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I need a little help with compatibility. DDR4 RAM speed.

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Hello all.

I'm currently with 16GB (2x8) of DDR4 3000mhz CL15 and I'm gonna upgrade it to 32GB. My CPU is a ryzen R5 3600.

My current options on my budget are 2x16 3200mhz CL16 and 2x16 3600mhz CL16, both by corsair.

My MOBO is the MSI B450 Gaming Plus (not the MAX version), and in their website it says:
  • Supports 1866/ 2133/ 2400/ 2667Mhz (by JEDEC)
  • 2667/ 2800/ 2933/ 3000/ 3066/ 3200/ 3466 MHz (by A-XMP OC MODE)
I did my googling and you find some mixed info. Some saying yes it will most likely be able to run the 3600mhz on XMP, others say it will not pass the 3466mhz listed.

I'm talking about using the XMP strictly, not doing any manual type of OC.

In your experience, does it go to 3600 on XMP even if the MOBO doesn't say so?

The 3200mhz is a sure thing.
You think it's worth the shot trying the 3600mhz? Would the difference be noticeable? I manly use the pc for gaming, but the real reason I'm upgrading to 32gb is because my adobe lightroom is maxing out my 16GBs when I have something else running on my PC as I use it, like chrome or whatever.

Thanks in advance for your time.
 
Budget B450 running DDR3-3600 is a bit high. I think the high end X470 at the time struggled with 4000+.

Memory is fuzzy in this subject, maybe someone else can give a better answer.
 
Hello all.

I'm currently with 16GB (2x8) of DDR4 3000mhz CL15 and I'm gonna upgrade it to 32GB. My CPU is a ryzen R5 3600.

My current options on my budget are 2x16 3200mhz CL16 and 2x16 3600mhz CL16, both by corsair.

My MOBO is the MSI B450 Gaming Plus (not the MAX version), and in their website it says:
  • Supports 1866/ 2133/ 2400/ 2667Mhz (by JEDEC)
  • 2667/ 2800/ 2933/ 3000/ 3066/ 3200/ 3466 MHz (by A-XMP OC MODE)
I did my googling and you find some mixed info. Some saying yes it will most likely be able to run the 3600mhz on XMP, others say it will not pass the 3466mhz listed.

I'm talking about using the XMP strictly, not doing any manual type of OC.

In your experience, does it go to 3600 on XMP even if the MOBO doesn't say so?

The 3200mhz is a sure thing.
You think it's worth the shot trying the 3600mhz? Would the difference be noticeable? I manly use the pc for gaming, but the real reason I'm upgrading to 32gb is because my adobe lightroom is maxing out my 16GBs when I have something else running on my PC as I use it, like chrome or whatever.

Thanks in advance for your time.
why not going adding some extra 2*8? OLD STUFF by time, anyway :)
if you have "real deal" for yours 2*8, then go 3200 way. even if you later put "your all magic" "X3D" BS, it won't be as good as DDR5. So, my opinion DDR4 isn't worth anything EXTRA same as AM4 these days. :)
 
I have an asu prime b450m-A II and corsair vengeance 3600MT/s CL 18 Ram and that’s worked flawlessly with the Ryzen 5 5600x, which doesn’t even officially support 3600MT/s

Previously i used the ryzen 5 3600 and if my memory serves me right that also worked at full speed
 
I can also contribute with my last upgrade.

My MoBo is ASUS B350M-A PRIME - this is a PCIe 3.0 board originally made for Zen1/Zen1+... 2017 old:)

Before ugrade I had Ryzen 1600x with 2x8 GB of 2166 MHz DDR4 on board
My upgrade this year was Ryzen 5700x and 2x16 GB of 3200 MHz DDR4 CL16 from GSkill (175 € was all I was willing to spend)

I flashed the BIOS to latest agesa (straight from original bios) and checked the ASUS QVL for RAM on support website and there was practically no 2x16GB CL16 3200MHz RAM supported since this speed was not nearly available when MB was being sold. What I did find was a few 2x8GB kits suported at the time with similar speed and latency, so I decided to go for it anyway, since 2x16GB shuldn't make much differenc and it really didn't.

If I went for AM5, only the board would cost me as much as both CPU/RAM I bought. No way... and I would probalby have to reinstall Windows also since its OEM.

I think B450 boards should handle 3600 MHz just fine and the way the prices are, adding another 2x8GB (and get 4x8GB) makes no sense, since most MBs don't work full speed with 4 sticks of RAM and 2x16GB costs only a fraction more than 2x8GB.

+if you buy from a reputable store, you should not have any problems returning/changing the RAM if any comaptibility issues arise.
 
I can also contribute with my last upgrade.

My MoBo is ASUS B350M-A PRIME - this is a PCIe 3.0 board originally made for Zen1/Zen1+... 2017 old:)

Before ugrade I had Ryzen 1600x with 2x8 GB of 2166 MHz DDR4 on board
My upgrade this year was Ryzen 5700x and 2x16 GB of 3200 MHz DDR4 CL16 from GSkill (175 € was all I was willing to spend)

I flashed the BIOS to latest agesa (straight from original bios) and checked the ASUS QVL for RAM on support website and there was practically no 2x16GB CL16 3200MHz RAM supported since this speed was not nearly available when MB was being sold. What I did find was a few 2x8GB kits suported at the time with similar speed and latency, so I decided to go for it anyway, since 2x16GB shuldn't make much differenc and it really didn't.

If I went for AM5, only the board would cost me as much as both CPU/RAM I bought. No way... and I would probalby have to reinstall Windows also since its OEM.

I think B450 boards should handle 3600 MHz just fine and the way the prices are, adding another 2x8GB (and get 4x8GB) makes no sense, since most MBs don't work full speed with 4 sticks of RAM and 2x16GB costs only a fraction more than 2x8GB.

+if you buy from a reputable store, you should not have any problems returning/changing the RAM if any comaptibility issues arise.
the question is:
why buying 2*16 3200, when user has 2*8 3000. 3000 and 3200, is same as 3200 and 3600 for these old cpus, anyway... any "super tweaking" DO REQUIRE high-end mobo, good cpu and "lucky ram" too.
just don't believe these random "vasya guys" from YT showing "wow I can turn ya green 2133 to 3200 no need to pay more stupid idiots". It just doesn't work.:) They could test lots of ram, choose one random (which you hardly find in your location too) which OC well, and show it for CONTENT.

And "OEM" windows doesn't matter, it's just better to reinstall to get rid of potential bloatware like "customer supports", "free" trial AV-s and other BS they install with windows.

2x16 vs 2x8 DO MATTER in many ways: 1st, 32 GB is WAY BETTER than 16 GB these days (and already like 7 years back lol). 2nd, ram could be "single rank" and "dual rank". "newer" ram could be "single rank" in 2x16 gb variant. back days, it was more common to have "dual rank" 2x16 gb sticks. ;) and, "dual rank" 2 sticks could mean "4 sticks single rank" - which is crap for bad CPU IMC and/or cheapo mobo. ;)
 
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