Help With Choosing PSU

[8tyone]

Respected Gurus I would like your valuable opinion/recommendations, in choosing a PSU from a list that I have curated, these PSUs are available in my area and are within my budget.

My system specs would most probably like this:
*Arctic Freezer 34 eSports DUO class cooler
*i7 12700F
*MSI Mag b660m Mortar
*2x 16GB Cl16 Crucial Ballistix 3600MHz
*5x SATA3 7200rpm HDDs
*1x DVD-RW Drive
*2x 140mm fan
*4x 120mm fan
*3x 60mm fan
*1x m2 SSD
*1x each of USB Gaming Keyboard and Mice
*RTX 3060 Ti

I have already bought a Cyberpower 2200 UPS and calculated PSU power @ extreme.outervision.com, which recommends me a 688w psu, I am leaning more towards a 750w though. Ofc you are free to do your own calculations.

I donot care about rgb or non modular or modular. I just care about good enough performance and price.

Here is my psu list:
*Antec HCG750 SMPS 750 Watt 80 Plus Bronze
*Antec CSK 750H Semi Modular 750 Watt 80 PLUS Bronze
*SilverStone VIVA 750W 80 Plus Bronze Power Supply (SST-VA750-B)
*DeepCool PK-D Series PK750D Power Supply (R-PK750D-FA0B-UK)
*DeepCool PM750D Series Non-Modular 80 PLUS Gold Power Supply R-PM750D-FA0B-UK
*Ant Esports FP750B 80+ 750W Bronze Force Series
*Thermaltake Smart BX1 750W SMPS - 750 Watt 80 Plus Bronze
*GAMDIAS KRATOS M1-750B BRONZE
*EVGA 750 BR 750Watt 80+ Bronze
*Thermaltake Smart BX1 RGB 750W SMPS 750 Watt 80 Plus Bronze
*Msi MPG A750GF SMPS - 750 Watt 80 Plus Gold

Thank you, so much.

 

[maxfly]

You'll do far better giving us a vendor link your planning on buying from and a budget.
There's only one unit from that list I might consider suggesting (the MSI). It's nothing special and there are much, much, better options out there. The core of your system relies most heavily on the psu. My advice, don't settle. Find something top notch that will serve you well through several builds.

 

[P4-630]

A PSU with 10~12 years warranty, no less.

 

[The King]

I was going to Post a thread about which is better between the
Msi MPG A750GF 750 Watt 80 Plus Gold for 5696 and the Adata XPG Core reactor 650W for 5910

From the list you posted and the price the MSI 750W Gold is the one I would go with but the XPG core Reactor 650W Gold would be a better buy.
Unfortunately that is out of stock currently.

ITs too bad SuperFlower does not have a better presence locally and EVGA who recently launched here have got no clue what they doing!

 

[anfazi54]

Yeah, go for 750w

 

[8tyone]

You'll do far better giving us a vendor link your planning on buying from and a budget.
There's only one unit from that list I might consider suggesting (the MSI). It's nothing special and there are much, much, better options out there. The core of your system relies most heavily on the psu. My advice, don't settle. Find something top notch that will serve you well through several builds.

I don't have a vendor link but I go to pcpricetracker.in and then choose "Power Supply", choose price from low to high and go on until I reach my budget. My aim for the psu was to have something that's better than the current one (Corsair VS600) I had and to satisfy the wattage given by psu calculators nothing more, as such I do not have much high budget, which is just <INR 5800.
If you could help me choose within these units or ones on pcpricetracker I would be really indebted to you. Most cheap plus psus don't have reviews anymore.

I was going to Post a thread about which is better between the
Msi MPG A750GF 750 Watt 80 Plus Gold for 5696 and the Adata XPG Core reactor 650W for 5910
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From the list you posted and the price the MSI 750W Gold is the one I would go with but the XPG core Reactor 650W Gold would be a better buy.
Unfortunately that is out of stock currently.

