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In short, 13600K scrapped 7700X and 7600X a month after their release. Uhh this must hurt AMD...
System Name | Primary|Secondary|Poweredge r410|Dell XPS|SteamDeck |
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Processor | i7 11700k|i7 9700k|2 x E5620 |i5 5500U|Zen 2 4c/8t |
Memory | 32GB DDR4|16GB DDR4|16GB DDR4|32GB ECC DDR3|8GB DDR4|16GB LPDDR5 |
Video Card(s) | RX 7800xt|RX 6700xt |On-Board|On-Board|8 RDNA 2 CUs |
Storage | 2TB m.2|512GB SSD+1TB SSD|2x256GBSSD 2x2TBGB|256GB sata|512GB nvme |
Display(s) | 50" 4k TV | Dell 27" |22" |3.3"|7" |
VR HMD | Samsung Odyssey+ | Oculus Quest 2 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro|Windows 10 Pro|Windows 10 Home| Server 2012 r2|Windows 10 Pro |
System Name | Hotbox |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 110/95/110, PBO +150Mhz, CO -7,-7,-20(x6), |
Motherboard | ASRock Phantom Gaming B550 ITX/ax |
Cooling | LOBO + Laing DDC 1T Plus PWM + Corsair XR5 280mm + 2x Arctic P14 |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill FlareX 3200c14 @3800c15 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Radeon 6900XT Liquid Devil Ultimate, UC@2250MHz max @~200W |
Storage | 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro |
Display(s) | Dell U2711 main, AOC 24P2C secondary |
Case | SSUPD Meshlicious |
Audio Device(s) | Optoma Nuforce μDAC 3 |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G603 |
Keyboard | Keychron K3/Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro M w/DSA profile caps |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
... And what about the other 36 CPUs? Or do you just want 13600K+4090 results with no comparisons?very funny put in the 4090 update drivers
Fixed, thanks!
Running last tests at 5.6
Just to add to that, you can run Raptor Lake with an old BIOS just fine, I tried (before BIOS updates were available). So you don't need a loaner CPU
Performance is respectable the efficiency is unreasonable especially power unlimited Intel chased benchmark scores too much and threw efficiency out the window. Mixed feelings on this CPU given the wattage. I'd like to see how it behaves with power limits and undervolting and maybe tinkering with multipliers on each core type. I get the impression the P cores were pushed too aggressively on boosts while E cores could have had a little more manual scaling balancing between base and boost frequencies. It's still impressive that it pretty much beats not just the 12700K, but also the 12900K. The power draw is however very foolish and disheartening. If it wasn't for the poor power consumption I'd say Intel really did great, but I can't overlook that big of a difference in wattage at idle and max power.
... And what about the other 36 CPUs? Or do you just want 13600K+4090 results with no compdo you
OK! go check how many processors were there in the original review GO CHECK work done... And what about the other 36 CPUs? Or do you just want 13600K+4090 results with no comparisons?
Incorrect. Zen 4 in gaming does not hit top temperatures. Just look at very demanding Cyberpunk.better than getting less fps with 95 celsius on a zen4 chip.
I don't understand why all of you keep hating on this cpu. Seriously, 90% of people buying this cpu are buying it for gaming. In gaming at stock it run at what 71 celsius on average based on the review with a weak heatsink (noctua u14), with a 280mm AIO which is common these days for your average gamer, this will be a 60 celsius gaming cpu. and wattage is average at stock, it's really only when its overclocked its quite bad imo.
better than getting less fps with 95 celsius on a zen4 chip.
System Name | Who tf is playing megalovania over the mic? |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5700x |
Motherboard | ASUS ROG STRIX X570-E GAMING |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12S REDUX |
Memory | 32Gb Corsair vengeance LPX 3200MHz CL16 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 2070S GAMING X |
Storage | Samsung 980 PRO 2TB |
Display(s) | ASUS TUF Gaming VG27AQ |
Case | NZXT H710 |
Audio Device(s) | Logitech G PRO |
Power Supply | Seasonic PRIME Ultra 650 platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G604 / G pro wireless (modded) |
Keyboard | Corsair K70 RGB MK.2 (cherry MX silent) (tape/foam mod) |
Benchmark Scores | The hell is a benchmark? |
better than getting less fps with 95 celsius on a zen4 chip.
based on the review with a weak heatsink (noctua u14)
System Name | Office / HP Prodesk 490 G3 MT (ex-office) |
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Processor | Intel 13700 (90° limit) / Intel i7-6700 |
Motherboard | Asus TUF Gaming H770 Pro / HP 805F H170 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S / Stock |
Memory | G. Skill Trident XMP 2x16gb DDR5 6400MHz cl32 / Samsung 2x8gb 2133MHz DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 3060 Ti Dual OC GDDR6X / Zotac GTX 1650 GDDR6 OC |
Storage | Samsung 2tb 980 PRO MZ / Samsung SSD 1TB 860 EVO + WD blue HDD 1TB (WD10EZEX) |
Display(s) | Eizo FlexScan EV2455 - 1920x1200 / Panasonic TX-32LS490E 32'' LED 1920x1080 |
Case | Nanoxia Deep Silence 8 Pro / HP microtower |
Audio Device(s) | On board |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime PX750 / OEM 300W bronze |
Mouse | MS cheap wired / Logitech cheap wired m90 |
Keyboard | MS cheap wired / HP cheap wired |
Software | W11 / W7 Pro ->10 Pro |
What power draw? It is higher than 7700x, but still very reasonable. It seems OC even on Intel is almost only for fun, the boost algorithms took over...Watch that power draw.
