran into that kind of problem while attempting to dualboot a brand new Asus laptop, which came pre-equipped with a WIn10 EFI installation. I couldn't get the computer to dualboot on Ubuntu-Mate after installing it side by side, eventhough i switched the bios to UEFI+CSM. I had to reinstall WIN10 from scratch in legacy mode, then repaired the grub bootloader from a live media, redetecting all available OSes, after which both OSes could be seen and booted from the grub menu)

 

[theFOoL]

OK so I'm going to try THIS if All else fails. Have CR installed on UEFI Mode so we'll just see

 

[Solaris17]

UEFI on the 8460p is not real UEFI. It doesnt even support bit locker. the modules integrated into the bios only support UEFI features like secure boot and the improved GPU interfacing. The ROM doesnt have the space capable of a full UEFI stack.

Try disabling it completely not in auto disable UEFI and force CSM.

 

[theFOoL]

There is no CSM and I just gave up and installing CloudREADY which many should at least try

 

[Solaris17]

There is no CSM and I just gave up and installing CloudREADY which many should at least try

There is CSM I deploy these units. Hundreds of them.

 

[theFOoL]

No where in BIOS do I see CSM

 

[blobster21]

case closed (thanks to HP for making this so damn hard)

 

[theFOoL]

Hi guys,

Upon my searching I came across THIS and I just need to buy the Express Card/Cable as I already have the 16x Connector

Meh just going to buy the whole thing... wish me Luck

 

[blobster21]

Sounds like a lot of fun ! i like the idea, but it's up to you to discover if the hardware they provide will live to the promise they sell

Keep us posted, i wouldn't mind trying one of those gpu dock through the express card port of my old Fujitsu esprimo mobile D9510, just for the fun of running my old radeon HD5450 (and play Darwinia and the likes !)

 

[theFOoL]

I will but does it have a Express-Card Slot or you'll have to Replace the WiFi as I tried to do but the GPU just never displayed or even the On-Board so this Express-Card eGPU. Probably due to the BIOS

 

[blobster21]

I have an express card slot (accepting both 34mm and 54mm cards). But i just realized the GPU card output will need to be plugged into an external monitor, and it's a show stopper for me (at first i thought i would play my games on my laptop screen without needing any external/additional screen)

 

[theFOoL]

Hmm.... I don't think so but if it's true then o well. Now if you replace the wifi then it'd connect through laptop screen. We'll find out once I buy it