Could you point me to good review of the MSI one and What do you think about the Antec HCG Bronze wouldnt that be better than MSI and what about DeepCool DeepCool PM750D Series Non-Modular 80 PLUS Gold Power Supply, its gold rated and its really cheap and I am a very cheap person

 

[80-watt Hamster]

You'll probably be OK at 650W, but sticking with 750W, maybe try to stretch for an XPG Pylon.

 

[8tyone]

You'll probably be OK at 650W, but sticking with 750W, maybe try to stretch for an XPG Pylon.

Are telling me to stick with my current psu Corsair VS600?
Edit I mean would that be ok too?
The xpg pylon techpowerup review looks good, is cheap within my budget, warranty is low. Pylon vs Antec HCG Bronze vs Msi MPG A750GF, which one would you rather have?

 

[dirtyferret]

A PSU with 10~12 years warranty, no less.

I know you are using the warranty as a way to validate the quality of a PSU but on the actual "warranty" side of things most warranties are pointless outside of North America & western Europe. The reason being is if there is any issue with the PSU you may need to send out of country for an RMA. For example with EVGA, if you are in India you will need to send the PSU to Taiwan. I just shipped a 3lb 14x10x10 box to Shenzen last week from just outside of NYC and it cost me $400 via DHL so shipping rates are currently very high. So if anyone is purchasing a PSU based on the warranty and lives outside the areas I mentioned above they need to contact the brands warranty department and sees how the RMA process works. Who pays for shipping, how long does the typical RMA process work, and where is the nearest location to ship to.

Are telling me to stick with my current psu Corsair VS600?
Edit I mean would that be ok too?

the VS line is more intended for office/home PCs not gaming PCs. For gaming, it's an ok "break glass in case of emergency" PSU until the one you just ordered online gets delivered.

Yeah, go for 750w

 

[8tyone]

Why? Should I go lower or higher than 750w? Please share its important. I would be happy to go lower, cheaper price, yes.

 

[dirtyferret]

Why? Should I go lower or higher than 750w? Please share its important. I would be happy to go lower, cheaper price, yes.

750w is menaingless, it tells me nothing about a power supply other than how that brand wants to market that unit

 

[8tyone]

750w is menaingless, it tells me nothing about a power supply other than how that brand wants to market that unit

What should I look for?
Teach me master!

 

[Bill_Bright]

I have already bought a Cyberpower 2200 UPS and calculated PSU power @ extreme.outervision.com, which recommends me a 688w psu, I am leaning more towards a 750w though.

I use and recommend that same calculator - but only that calculator because it is the most flexible, most conservative (very important, IMO), and has a ready staff to keep it updated.

However, I typically recommend setting CPU Utilization to 100% and Computer Utilization Time to 16 hours per day. Those two setting changes pad the results just a little bit more to compensate for component aging over time, and to give you a little extra wiggle room in case you want to, for example, add more RAM or upgrade your graphics card in the next couple years. If you are certain you will never be upgrading and needing more power, then your current results are fine.

I have never heard of Ant Esports or Gamdias Kratos so I cannot comment other than to say I would look elsewhere. DeepCool also would not be on my short list.

A long warranty is not really an indication of quality however it is an indication of the confidence a company has in their product's longevity. And that, IMO, is a good thing. At least one factor to consider when narrowing down the field.

80 PLUS certification is an indication of PSU efficiency. But it is important to note that better efficiency does NOT indicate a better, more reliable, or more stable supply. 80 PLUS does not, as example, indication anything about voltage tolerances and regulation (maintaining output within the allowed ±5% deviations). 80 PLUS also does not suggest better ripple suppression or hold-up times, among other specs.

Still, I would look to ensure a supply is 80 PLUS certified however, I tend to go for "Gold" over the lessor Silver, Bronze or plain (White) certification. IMO, the higher certifications, Platinum and Titanium are not worth their extra costs because any savings in energy costs would take years to make up the difference in purchase costs.

