GT 1050 TI randomly freeze only while gaming

[hoayuko]

Hi, I need help for diagnose my PC problem.

First, it had no problem while doing any browsing, email or in idle for hours. Watching 1080p movie is also not a problem.

My specs is :
CPU G4560
16GB RAM
Inno3D 1050 TI 4GB

Second, if I do any gaming, either AAA games like Dark Souls, Borderlands 3, or anything indie, it will freeze around 1 mins after playing with random blank colour (white, blue, red, black, etc)

Any idea whats wrong ? I suspect either the GPU or bad PSU because of PCIE Voltage is so low at 9.3 V while normally 12V, but I'm not sure. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks a lot.

 

[Rei]

Let's put this in numbering question to make it easier for you to answer.

1) Is your OS & GPU driver up-to-date?
2) What is your OS?
3) What is your GPU driver's version & driver type (standard or DCH)?
4) Is you cable tightly connected?
5) Is your graphics card firmly placed?
6) While I currently doubt bad PSU could cause this but since you mentioned PSU, What is your PSU brand & rating?

 

[Ruru]

Let's put this in numbering question to make it easier for you to answer.

1) Is your OS & GPU driver up-to-date?
2) What is your OS?
3) What is your GPU driver's version & driver type (standard or DCH)?

Seems that OP has Win 10 Pro with november 2019 update and Nvidia 446.14 drivers as seen on the provided txt-file. So definetly not up-to-date.

 

[hoayuko]

Let's put this in numbering question to make it easier for you to answer.

1) Is your OS & GPU up to date ?
2) What is your OS?
3) What is your GPU driver's version & driver type (standard or DCH)?
4) Is you cable tightly connected?
5) Is your graphics card firmly placed?
6) While I currently doubt bad PSU could cause this but since you mentioned PSU, What is your PSU brand & rating?

1. Yes. Already up to date as I write this post
2. Windows 10 Profesional 64-bit
3. I think standard version. I update using Geforce Experience
4. Yes, it as tight as it can be
5. Yes, I opened my case, clean any dust and checked my GPU physical condition
6. It 500w unbranded PSU. While I would loved branded PSU, in my country (Indonesia) branded PSU is an urban legend. Usually this kind of PSU is not a problem.

 

[Rei]

Seems that OP has Win 10 Pro with november 2019 update and Nvidia 446.14 drivers as seen on the provided txt-file. So definetly not up-to-date.

Good call... I haven't read the text file yet when I wrote my previous post.

@hoayuko Try updating those first & be sure to get the standard driver type from Nvidia's website.

 

[FreedomEclipse]

Maybe it's overheating

 

[Countryside]

Like mentioned in previous post start by updating your sofware and then test it again. The power draw on that hardware is very low so i doubt its psu but anything is possible. Also it would be nice to know what psu and motherboard you are using.

 

[Ruru]

Like mentioned in previous post start by updating your sofware and then test it again. The power draw on that hardware is very low so i doubt its psu but anything is possible. Also it would be nice to know what psu and motherboard you are using.

Seems to be this board.

H110M-E/M.2｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

www.asus.com

 

[Countryside]

Seems to be this board.

H110M-E/M.2｜Motherboards｜ASUS Global

www.asus.com

This happens when i scroll the text file too quickly thx.

It seem that the bios date on that mobo is 2015 and the latest is from 2019 just pointing it out.

 

[looniam]

are you using a $20 PSU?

i'd try a prime95 run for 15 minutes to stress the cpu only. then use valley/heaven/what ever to stress just the gpu. you can also pull the card and game on the IGP ( i know a step down) but some of this might help sort that it would be the pci-e slot (9V) and not PSU or 1050ti being flaky.

though i did notice the 43c cpu temp in the text file; whats it like at load? (during prime95?)

just tossing out ideas.

 

[AusWolf]

The low PCI-e slot voltage has nothing to do with it. My 1050 Ti, heck, even my 1030's PCI-e voltage fluctuates like crazy when I play games (to support power draw in terms of Amps, I guess). It's never constant with these cards.

I could think of a bad PSU, but like it was said before, your system draws so low power that makes it doubtful. I would still try another PSU nevertheless.

Try updating Windows and your drivers to the newest versions. If that doesn't help, then my other idea is a bad video card. Have you got access to any other VGA?

