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Is there no way to prep windows 10 for a hardware change

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I want to swap something out for a friend, an upgrade, but in the past I have had issues re-activating Windows 10 after such a major hardware change.

Now I wonder, is there no way to tell windows 10 that a hardware change is coming up soon and that they can remove the license from the current hardware and then add it to the new hardware setup once the attempt is made to activate it?

I just want as little as possible problems after the swap....
 

pretty much as simple as that. I did this when i upgraded my whole system last year.

also, when i switched to SSD this year, i didnt have to do much, other than clone the original C drive.
 

pretty much as simple as that. I did this when i upgraded my whole system last year.

also, when i switched to SSD this year, i didnt have to do much, other than clone the original C drive.
^^THIS^^

It has become much simpler over the past 2 years or so...

I also switched out my main rig earlier this year for a more recent model, installed the boot drive & ram, and BOOM.... it booted right up and nottaproblemo...I didn't even have to reactivate....but after the swap was completed, I went to my M$ account and removed the old machine (which obviously has a different serial #) just to be safe :D
 
I had once to re-enter the key in windows after just a BIOS update.
 
Well I dont have a physical key, that got lost a long time ago, I think even upgrading from windows XP....

Anywho, yeah I know of the re-activating, my problem is that in the past I have encountered instances where it would not accept that and calls had to be made to had it get through or in my personal case I just got a new key.

and that I want to prevent, I want windows to know its going to get a hardware change and so remove the license from the current configuration so it can be put later on the new one.
 
After my last motherboard swap because bios chip was lead in like read mode only I was forced to re-activate Windows 11 but I had to sign into a Microsoft account which I do not have and do not want not even cmd or powershell could activate it was required phone activation which I could only get by signing in with a Microsoft account.

Microsoft needs to lay off their BS here and give us back the old way.

@ZoneDymo you can do a sys prep which is the correct way to prepare windows to go onto a new system.

But Windows 10 will properly ask you to re-activation windows afterwards.
 
It is important to understand which type of Windows license your friend has. If he has a full "Retail" license, then that license can legally be transferred to a new computer (or new motherboard) over and over again AS LONG AS all previous installations have been uninstalled.

HOWEVER, if the license is a OEM/System Builders License (the most commonly used), that license is inextricably tied to the "O"riginal "E"quipment and cannot legally be transferred to a new computer (or motherboard). All other hardware (drives, CPU, graphics card, RAM, PSU and case) can be swapped and the same license legally used. But a new motherboard constitutes a new computer and a new computer requires a new license.

See Reactivating Windows after a hardware change and note under “Fix common errors", it says (my bold underline added),
A Windows license is associated with your device hardware. If you make significant hardware changes, such as replacing your motherboard, Windows won’t be able to find a matching license the next time you start your device. If Windows was preinstalled on the device and you have made a change such as replacing the motherboard, you'll need a new license.

P.S. This is not my policy. I am only the messenger so please don't argue with me over this.
 
When I built my Z390 system I took my MBR formatted Windows 10 disk out of my 2009 Apple Mac Pro (X58) and put it in the Z390 system, which is my current specs. It never asked for me to reactivate!

If I can change that much hardware, literally everything, and not get a reactivate prompt, I don't why anyone would ever get a reactivate prompt lol

To clarify since I made such a huge change obviously stuff like the network card did not work right away, I had to download a couple individual drivers for a couple things onto a thumb drive and manually install them to get a fully working system. I was just trying to save time rather than starting from scratch with a fresh install. Had to start with the network card since I couldn't connect to Windows update to get said driver lol
 
It is important to understand which type of Windows license your friend has. If he has a full "Retail" license, then that license can legally be transferred to a new computer (or new motherboard) over and over again AS LONG AS all previous installations have been uninstalled.

HOWEVER, if the license is a OEM/System Builders License (the most commonly used), that license is inextricably tied to the "O"riginal "E"quipment and cannot legally be transferred to a new computer (or motherboard). All other hardware (drives, CPU, graphics card, RAM, PSU and case) can be swapped and the same license legally used. But a new motherboard constitutes a new computer and a new computer requires a new license.

See Reactivating Windows after a hardware change and note under “Fix common errors", it says (my bold underline added),


P.S. This is not my policy. I am only the messenger so please don't argue with me over this.

" AS LONG AS all previous installations have been uninstalled."