Are telling me to stick with my current psu Corsair VS600?
Why? Should I go lower or higher than 750w?

Nobody suggested you stick with your Corsair.

You can go a little lower as the eXtreme PSU calculator noted but then it leaves you little to no wiggle room for future possible upgrades. So I agree that a 750W supply, preferably "Gold" from a reliable maker (I prefer Seasonic and EVGA) is the way to go.

You can always go bigger, but that may hurt your budget.

750W is NOT meaningless - unless that is the only thing we know about the PSU. This is why knowing the specific model number is important.

 

[dirtyferret]

Antec HCG Bronze vs Msi MPG A750GF

both are proven platforms from reliable OEMs. The MSI is more modern of the two platforms if I recall but not really latest and greatest. Antec has the better front end of the two brands and the longer history of bringing solid units to the market place. That said I would personally go with the MPG unit's more modern platform.

750W is NOT meaningless - unless that is the only thing we know about the PSU. This is why knowing the specific model number is important.

it is when the original post I was replying to stated "Yeah, go for 750w"

 

[8tyone]

both are proven platforms from reliable OEMs. The MSI is more modern of the two platforms if I recall but not really latest and greatest. Antec has the better front end of the two brands and the longer history of bringing solid units to the market place. That said I would personally go with the MPG unit's more modern platform.

What about the xpg pylon? pylon vs antec vs msi. Should I go lower than 750w?

 

[dirtyferret]

What should I look for?
Teach me master!

you should look for professional reviews that test the PSU under conditions you would need it to perform at as well as all the marketing points the brand claims it will perform at it. The PSU needs to stay within appropriate spec as not to do any damage to your PC parts.

What about the xpg pylon? pylon vs antec vs msi. Should I go lower than 750w?

1. like Bill said above, use a calculator to see how much power you need
2. research what PSU will be able to perform well for your needs
3. if you can not afford a PSU that will meet your needs than your needs don't match your budget and should be adjusted. If you can afford $900+ in PC parts yet your budget for a PSU is $50 than your PC parts budget needs to be adjusted to increase your PSU budget not "let me get a cheaper higher watt PSU"

 

[The King]

Could you point me to good review of the MSI one and What do you think about the Antec HCG Bronze wouldnt that be better than MSI and what about DeepCool DeepCool PM750D Series Non-Modular 80 PLUS Gold Power Supply, its gold rated and its really cheap and I am a very cheap person

I am in the market for 2 Power Supplies for 2 builds that I am busy with so I already looked at all the PSUs you had on your list.
The Deepcool is very cheap for a gold rated PSU. Not many reviews sadly so decided against it.

The only complete review I could find on the MSI 750W is on TH.

MSI MPG A750GF Power Supply Review

MSI did a far better job than Gigabyte in its PSU products, but is this enough?

www.tomshardware.com

Many of the people replying in this thread are not aware of local pricing.
The price 5.6K on the MSi 750W GOLD is actually lower than the MSi 650W Gold 5.9K for some reason on the same website.

Once the Monsoon sale is over you won't get that PSU for that price again. Its usually north of 7K at all other retailers.

So its basically the cheapest 750W Gold on the market with a decent review.

 

[dirtyferret]

80 PLUS certification is an indication of PSU efficiency.

at room temperature and based on the honor system of parts not being changed, a golden unit not used for testing and/or that brand piggybacking on a different brands platform but same OEM

But it is important to note that better efficiency does NOT indicate a better, more reliable, or more stable supply. 80 PLUS does not, as example, indication anything about voltage tolerances and regulation (maintaining output within the allowed ±5% deviations). 80 PLUS also does not suggest better ripple suppression or hold-up times, among other specs.

all true

Should I go lower than 750w?

here the thing
PSU 1 is 750w at 30c and bronze rated
PSU 2 is 650w at 50c and gold rated

at 40c+ inside your gaming PC which unit can actually provide its total power and stay within spec? We don't know without a professional review but we do know one unit claims it can in a gaming PC and one unit claims it can on a test bench.