 

[Rei]

1. Yes. Already up to date as I write this post
2. Windows 10 Profesional 64-bit
3. I think standard version. I update using Geforce Experience
4. Yes, it as tight as it can be
5. Yes, I opened my case, clean any dust and checked my GPU physical condition
6. It 500w unbranded PSU. While I would loved branded PSU, in my country (Indonesia) branded PSU is an urban legend. Usually this kind of PSU is not a problem.

I guess that leaves number 3) & 6) still in question.

Can you post a screenshot of your Nvidia's System Information panel. It should look something like this:

If you have the latest driver, it should have the same version (460.79) but the Driver Type should say "Standard" not "DCH".

As for your PSU, it's back on the table since you specified "unbranded" PSU. Bad PSU could cause something like the issue you have since your hardware at full load can hit your PSU's limit. Your PSU says it has 500 Watts but that is only peak wattage. Unbranded PSU tends to have low continuous wattage which is more important for power stability management than peak wattage so if your unbranded PSU can't supply stable amount of power, it can damage your GPU and/or other hardware.
You should invest in well known PSU brand. For a brand that should be "good enough" for you without those high pricing, try SeaSonic, EVGA or Enermax. Also make sure that it is also at least 500 Watts with 80+ Bronze rating. You should be able to find them at your national online shop such as Shopee, Tokopedia or Lazada & they shouldn't cost more than 600,000 Rupiah.

 

[hoayuko]

Good call... I haven't read the text file yet when I wrote my previous post.

@hoayuko Try updating those first & be sure to get the standard driver type from Nvidia's website.

Like mentioned in previous post start by updating your sofware and then test it again. The power draw on that hardware is very low so i doubt its psu but anything is possible. Also it would be nice to know what psu and motherboard you are using.

Yes, I already updated Windows, Chipset, LAN, BIOS, IGP driver, and Discrete driver too. In this post, I attached my CPUZ report.

are you using a $20 PSU?

i'd try a prime95 run for 15 minutes to stress the cpu only. then use valley/heaven/what ever to stress just the gpu. you can also pull the card and game on the IGP ( i know a step down) but some of this might help sort that it would be the pci-e slot (9V) and not PSU or 1050ti being flaky.

though i did notice the 43c cpu temp in the text file; whats it like at load? (during prime95?)

just tossing out ideas.

Yes, it was kinda like that PSU. Problem is, it is very hard to look 80++ PSU in my country. For years I had to used this kind of PSU, they around 70-ish efficiency, China made without any brand. I had switched to IGP HDMI and VGA output (my monitor had those 2 slots), both had no problem. I can do light gaming without issue as long as my onboard graphic can handle. The temperature is normally like that. I lived in tropical country, where the ambience temperature is around 27 to 33 in Celcius. That 43 is fresh boot idle temperature, see below for my brother CPU temperature. Will try your suggestion tomorrow to stress my CPU and GPU.

The low PCI-e slot voltage has nothing to do with it. My 1050 Ti, heck, even my 1030's PCI-e voltage fluctuates like crazy when I play games (to support power draw in terms of Amps, I guess). It's never constant with these cards.

I could think of a bad PSU, but like it was said before, your system draws so low power that makes it doubtful. I would still try another PSU nevertheless.

Try updating Windows and your drivers to the newest versions. If that doesn't help, then my other idea is a bad video card. Have you got access to any other VGA?

I'm just referencing from my brother PC & GPU. I will try to use his GPU and PSU in a few days to see if it really my GPU that is bad. Here is my brother PC while on idle

I guess that leaves number 3) & 6) still in question.

Can you post a screenshot of your Nvidia's System Information panel. It should look something like this:

View attachment 179391

If you have the latest driver, it should have the same version (460.79) but the Driver Type should say "Standard" not "DCH".

As for your PSU, it's back on the table since you specified "unbranded" PSU. Bad PSU could cause something like the issue you have since your hardware at full load can hit your PSU's limit. Your PSU says it has 500 Watts but that is only peak wattage. Unbranded PSU tends to have low continuous wattage which is more important for power stability management than peak wattage so if your unbranded PSU can't supply stable amount of power, it can damage your GPU and/or other hardware.
You should invest in well known PSU brand. For a brand that should be "good enough" for you without those high pricing, try SeaSonic, EVGA or Enermax. Also make sure that it is also at least 500 Watts with 80+ Bronze rating. You should be able to find them at your national online shop such as Shopee, Tokopedia or Lazada & they shouldn't cost more than 600,000 Rupiah.