Nope, nopity NOPE.
What a clown world we live in.
I am so glad I upgraded to my current system, I was worried that I would be done in by both this generation from Intel and AMD's, but this platform will last a good while yet and I have options to make my power draw even more friendly while keeping my performance and temps in check.
System Name | Hotbox |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X, 110/95/110, PBO +150Mhz, CO -7,-7,-20(x6), |
Motherboard | ASRock Phantom Gaming B550 ITX/ax |
Cooling | LOBO + Laing DDC 1T Plus PWM + Corsair XR5 280mm + 2x Arctic P14 |
Memory | 32GB G.Skill FlareX 3200c14 @3800c15 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Radeon 6900XT Liquid Devil Ultimate, UC@2250MHz max @~200W |
Storage | 2TB Adata SX8200 Pro |
Display(s) | Dell U2711 main, AOC 24P2C secondary |
Case | SSUPD Meshlicious |
Audio Device(s) | Optoma Nuforce μDAC 3 |
Power Supply | Corsair SF750 Platinum |
Mouse | Logitech G603 |
Keyboard | Keychron K3/Cooler Master MasterKeys Pro M w/DSA profile caps |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
... I did. In the gaming tests there are 37 CPUs. Or are you asking for a 4090 review with this CPU? 'Cause that's an entirely different thing - but you'd once again be left without comparisons, unless you want to re-test every relevant GPU on that new test platform, which is again hours and hours and hours of work. Swapping GPUs is easier and quicker than swapping CPUs, but it's still a big job.OK! go check how many processors were there in the original review GO CHECK work done
System Name | I don't name my systems. |
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Processor | i5-12600KF 'stock power limits/-115mV undervolt+contact frame' |
Motherboard | Asus Prime B660-PLUS D4 |
Cooling | ID-Cooling SE 224 XT ARGB V3 'CPU', 4x Be Quiet! Light Wings + 2x Arctic P12 black case fans. |
Memory | 4x8GB G.SKILL Ripjaws V DDR4 3200MHz |
Video Card(s) | Asus TuF V2 RTX 3060 Ti @1920 MHz Core/@950mV Undervolt |
Storage | 4 TB WD Red, 1 TB Silicon Power A55 Sata, 1 TB Kingston A2000 NVMe, 256 GB Adata Spectrix s40g NVMe |
Display(s) | 29" 2560x1080 75 Hz / LG 29WK600-W |
Case | Be Quiet! Pure Base 500 FX Black |
Audio Device(s) | Onboard + Hama uRage SoundZ 900+USB DAC |
Power Supply | Seasonic CORE GM 500W 80+ Gold |
Mouse | Canyon Puncher GM-20 |
Keyboard | SPC Gear GK630K Tournament 'Kailh Brown' |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Let’s see what the 13400 cpu can do if the 13600k can be this powerful
System Name | Office / HP Prodesk 490 G3 MT (ex-office) |
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Processor | Intel 13700 (90° limit) / Intel i7-6700 |
Motherboard | Asus TUF Gaming H770 Pro / HP 805F H170 |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U14S / Stock |
Memory | G. Skill Trident XMP 2x16gb DDR5 6400MHz cl32 / Samsung 2x8gb 2133MHz DDR4 |
Video Card(s) | Asus RTX 3060 Ti Dual OC GDDR6X / Zotac GTX 1650 GDDR6 OC |
Storage | Samsung 2tb 980 PRO MZ / Samsung SSD 1TB 860 EVO + WD blue HDD 1TB (WD10EZEX) |
Display(s) | Eizo FlexScan EV2455 - 1920x1200 / Panasonic TX-32LS490E 32'' LED 1920x1080 |
Case | Nanoxia Deep Silence 8 Pro / HP microtower |
Audio Device(s) | On board |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime PX750 / OEM 300W bronze |
Mouse | MS cheap wired / Logitech cheap wired m90 |
Keyboard | MS cheap wired / HP cheap wired |
Software | W11 / W7 Pro ->10 Pro |
The one is virtualization, like @W1zzard said. Maybe cryptography too, both AES and SHA3, page 14.Can someone explain to me what
in the negative side of the review is talking about? I read 90% of the review, but did not come across this being talked about directly, anything I need to worry about as a casual gamer who just bought a 13600k?