Well that is kinda my question, is there a way to tell windows that a hardware change is going to happen so they should remove the current configuration from their database.
 
Change the Hardware, boot your PC, try to activate it through the troubleshooting window.
if that doesn't work buy yourself a new key for 80 cents.
 
HOWEVER, if the license is a OEM/System Builders License (the most commonly used), that license is inextricably tied to the "O"riginal "E"quipment and cannot legally be transferred to a new computer (or motherboard). All other hardware (drives, CPU, graphics card, RAM, PSU and case) can be swapped and the same license legally used. But a new motherboard constitutes a new computer and a new computer requires a new license.


of my current win 10 install i did change mobo/CPU/PSU without a hitch and when i swapped my GPU no issues either.

(and all was dirty swap with a SSD cloning in the middle )

and it was an OEM Win 8.1 license initially ... so i wonder :laugh:
 
At least on older Windows, you'd use Sysprep for this (basically, for moving a drive w/ Winstall on it, to another system).
Nowadays, it seems sysprep is entirely meant as a tool to prepare an installed and in-use image for imaging multiple different systems.

On 10-onwards IIRC, you'll just need to re-activate windows; no sysprep required.
 
Well that is kinda my question, is there a way to tell windows that a hardware change is going to happen so they should remove the current configuration from their database.
Not that I know of. And "my guess" is there isn't a way because it is likely some unscrupulous bad guys, sadly, would abuse that. :(

It should not be a problem for you anyway. Note I was referring to removing Windows from other computers so the same license is not in use on two different computers at the same time. Worse case scenario would require you to call Microsoft, explain your situation, and they will give you another key. I have done this many times and never had a problem.

They just don't want you to use the same, single use license, on multiple computers at the same time.

of my current win 10 install i did change mobo/CPU/PSU without a hitch and when i swapped my GPU no issues either.
No doubt. But note I never said it cannot technically be done, or that it will cause issues.

I specifically said that license cannot "legally" be transferred to a new computer (or ***new/upgraded motherboard).

For an analogy, you can run a red light and most likely these days, get away with it. Or you can shoplift a candy bar and probably get away with it too. That does not make it legal - and that is the issue. Microsoft does not have the time or resources to "police" every one of the 1.6+ billion Windows licenses in use today.

So it is just a matter of personal ethics.

And that is why everyone needs to understand when we use a "new" Windows license for the first time, we agree to abide by the terms of the license. We consensually entered a legal contract. And that's what makes these terms "legally binding".

Is Microsoft going to chase us down and have us arrested? Of course not! Not unless we are pirating multiple copies for profit - that will likely get their, and the FBI's and/or Interpol's attention.

The problem is there may come a time, perhaps through some Windows Update, a purchase at the Microsoft Store or some other time when the system hits the Microsoft network and it is determined the Windows license key does not match the current "o"riginal "e"quipment it was assigned to. When that happens, Microsoft has been known to render that license "unauthorized". A simple phone call may fix it, or it may be necessary to buy a new, legitimate license.

*** I said above "new/upgraded motherboard". We are allowed to replace a motherboard as part of a repair action should the first motherboard fail. However, it needs to be the same brand and model number, or a suggested replacement by the same maker if the original board is no longer available. In other words, we cannot "upgrade" the board from, for example, an entry level board to a top tier board.

Again, if we attempt to transfer, it will probably work just fine. But that does not mean it is "right" or "contractually legal" to do so.

Again, I am just the messenger here. So please don't argue with me about it. Take it up with Microsoft (or their shysters... err... lawyers) if there is a disagreement. But note when it comes to OEM software in general, this is pretty much an industry standard policy. It is just when it comes to Windows, there are some unique differences simply because Windows is an operating system and not a simple application.
 
No doubt. But note I never said it cannot technically be done, or that it will cause issues.

I specifically said that license cannot "legally" be transferred to a new computer (or ***new/upgraded motherboard).

For an analogy, you can run a red light and most likely these days, get away with it. Or you can shoplift a candy bar and probably get away with it too. That does not make it legal - and that is the issue. Microsoft does not have the time or resources to "police" every one of the 1.6+ billion Windows licenses in use today.

So it is just a matter of personal ethics.

And that is why everyone needs to understand when we use a "new" Windows license for the first time, we agree to abide by the terms of the license. We consensually entered a legal contract. And that's what makes these terms "legally binding".