Yes, I know PSU is important. Thanks for your suggestion. I think I will buy new one, regardless if it is faulty or not. What wattage did you suggest for 80+ bronze one ?

 

[Rei]

Yes, I know PSU is important. Thanks for your suggestion. I think I will buy new one, regardless if it is faulty or not. What wattage did you suggest for 80+ bronze one ?

I recommend getting 550 Watts for increased power efficiency & more head-room for additional hardware. But if you are on a tighter budget, 500 Watts should do fine for your PC.

Also, your screenshot says that you have DCH driver type which may be the reason why your GPU is freezing out. Here is a link to download the standard driver type:

Driver Details | NVIDIA

Download the <dd~LanguageName> <dd~Name> for <dd~OSName> systems. Released <dd~ReleaseDateTime>

www.nvidia.com

Uninstall your previous Nvidia driver, disconnect from the internet to prevent auto-update from downloading incorrect driver, then install the driver from the link that I provided, then restart your PC. After that, check if you still have freezing issues.

As for the what & the why of DCH Vs Standard driver type, here is another screenshot detailing the difference:

Let us know if it works or not...

 

[Countryside]

For the new psu i would recommend the Seasonic S12III 550, its a budget friendly option

 

[AusWolf]

I'm just referencing from my brother PC & GPU. I will try to use his GPU and PSU in a few days to see if it really my GPU that is bad. Here is my brother PC while on idle

Don't worry about it. My 1050 Ti is sitting at 8.6-8.9 V PCI-e slot voltage as I'm typing this message, but it can drop as low as 1.8 V when I'm playing games. Cards that do not have external power connectors and thus draw all their power from the PCI-e slot work differently in terms of slot voltage. That is not the culprit of your stability issues. I'm suspecting a faulty (or inadequate) PSU, or a faulty GPU.

 

[looniam]

ive only glanced at you and other posts but:

China made without any brand.

bingo! i understand - try to get better. please?

you're better off with some 150 watt pico PSU (seriously!!)


EDIT you need no more than 150 watts for a G4560 and 1050ti.
yes, light bulb power

 

[hoayuko]

I recommend getting 550 Watts for increased power efficiency & more head-room for additional hardware. But if you are on a tighter budget, 500 Watts should do fine for your PC.

Also, your screenshot says that you have DCH driver type which may be the reason why your GPU is freezing out. Here is a link to download the standard driver type:

Driver Details | NVIDIA

Download the <dd~LanguageName> <dd~Name> for <dd~OSName> systems. Released <dd~ReleaseDateTime>

www.nvidia.com

Uninstall your previous Nvidia driver, disconnect from the internet to prevent auto-update from downloading incorrect driver, then install the driver from the link that I provided, then restart your PC. After that, check if you still have freezing issues.

As for the what & the why of DCH Vs Standard driver type, here is another screenshot detailing the difference:

View attachment 179421

Let us know if it works or not...

For the new psu i would recommend the Seasonic S12III 550, its a budget friendly option

Don't worry about it. My 1050 Ti is sitting at 8.6-8.9 V PCI-e slot voltage as I'm typing this message, but it can drop as low as 1.8 V when I'm playing games. Cards that do not have external power connectors and thus draw all their power from the PCI-e slot work differently in terms of slot voltage. That is not the culprit of your stability issues. I'm suspecting a faulty (or inadequate) PSU, or a faulty GPU.

ive only glanced at you and other posts but:



bingo! i understand - try to get better. please?

you're better off with some 150 watt pico PSU (seriously!!)


EDIT you need no more than 150 watts for a G4560 and 1050ti.
yes, light bulb power

Hi guys, yesterday I bought new PSU and after I changed it, it work flawlessly. No freezing for 3 hours, and I can concluded that it is because of bad PSU. Here is what I bought.

ENERMAX 500W 80+ ENP500AGT

https://tokopedia.link/ntAb9lN0dcb

Thanks of for all of your help ! Have a nice day

TL; DR : Graphic card GTX 1050 TI freezing because of bad power supply