Is it possible to change a memory and a gpu welded on the motherboard?

[Doffy]

Asus made the marvellous work of weld the CPU, RAM, AND GPU. In order not to give money to greedy "people" like ASUS CEOs, is there any way to upgrade these components? (I don't know how to weld, but I learn quickly)

 

[Hyderz]

I think weld is the wrong word here, maybe soldered is the correct term. There is a way to upgrade these parts but you need to do thorough research on compatible parts and also make adjustments to the bios, I believe you need to modify

then there are more problems after say you successfully soldered the components, you have to do driver updates, not to mention the cooling capability might not be enough to cool your new parts … in my opinion it’s not worth the hassle but it will be a great learning opportunity for parts and also soldering

 

[thesmokingman]

This is an example of when if you have to ask... its not for you.

 

[OCMunkee]

It is technically possible to change/upgrade VRAM, if you're VERY experienced. But it won't necessarily work (AT ALL), and if it even boots it will certainly not be simple/easy.

 

[joemama]

Since it's very complicated, I would say just no.

 

[Doffy]

Thanks guys, I was about to do shit on my study laptop. (I'm new here so I don't know how to tag you, sorry )

 

[OCMunkee]

Thanks guys, I was about to do shit on my study laptop. (I'm new here so I don't know how to tag you, sorry )

Rule #1 - never mess with your primary work/study/browsing machine

Once you've got a second machine you can 'afford' to completely destroy/lose then you can think about hardware mods. Until then, thar be dragons

 

[faye]

Thanks guys, I was about to do shit on my study laptop. (I'm new here so I don't know how to tag you, sorry )

Like others have said, yes, it's technically possible, but you would need highly specialized tools (and training or help to use them), a lot of research, and even more luck.

The biggest thing would be a hot air reflow station, which would let you remove and replace components attached to the motherboard via BGA (ball grid array) like the CPU, GPU, and RAM. You'd also need solder masks for the chips you were looking to replace. There's a good chance a local cell phone repair shop would have this stuff, but there's no way to know if they'd be willing to let you use it or how much they would charge without asking.

Even before that, you'd have to source compatible bare chips in BGA packaging, which aren't usually available via consumer channels. That means unless you know someone who deals in them regularly you'd probably have to find another model of laptop with compatible (but better) chips to pull from. To save money - cause that's the whole point of this, right? - you'd probably look for dead boards and buy one or two hoping the chips are fine and something else failed on them, but this is risky since you probably won't be able to test them. There are ways to test bare BGA chips, but this equipment is even more expensive, rare, and difficult to use than the BGA reflow station.

Even if you pull the existing chip without incident (no guarantees) and get the new one on, the new chip has no flaws, and it's completely compatible with the rest of your hardware, you'll still need to get it working in software.

If you're super lucky (and realistically, did a lot of research and prep work first) it will be as simple as putting everything back together and turning it on. If you're not that lucky, you may have to pull and flash the laptop's BIOS with a later version made for it or something modified to allow support for wherever new chips you've added. This isn't a big deal if other laptops using the same motherboard use the new chips, but if they don't it may require a lot of hacking.

And finally, even after all that, even assuming everything works as it should in software and the new chips are recognized, if the TDP is higher on the new chips (they use more power and give off more heat - likely, for faster stuff) you may need additional cooling to get things stable and usable. That's not as big a deal in a desktop case - just pick up a bigger air cooler or AIO, they're cheap these days - but in a laptop may be more or less impossible.

That's why most people, even professional electronics recyclers with all the tools and skills to do it and access to better chips, don't bother. It's terrible that manufacturers solder components that could be socketed or have slots, especially on less expensive models, but that's the world we live in. A lot of this stuff, especially lower end consumer electronics like relatively inexpensive laptops, is designed to be disposable.