 

[8tyone]

I am in the market for 2 Power Supplies for 2 builds that I am busy with so I already looked at all the PSUs you had on your list.
The Deepcool is very cheap for a gold rated PSU. Not many reviews sadly so decided against it.

The only complete review I could find on the MSI 750W is on TH.

MSI MPG A750GF Power Supply Review

MSI did a far better job than Gigabyte in its PSU products, but is this enough?

www.tomshardware.com

Many of the people replying in this thread are not aware of local pricing.
The price 5.6K on the MSi 750W GOLD is actually lower than the MSi 650W Gold 5.9K for some reason on the same website.

Once the Monsoon sale is over you won't get that PSU for that price again. Its usually north of 7K at all other retailers.

So its basically the cheapest 750W Gold on the market with a decent review.

That review doesn't look good. The xpg pylon got high praise from techpowerup, also the antec hcg bronze has some better reviews. Which one woul you choose?

@dirtyferret
Mr. dirtyferret, the comment that I made earlier: "Teach me master!", was not directed as an insult or you know in a bad way, just saying and making it clear.

 

[The King]

I would take Gold over Bronze anyday. From the list that you gave the Msi 750W GOLD is what i would go with for the price.
It still has far better efficiency than any of the bronze rated PSU on your list.

It also has a good cybenetics rating.

https://www.cybenetics.com/d/cybenetics_cwa.pdf

 

[dirtyferret]

That review doesn't look good. The xpg pylon got high praise from techpowerup, also the antec hcg bronze has some better reviews. Which one woul you choose?

@dirtyferret
Mr. dirtyferret, the comment that I made earlier: "Teach me master!", was not directed as an insult or you know in a bad way, just saying and making it clear.

The old Antec HCG was made by seasonic, not sure about the "SMS" version but I know Antec cut the warranty in half so like I said above I would take the MSI known over the Antec unknown.

Now with the XPG core reactor and MSI MPG are both made by CWT but the XPG has the better platform, better review from Aris, and meets your power needs. At most you will probably load at 475w, so a quality 650w can handle the rig. That is called a no brainer in my book.

 

[80-watt Hamster]

Are telling me to stick with my current psu Corsair VS600?
Edit I mean would that be ok too?
The xpg pylon techpowerup review looks good, is cheap within my budget, warranty is low. Pylon vs Antec HCG Bronze vs Msi MPG A750GF, which one would you rather have?

The old Antec HCG was made by seasonic, not sure about the "SMS" version but I know Antec cut the warranty in half so like I said above I would take the MSI known over the Antec unknown.

Now with the XPG core reactor and MSI MPG are both made by CWT but the XPG has the better platform, better review from Aris, and meets your power needs. At most you will probably load at 475w, so a quality 650w can handle the rig. That is called a no brainer in my book.

dirtyferret took the words right out of my mouth. XPG.

 

[Assimilator]

There are only 3 real options in my book (although all of those options are shit TBH, none of the big-name brands are there):

* Antec HCG 750W Bronze
* MSI MPG 750W Gold
* XPG Pylon 750W Bronze

The Antec I cannot find any reviews for so that's out the window. As such I would agree with @dirtyferret , the XPG PYLON 750W 80+ BRONZE is probably the one to go for. While it is "only" bronze it is a known good platform, whereas there are questions around the MSI MPG's quality.

Just remember that the PSU is the most important part of your system. NEVER cheap out on it because it can kill everything else. That's why you avoid shit brands like DeepCool.

 

[dirtyferret]

, the XPG PYLON 750W 80+ BRONZE is probably the one to go for.

FYI, I was recommending the XPG reactor 650w gold that king linked above from their next tier up line

 

[Bill_Bright]

at room temperature

23°C actually which is significant even if NOT a real representation of the inside of typical computer case. But the point is, it is significant that it is specific because it still puts all the players on a level playing field - at least in that regards.