Is Microsoft going to chase us down and have us arrested? Of course not! Not unless we are pirating multiple copies for profit - that will likely get their, and the FBI's and/or Interpol's attention.

The problem is there may come a time, perhaps through some Windows Update, a purchase at the Microsoft Store or some other time when the system hits the Microsoft network and it is determined the Windows license key does not match the current "o"riginal "e"quipment it was assigned to. When that happens, Microsoft has been known to render that license "unauthorized". A simple phone call may fix it, or it may be necessary to buy a new, legitimate license.

*** I said above "new/upgraded motherboard". We are allowed to replace a motherboard as part of a repair action should the first motherboard fail. However, it needs to be the same brand and model number, or a suggested replacement by the same maker if the original board is no longer available. In other words, we cannot "upgrade" the board from, for example, an entry level board to a top tier board.

Again, if we attempt to transfer, it will probably work just fine. But that does not mean it is "right" or "contractually legal" to do so.

Again, I am just the messenger here. So please don't argue with me about it. Take it up with Microsoft (or their shysters... err... lawyers) if there is a disagreement. But note when it comes to OEM software in general, this is pretty much an industry standard policy. It is just when it comes to Windows, there are some unique differences simply because Windows is an operating system and not a simple application.
hmmmm, well i did buy the 8.1 license in a brick and mortar shop and it did goes on my computer when i had 7 on it, the shop was also in ilegality since it sold an OEM license without hardware if i am not mistaken ...

yet, i find hardly justifiable to "force" a paying customer to get a new license with each and every major hardware upgrade and/or eplacement, for it to be legal. (unless changing the whole computer and getting a prebuilt with Win include fc )

technically isn't the license is tied to the users email/microsoft account? or am i severly mistaken.

well if i was "honest" i would have paid more than what i paid for my mobo/psu/cpu/gpu/ram just in windows license these last 3 yrs since 2020 due to quite a bunch of hardware failure ... :laugh:
not that i am upset that they did not implement a killswitch , in case of a major hardware swap that would make the license unusable/not reactivable ... (which is why i did put, "force")

no worries i am not arguing with you ;)


and indeed it should not work
"When installing Windows 10, the digital license associates itself with your device's hardware. If you make significant hardware changes on your device, such as replacing your motherboard, Windows will no longer find a license that matches your device, and you’ll need to reactivate Windows to get it up and running."

but it did work every time i did (and 2 time using the phone service just like with XP back in the days and it was not the automated system for one of the 2 calls )


maybe it was a FPP (Full Packaged Product) and not an OEM, which iirc can be transfered, i need to check that :laugh:
 
the shop was also in ilegality since it sold an OEM license without hardware if i am not mistaken ...
Yeah. That happens a lot. What some do is buy a volume license (or left over licenses from a volume license) then sell the remainder. They are not supposed to do that but typically, it is too small an operation for Microsoft to deal with. Also, some country's laws are vague on that.

All I can say is UN and EU members "are supposed to" honor each other member's IP (intellectual property) and copyright laws.

yet, i find hardly justifiable to "force" a paying customer to get a new license with each and every major hardware upgrade and/or eplacement, for it to be legal. (unless changing the whole computer and getting a prebuilt with Win include fc )
Well, that is the excuse some use to justify, what is in effect, stealing.

If the customer wanted the option to transfer the license to a new computer, they had the option to buy a full Retail license. Those you can transfer over and over again. Retail licenses are more expensive, in part, because they are transferable.

And as far as hardware upgrades, it ONLY applies to the motherboard. You can swap RAM, drives, graphics card, CPU, and case and don't need a new license. Only when upgrading the motherboard does this apply.

technically isn't the license is tied to the users email/microsoft account? or am i severly mistaken.
No. Again, OEM stands for original "e"quipment. In fact, with factory made computes, the key is firmware coded to the motherboard in the UEFI BIOS. There is a link to the Microsoft account - but only if the user uses a Microsoft account. I for one, do not. I only use a Local Account on my systems.
 
well, then i understand

i think i have a FPP thus transferable ... (glad i can still re use, personally, something that i paid for ... specially at full price of 159chf :laugh: )

well usually modern PC/Laptop with OEM CoA don't have CD-Key on them

for the account also yes, i just noticed that i use a local account on my HTPC which run W8.1 (OEM CoA) atm, i mixed up "linking" and "tying"
 
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