Is it just my imagination or do NVMe drives feel snappier overall with Intel CPU vs AMD cpu?

[Space Lynx]

I not only noticed this going from raptor lake to AM5, with the same NVMe drive, but also with an old Gen3 NVMe drive I had on my Intel laptop - going to an AM4 desktop.

It's hard to tell, both are fast, but I swear the Intel systems just "feel snappier" I don't know how to explain it. File Explorer, a web browser, Steam chat tabs, it doesn't matter what it is, I think I can tell a difference.

Just me or placebo kicking my ass?

 

[P4-630]

Using windows XP?

 

[Space Lynx]

Using windows XP?

Win 11 and Win 10.

Edit: Also, crystal diskmark does back up my claims. 4k reads are higher on the Intel system. still, I am unsure.

 

[freeagent]

I haven't tried it on Intel, but on my AMD's it is snappy af

 

[evernessince]

Tom's hardware and HWUB both tested storage performance on AMD and Intel

Platform Storage Face-Off: AMD Upsets Intel

We put AMD and Intel systems head-to-head to find out which platform provides the top performance with storage devices.

www.tomshardware.com

At the end of the day there isn't a huge difference between the two. Ultimately CPU performance is far more influential than platform (assuming you are comparing like PCIe version storage devices).

My own experience switching from Intel to AMD concurs with that conclusion. Used to have a 5820K before I hopped on AM4.

Win 11 and Win 10.

Edit: Also, crystal diskmark does back up my claims. 4k reads are higher on the Intel system. still, I am unsure.

That is odd, AMD tends to win in 4K reads. Check the Tom's Hardware review.

 

[Space Lynx]

Well, I guess it is just placebo then. Weird

 

[tabascosauz]

Well, I guess it is just placebo then. Weird

Clean install on both?

 

[Space Lynx]

Clean install on both?

yeah I always do clean installs.

 

[Vario]

"snappy" always feels like a subjective/worthless metric.

 

[Space Lynx]

"snappy" always feels like a subjective/worthless metric.

I will click file explorer, drag it 8-10 inches, resize it, click on steam, click on a web browser, go back and forth between all of it, and AMD is still seriously fast, but I just feel like the Intel system shows me what I want to see faster.

faster isn't the right word though, cause it is so small a difference it probably is just placebo, it just "feels snappier" i don't know how else to explain it. lol

 

[Vario]

I will click file explorer, drag it 8-10 inches, resize it, click on steam, click on a web browser, go back and forth between all of it, and AMD is still seriously fast, but I just feel like the Intel system shows me what I want to see faster.

faster isn't the right word though, cause it is so small a difference it probably is just placebo, it just "feels snappier" i don't know how else to explain it. lol

Yeah I know what you are saying, and I've felt such things before from even minute hardware or windows setting changes, but it is nearly impossible to quantify, and I've seen it used for various bizzaro fanboy justifications (not accusing you of this).

If you are seeing that 4k reads are higher on the Intel system, then maybe it is faster for you.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Using windows XP?

XD!

"feel snappier" I don't know how to explain it. File Explorer, a web browser, Steam chat tabs, it doesn't matter what it is, I think I can tell a difference.

Reminds me of when I switched on XMP with Ryzen.

 

[Deleted member 223428]

The things you mention being 'snappier' seem more like CPU performance rather than disk I/O.

Raptor Lake/Raphael seem pretty close depending on models though.

Everything with your CPU/RAM running at the recommended settings?

 

[thewan]

Thats just intel systems in general combined with Windows and other apps. The majority market share of Intel does many things, optimization of both hardware and software and firmware to work really well with each other. Intel systems have always felt snappier to use, regardless if the AMD CPU of the time surpasses it or not. RAW power is nothing without optimizations.

 

[Space Lynx]

Thats just intel systems in general combined with Windows and other apps. The majority market share of Intel does many things, optimization of both hardware and software and firmware to work really well with each other. Intel systems have always felt snappier to use, regardless if the AMD CPU of the time surpasses it or not. RAW power is nothing without optimizations.