- Some workloads get scheduled onto wrong cores
I don't understand why all of you keep hating on this cpu. Seriously, 90% of people buying this cpu are buying it for gaming. In gaming at stock it run at what 71 celsius on average based on the review with a weak heatsink (noctua u14), with a 280mm AIO which is common these days for your average gamer, this will be a 60 celsius gaming cpu. and wattage is average at stock, it's really only when its overclocked its quite bad imo.
better than getting less fps with 95 celsius on a zen4 chip.
I think W1zzard gave a good explanation at the end of the article about PCIe scaling for the RTX 4090; answering your question in short, it's true for any SSD, as long as you use that m2 slot with PCIe Gen 5 lanes coming from the CPU, but as it's been explained above by ncrs this feature hasn't been implemented in every motherboard to begin with.Please help me understand the m.2 SSD situation, from what I understand installing an m.2 SSD will cripple the GPU which seems ridiculous. Is it only true for Gen5 SSDs or any PCIe drive has this effect? Say I install my 660p (gen3) in the m.2 slot alongside the 3080 (gen4), would it still castrate the GPU or is it only a problem of mixing with gen5 GPUs ang gen5 SSDs?
If there's a simple answer in the review, I must have missed it - if that's the case I'd be much obliged for pointing me to the right place.
System Name | Office |
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Processor | Ryzen 5600G |
Motherboard | ASUS B450M-A II |
Cooling | be quiet! Shadow Rock LP |
Memory | 16GB Patriot Viper Steel DDR4-3200 |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte RX 5600 XT |
Storage | PNY CS1030 250GB, Crucial MX500 2TB |
Display(s) | Dell S2719DGF |
Case | Fractal Define 7 Compact |
Power Supply | EVGA 550 G3 |
Mouse | Logitech M705 Marthon |
Keyboard | Logitech G410 |
Software | Windows 10 Pro 22H2 |
with a 280mm AIO which is common these days for your average gamer,
System Name | Legion |
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Processor | i7-12700KF |
Motherboard | Asus Z690-Plus TUF Gaming WiFi D5 |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 240mm AIO |
Memory | PNY MAKO DDR5-6000 C36-36-36-76 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Hellhound 6700 XT 12GB |
Storage | WD SN770 512GB m.2, Samsung 980 Pro m.2 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer K272HUL 1440p / 34" MSI MAG341CQ 3440x1440 |
Case | Montech Air X |
Power Supply | Corsair CX750M |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 25 |
Keyboard | Logitech MX Keys |
Software | Lots |
A coupla tings. First, the NH-U14s isn't really a weak heat sink, second, the 7600x and 7700x run a smidge cooler than the 13600k while gaming, and lastly there's a 5% performance difference between all three. They're all good choices. It's all good my brudda. Enjoy the '600k.
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PS - Don't let the naysayers bring you down. No matter what you buy, somebody's going to call you an idiot for doing it. (Alder Lake & Zen 4 owner here) F 'em.
System Name | AlderLake |
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Processor | Intel i7 12700K P-Cores @ 5Ghz |
Motherboard | Gigabyte Z690 Aorus Master |
Cooling | Noctua NH-U12A 2 fans + Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut Extreme + 5 case fans |
Memory | 32GB DDR5 Corsair Dominator Platinum RGB 6000MT/s CL36 |
Video Card(s) | MSI RTX 2070 Super Gaming X Trio |
Storage | Samsung 980 Pro 1TB + 970 Evo 500GB + 850 Pro 512GB + 860 Evo 1TB x2 |
Display(s) | 23.8" Dell S2417DG 165Hz G-Sync 1440p |
Case | Be quiet! Silent Base 600 - Window |
Audio Device(s) | Panasonic SA-PMX94 / Realtek onboard + B&O speaker system / Harman Kardon Go + Play / Logitech G533 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus Plus Gold 750W |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 2 Laser wireless |
Keyboard | RAPOO E9270P Black 5GHz wireless |
Software | Windows 11 |
Benchmark Scores | Cinebench R23 (Single Core) 1936 @ stock Cinebench R23 (Multi Core) 23006 @ stock |
Does anyone know if I disable ecores, will it improve temps in gaming?
This is what I get when playing GTA V, core 8,9,10 and 11 are the E-Cores, they only get up to 43 degrees.
Max temp on core 7, just 55 degrees... This is with 21.5C ambient temp. Ofcourse with these temps there is no need to disable the E-Cores...
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The E-cores in the taskmanager from bottom right to left.
System Name | Legion |
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Processor | i7-12700KF |
Motherboard | Asus Z690-Plus TUF Gaming WiFi D5 |
Cooling | Arctic Liquid Freezer 2 240mm AIO |
Memory | PNY MAKO DDR5-6000 C36-36-36-76 |
Video Card(s) | PowerColor Hellhound 6700 XT 12GB |
Storage | WD SN770 512GB m.2, Samsung 980 Pro m.2 2TB |
Display(s) | Acer K272HUL 1440p / 34" MSI MAG341CQ 3440x1440 |
Case | Montech Air X |
Power Supply | Corsair CX750M |
Mouse | Logitech MX Anywhere 25 |
Keyboard | Logitech MX Keys |
Software | Lots |
I'm not convinced this is true.