(No I don't know why I wrote so much. Enjoy, or ignore, I guess. )

 

[bonehead123]

Short answer: yes

Long answer: not really worth the effort/time/cost, since you are looking at some major investments of these 3 things, which doesn't really match up with your desire to "not send money to "greedy CEO's", cause your gonna have to pay somebody somewhere somehow anyways

 

[Wirko]

Short answer: yes

Long answer: not really worth the effort/time/cost, since you are looking at some major investments of these 3 things, which doesn't really match up with your desire to "not send money to "greedy CEO's", cause your gonna have to pay somebody somewhere somehow anyways

Come on, why can't you just write a simple and short advice. Let me try.

Short answer : yes

Long answer: no

 

[Doffy]

Como outros já disseram, sim, é técnico possível, mas você precisaria de ferramentas altamente especializadas (e treinamento ou ajuda para usá-las), muita pesquisa e ainda mais sorte.

O mais importante seria uma estação de refluxo de ar quente, que permitiria remover e substituir componentes conectados à placa-mãe via BGA (ball grid array), como CPU, GPU e RAM. Você também precisaria de máscaras de solda para os chips que deseja substituir. Há uma boa chance de que uma oficina local de conserto de celulares tenha esse material, mas não há como saber se eles estariam interessados para permitir que você o usasse ou quanto cobrariam sem perguntar.

Mesmo antes disso, você teria que adquirir chips simples compatíveis em embalagens BGA, que geralmente não estão disponíveis em canais de consumo. Isso significa que, a menos que você conheça alguém que negocia com eles regularmente, provavelmente encontrará outro modelo de laptop com chips compatíveis (mas os melhores). Para economizar dinheiro - porque esse é o objetivo, certo? - Você provavelmente procuraria placas mortas e compraria uma ou duas esperando que os chips permanecessem bons e algo mais falhasse neles, mas isso é arriscado, pois você provavelmente não será capaz de testá-los. Existem maneiras de testar chips BGA simples, mas esse equipamento é ainda mais caro, raro e difícil de usar do que a estação de refluxo BGA.

Mesmo que você retire o chip existente sem incidentes (sem garantias) e coloque o novo, o novo chip não tem falhas e é totalmente compatível com o resto do seu hardware, você ainda precisará fazê-lo funcionar sem software.

Se você tiver muita sorte (e, realisticamente, fez muita pesquisa e trabalho de preparação primeiro), será tão simples quanto juntar tudo novamente e ligá-lo. Se você não tiver esse tipo, pode ser necessário atualizar e atualizar o BIOS do laptop com uma versão posterior feita para ele ou algo modificado para permitir suporte para todos os novos chips que você adicionou. Isso não é grande coisa se outros laptops que usam a mesma placa-mãe usam os novos chips, mas se não o fizerem, pode ser necessário muitos hackers.

E finalmente, mesmo depois de tudo isso, mesmo assumindo que tudo funciona como deveria no software e os novos chips são reconhecidos, se o TDP para maior nos novos chips (eles usam mais energia e emitem mais calor - provavelmente, para coisas mais rápidas) você pode precisar de resfriamento adicional para manter as coisas úteis e utilizáveis. Isso não é tão importante em um gabinete de desktop – basta comprar um refrigerador de ar maior ou AIO, eles são baratos hoje em dia – mas em um laptop pode ser mais ou menos impossível.

É por isso que a maioria das pessoas, mesmo os recicladores profissionais de eletrônicos com todas as ferramentas e habilidades para fazer isso e acessar os melhores chips, não se preocupam. É terrível que os fabricantes vendam componentes que possam ser encaixados ou ter slots, especialmente em modelos mais baratos, mas esse é o mundo em que vivemos. Muitas dessas coisas, especialmente eletrônicos de consumo de baixo custo, como laptops relativamente baratos, são projetados para serem econômicos.

(Não, não sei por que escrevi tanto. Aproveite ou ignore, eu acho.)

Tanks for the tips, actually i gonna try to make a little test in a old DVD Player, and try to make a "Homemade console" in C