Well it is nice to know its not just me at least.

The things you mention being 'snappier' seem more like CPU performance rather than disk I/O.

Raptor Lake/Raphael seem pretty close depending on models though.

Everything with your CPU/RAM running at the recommended settings?

yeah I always enable XMP at the very least. and scores on 3dmark/cinebench r23 always look normal compared to reviews.

 

[freeagent]

Well Zen 3 is already a couple of years old now, I would hope newer hardware is faster

 

[AsRock]

I will click file explorer, drag it 8-10 inches, resize it, click on steam, click on a web browser, go back and forth between all of it, and AMD is still seriously fast, but I just feel like the Intel system shows me what I want to see faster.

faster isn't the right word though, cause it is so small a difference it probably is just placebo, it just "feels snappier" i don't know how else to explain it. lol

Jayztwocent's said this a while back, although i cannot find the video and not 100% if it was said in the title.

 

[evernessince]

Jayztwocent's said this a while back, although i cannot find the video and not 100% if it was said in the title.

Jayz says a lot of things based on an assumption that turn out to be false.

He's closer to an influencer than a reviewer.

 

[Psychoholic]

I cant tell the difference in responsiveness or "snappiness" between my 7950X and 12900K systems, if anything sometimes my AM5 system feels a bit faster but you're really splitting hairs at that point.

I do remember my 12900K system feeling snappier than my 3900x system though.

 

[GerKNG]

not a big difference but my 7950x system feels like a two year old windows installation on a fast ssd compared to my 13700k.

 

[Psychoholic]

It's also worth mentioning some of that snappiness feeling comes from refresh rate of your display, it makes a big difference even on the desktop imo.

 

[eidairaman1]

"snappy" always feels like a subjective/worthless metric.

Yup because the MX500 im using on the Ry7 5800 boots in less than 10 seconds

 

[LabRat 891]

I will click file explorer, drag it 8-10 inches, resize it, click on steam, click on a web browser, go back and forth between all of it, and AMD is still seriously fast, but I just feel like the Intel system shows me what I want to see faster.

faster isn't the right word though, cause it is so small a difference it probably is just placebo, it just "feels snappier" i don't know how else to explain it. lol

Might be worth investigating your system latency on the two machines.

Resplendence Software - LatencyMon: suitability checker for real-time audio and other tasks

LatencyMon: suitability checker for real-time audio and other tasks

www.resplendence.com

The *stooopidest* things can cause extra latency; stuff like a particular driver, service, etc. (ACPI devices have been my most commonly seen cause. Namely, laptop batteries)
IIRC, it'd been proven that even Rootkit/Always-on DRM can 'glitch out' and cause seriously excessive sys latency.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

Jayztwocent's said this a while back, although i cannot find the video and not 100% if it was said in the title.

In one of the Ryzen 7000 series reviews he said that this is the first time a Ryzen felt snappy for him. IDK which one though, I don't generally watch him.

 

[LabRat 891]

In one of the Ryzen 7000 series reviews he said that this is the first time a Ryzen felt snappy for him. IDK which one though, I don't generally watch him.

Me neither, but:
I will say that a 'well-tuned' (PBO, at most tho) Ryzen (3000 and 5000 both), "feels snappier" than the out-of-box experience.
IIRC, amongst AM5's 'selling points' was "AI/MI/Intelligent CPU and RAM tuning". Assuming 'AMD delivered', I could see a YouTuber like JayZ being "correct" here.

Adding to this (in a retro-grade sense), myself and a longtime friend of mine both notice the K8(0Fh)-platforms "feel snappier" the higher the NB/HTlink OC one can stabilize. IIRC, AIDA64 memory testing showed more bandwidth and less latency; minimal, but repeatable and across all scores.
Fun Fact: Zen-onwards' Infinity Fabric (IF) is a 'superset' of K8(0Fh)'s HyperTransport'.